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would the world be better off

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HorrificSensation Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012
without religion, you think?

I do.
Although then there wouldnt be any jokes about it everywhere. but still. would be better.
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CandanceAmy Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012
Well I really wonder what humans would have been like is they would have never wanted to ascent to divinity...
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CandanceAmy Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012
*ascend... not ascent. Or maybe they both work? I intended for ascend.
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maltese101 Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012  Student General Artist
It's better for me,
but I can't really say for others.
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viberunner Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
The world would not be better or worse off without religion... but unquestionably humanity would be better off without religion.

It would be nice for people to think for themselves rather than abdicate their moral, emotional, and intellectual development to bonkers racist magic desert manuals and/or weirdoes who think they're in telepathic communication with supreme forces.
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DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012
What difference do you think it will make?
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kaikaku Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't know what a world with no religion would actually entail. I think it could be better OR worse. Or better in some ways and worse in others. It seems very difficult to predict. It might ultimately depend on how the world became non-religious.

Some of this also depends on what you think counts as a religion. Are only highly organized, ritualized belief systems religion, or do vaguer things like animism and freeform spirituality count? I can't help but feel that a world with no religion might also have no humans, or only teeny-tiny human societies.
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tdroid Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012
Yes, even though we can't claim that it would fix all wrong. However, I think that we should root out things like religion anyway, because they can be very harmful. There will always be things used by people to justify horrible things(and sometimes also motivating them), but we should still fight to get them removed.
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Jm764 Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
and what about those who use religion to help those around them... should they be removed?

Science is used to place harm upon others... shouldn't it be removed?
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tdroid Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012
Science is a tool to understand the world, the best one we have at this time. Science in itself does not motivate anything. How people use it is another matter.

The thing about using religion to help those around them is that you don't need religion to do that. All charity work can be done seculary. A point of religious missonary is to spread the faith. And if they don't do anything like that, it is a secular mission(secular means that no religious view or dogma is attached to it).
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Jm764 Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Science and Religion we know well and how they are used in society...

How ever... religion gives to those who believe in it a better take upon life and those around them...

If we were to take that from them... then we'd be no better than those who have taken our rights to freely believe in what we wish to believe whether it is the belief that higher beings exist or not...

How ever... those who "force" their belief system upon those who do don't believe as they do should instead have their influential powers reduced.

Unfortunately, the world doesn't work like that... so we'll just have to deal with the way it operates now...
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tdroid Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012
I am not proposing to take someones right to believe what they want, I am an idealistic believer in Freedom of Speech and Feedom of Thought. What I am saying is that we have to challenge religion to justify their belief if they want it to have an effect on things like politics.

When I say remove religion, I mean that we should remove its effect on just that. People believing in something, but not using it to affect others are fine with me.
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Jm764 Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
In that respect we agree...
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Kenny-White-Lion Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Even without religion we would still destroy this world, and I believe that doomsday would be a lot quicker. Without Religion somethings would of not been prevented and With it things would of been prevented. Same thing goes for a world with science and no religion, this planet is a war planet and humans are always and will always fight. Hell the Dinosaurs did it for millions of years and so did other mammals, nothing different between humans.
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KingStephenArthur Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012  Student Photographer
there is no way for certain to say. Though I myself am completely against religion and would love to believe the world would be better off we can't really know.

say we had the opportunity to pull a lever that instantaneously removed all religions and religious thoughts from our existence. By pulling the lever we would be taking a gamble that whatever we fight over next would not be as bad as religion, whatever would take the place of religion, assuming something would, could very well be much worse.
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LazyPixel Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012
I would argue that there will always be religion. Religion isn't believing in a god, or gods or a sovereignty or whatever. If you look at the one thing religions have in common, it's following set rules and doctrine through life for whatever reason (get into heaven, achieve enlightenment, be one with the force). There's always going to be people who will gravitate towards a set of rules that they will live their by, they'll create a religion.
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siantjudas Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012   Digital Artist
It's difficult to say, in our present that is.

Religion was first made to help create social order in early societies, so people wouldn't be running around raping and killing each other. However, even with that said, religion has to provide some sort of incentive to follow the rules, otherwise we get early mesopotamian culture, where even though there is a religion, there is no reason to be "good" so in this case it doesn't really work, but also gives us an example of what would happen in a religionless society, at least early on.

However, in our post-modern era, it is debatable. Just because it was necessary at one time doesn't mean that it always is, and always will be. There could be a point were humans can finally transcend religion and take off those cultural training wheels so to speak and simply act with humanity in mind because we have advanced far enough to do so, in a way following neitchzes death of god.

However, I don't think we can ever live religionless, since religion is really just beliefs held by a group. Any belief held by a group, could fall into this.
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EnuoCale Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Would SMT exist without religion?

...There's your answer.
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SlimT Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
martial arts is like religion in that in their disciplined, and reflective form, they're both vastly creative, and serve to bolster your emotional and physical strength.

putting religion or martial arts in the hands of unthinking, undisciplined people, is like putting a two year old behind the wheel of a car.

by disicpline i mean a certain level of self control, and self awareness.
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IncandescentInsanity Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Student General Artist
Religion plays an important role in art history.

Aside from that, though, it is a blight upon humanity, and is keeping us from reaching our true potential
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Tidal-Wave-Art Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Nope. People should have the freedom to think and believe in what they want.
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HorrificSensation Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012
yeah sure but sometimes they like to try and force it on other people that dont care about it
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Tidal-Wave-Art Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Atheists do it too. It's happens in basically anything that requires personal preference.
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FerricPlushy Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Yeah atheists force christians to get abortions and gay marry in new york
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Kimihro Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I doubt it. People have a tendency of finding reasons to humiliate, annoy and kill each other.

It's not on purpose, though... just Entropy doing its work.
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MosstarKitteh Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
There is good and bad to everything: every event, every choice, every organization. I think if religion disappeared, some good things would happen, but bad things would happen as well. For me, it would depend on what unpredictable "good" and "bad" things happened in the alternate reality without religion.

I think this has been said already, but faith or spirituality is a whole other story.

PS: Don't hate on all religions; have the Buddhists ever done anything bad?
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Bullet-Magnet Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012
I think it would help.
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MagicMoonBird Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hm I would say yes, but only because of the wars and killings that started over religious agruments :no: However, allot of art is religion inspired, and people will allways worship something, like early people did with the sun and such....to explain the unexplaineble, some people need it as a reason to live O.o....Too be honost, the world, earth, would be better off without humans :shrug:
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ssensory Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012   Writer
YES, I totally agree that the world would be better off without humans. We suck so badly.
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MagicMoonBird Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, I know right?! O.o
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ssensory Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012   Writer
Haha, yes!
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Bullet-Magnet Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012
I think a lot of art was made by artists working for organisations that could actually pay them.
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MagicMoonBird Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah true, but those were religious organisations, like the churches
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Bullet-Magnet Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012
Exactly, they had the money, they could afford the work.
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MagicMoonBird Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Indeed!.....so if that wasnt the case, what would they have painted, well anyways, the art is definatly some of the interesting things that came to be because of religion :) and I also cant really imagine a world without mythology and such ( past religions?) I love those stories! :D
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Bullet-Magnet Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012
There are some works of art that could not exist without religious inspiration. Poetry, usually.
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MagicMoonBird Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, wouldnt it be a shame if something like that did not exist? :ohnoes: so religion ...even for those who hate it, or dont believe, it has brought us good things as well
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Bullet-Magnet Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012
Yes. But was it worth it?
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HorrificSensation Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012
most humans yes. we are destorying the planet that is letting us live on it lol >.>..
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MagicMoonBird Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah exactly! :nod:....and the worst thing is, we all know it, but we dont do anything about it :no:
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HorrificSensation Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012
cuz we dont care and are too lazy i guess XD >.>
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MagicMoonBird Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Its mostly lazyness I think....and in the current society its really hard to live "green" if you want to be part of the community/society, social pressure is making us live a certain way :nod: We really dont want to loose any comfort and such, its kinda sad when you think about it O.o the human race is doomed to fail if we keep on going like this
But I also think that we know about it, but we dont really realize it or something like that :XD:
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HorrificSensation Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012
i just hope it isnt doomed while im alive XD
and yes i agree X3 lol
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MagicMoonBird Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Haha same here :XD:
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OprahWinfreyX Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I think so very much.
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HorrificSensation Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012
I do to :D

sometimes.. >.> lol
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OprahWinfreyX Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
well first there's Livor,Rigor,pallor and algor mortis.
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Pakaku Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012
The world would be better off if everyone minded their own business
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DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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hippo-rim-job Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
But then what would we watch on television?
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Pakaku Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012
Cartoons and movies, maybe. None of this "reality" tv shit
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