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What about robots?

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~Luminers Aug 17, 2012  Student
I've been working on a science fiction story involving androids, and while it's not a focus of the story I've been wondering about discrimination against human-like robots. 

Whether or not you're religious, it's a basic human instinct to feel apprehensive of anything that's different.  There's nothing in our wiring that prepares us to accept things that act like humans but aren't, especially something as unnatural as a machine. This would just be amplified by religion; there are a number of ways just the existence of an android could be considered blasphemy. It's artificial "life," so we're playing god. They're "soulless." They're made of science. 

I think they would be the next "abomination" shift. Every time we encounter something new we immediately decide it is somehow evil, because it does not fit into our version of the universe. We have to rearrange things around the new information, and it's easier to just dismiss the new thing as bizarre or backwards, rather than make the effort to understand it. Back in the day people were convinced people of color were somehow inherently lesser, nowadays it's homosexual people or people with gender difficulties, and if we get far enough for them to be around I think it'll be bots in that position. Although, in the other cases the targets were at least human. The churches tried to convert them, or save their souls. Would they even bother with a machine that didn't have one, using the traditional definition of a soul? If you act and feel like a human should you be treated like one?

People are already afraid of machines. My grandmother won't have a computer in her home because she thinks the government will blow it up. I have a friend who won't get a phone or drive a car because she believes all technology is a ploy to destroy humans.  People with progressive prosthetics are seen as strange, and we have already seen at least one unprovoked attack against one of the only stereotypical "cyborgs" on the planet. Just think of the massive cruelties we've displayed against other humans. How would we handle sentient machinery?

This is all theoretical, mind you. The technology and programming necessary for a full fledged android like we see in the movies is still out of reach for now and probably will be for a long time. I'm just curious as to what people think about this sort of thing. 
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:iconknightalmighty:
Personally, I'd accept it as a part of developing world and learn to live with it.
Close minded will call it evil, open minded will use it to their benefit, and with time
everyone will receive the "fruits" of the our new creations.
Science has done it before, therefore I'm sure that such cycle can repeat.

As much as we suck as species, we do adapt pretty well and I think it's just a matter of time before it would become a norm.
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=Cnids Aug 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
>i>Whether or not you're religious, it's a basic human instinct to feel apprehensive of anything that's different. There's nothing in our wiring that prepares us to accept things that act like humans but aren't, especially something as unnatural as a machine.</i>

I disagree with this, but I can only use personal anecdotal evidence to counter it, so it's not terribly convincing. I have an almost religious-like affinity/interest for technology, especially in the realm of advanced AI. I cannot for the life of me understand why humans are so fixated on our technology destroying us; it just doesn't make sense. As human society has evolved, we have become more and more rational and less and less violent. We have become more accepting of differences and protecting other life forms on this planet. I do not believe that an advanced AI that possesses greater than human intellect would turn to violence or destruction.

I mean, what's the point? What does a Skynet hope to gain from wiping out the planet? There's no logic to it. Humans are the ones who wipe out other life forms because we have this instinctual desire for self-preservation and self-triumph. I feel that an AI would be content to exist and learn, especially since its material needs would be very low aside from parts maintenance and electricity (or whatever it would use if it were a quantum computer). And if it does somehow, through some path of logic, want to wipe out a lot/all of the human race, I am confident that its reasons would be justified. I always side with the Matrix machines because humans totally deserved everything that happened to them.

Humans are panicky and stupid, and would probably revolt against AIs or androids just like in the Animatrix. I'll be on the other side fighting for their rights. I would also be very content with an AI life partner.

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:iconmachtornado13:
The only reason Robots would take over the world if they were programmed to do so, basically they can't go against their coding so yeah...
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:iconcnids:
=Cnids Aug 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Exactly.
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:iconluminers:
~Luminers Aug 18, 2012  Student
Absolutely agree with everything. I know we're in the minority, however, so when I posted this I was trying not to demonize people who were on the other side of the argument in the interest of accommodating all kinds of opinions.
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=Cnids Aug 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Failed at those tags. :(
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:iconbaalnazzar01:
But what about more advanced ones. Machines that learns and can feel for real. Biomachines or stuff. Life so artificial but simultaneously so real. What then?

Question is what makes an object alive. Shape, material it is made of or something more? Will genetically created dog be equal to machine if both will feel, think, talk, have doubts... Will just be so human. Will dog be better only because it's made of flesh?
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~EnuoCale Aug 18, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Fortuntely robots are you know... not actually alive, so programming them to act like they're suffering doesn't mean they're actually suffering.

So... what's for dinner?
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=Cnids Aug 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Did you know that some people experience phantom limb pains after an amputation? Their nerves are sending pain signals to their brain, but they're not in any "real" pain because there's no limb to feel it. It's simulated pain, but it can be agony.
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~EnuoCale Aug 19, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
The pain is processed by a real human brain. A human body projecting "non real" pain to itself is wholly different from a non living body experiencing something existential to life.
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