thanks for this topic, i just learned that i hold a secularism belief to some degree.
its a great principle, the only problem is, Justice can be lost.
i.e. lets say one group of people believe in something that hurts another. if secularism is extreme, then others would not interfere. the only way justice can prevail, and save a person, or rescue and help others who are stuck, is to go against that principle, and impose our beliefs/values/principles through our actions.
how do we balance both? as much as i believe in this principle, i also believe in contradicting it because i believe in justice and saving people within reason.
as for the main body of your question:
the answer is NO. i dont believe any fancy beliefs in a beautiful story in an old book should have any privledge or right to reign atop of others and rule them.
i have sometimes envisioned a world where countries were based on nations, and beliefs - choice.
so for example. all secularian belief people, live in peace amongst each other in one country, by choice. as do all other countries in their own beliefs. this way there is no genuine reason for war, but only reason for peace. there would be less or no reason for elections or governments, or voting for different leaderships.
when people of different beliefs, values, principles etc, live amongst each other, there is war, difficulties of all kinds.
unfortunately, since humans don't all share 1 universal language, it makes that transition and possibility impractical to accomplish.
the last thing i wanted to add was that despite people or countries being devised by their beliefs in harmony and peace.
there will always be a need for laws and rules that people follow to manage offenders.
some basic universal principles.
to not cheat, harm, kill, assault, or abuse another. etc.
lets say one group of people believe in something that hurts another. if secularism is extreme, then others would not interfere. the only way justice can prevail, and save a person, or rescue and help others who are stuck, is to go against that principle, and impose our beliefs/values/principles through our actions.
What the fuck are you talking about? Protecting people isn't imposing our beliefs on someone, it's protecting the rights of another person.
Oxford defines secular as: "not connected with religious or spiritual matters: secular buildings secular attitudes to death Contrasted with sacred." (Pearsall et al. 2012, sec.1)
Of course it goes into specifics later on.
"Christian Church (of clergy) not subject to or bound by religious rule; not belonging to or living in a monastic or other order. Contrasted with regular."(Pearsall et al. 2012, sec.2)
Neither of these definitions assert that 'Secularism is a belief' in any way, so when you state that "Secularism is a belief that no religion should be given a privileged position in society nor put at a disadvantage in society." (Ragerancher 2012) it becomes patently clear that you don't understand what secular means. Either that or you don't understand what beliefs entail. Just to be thorough, a belief entails a trust or confidence in someone or something, if an action or stance is taken due to not trusting or having confidence in a system then it is implying the action is the antonym of belief, disbelief, dis- being the prefix meaning; 'not' or 'the opposite of'.
Well that argument made no sense. If you are for secularism then your belief is that secularism is the correct system.
Also you haven't even done the search for secularism, you searched secular. Secularism is more than simply not being connected with religious or spiritual matters, it is also the enforcement of that in society as a whole, preventing religious groups from imposing their views on others too.
Kid, for someone yelling at me about the "nuances of language" you are incredibly ignorant as to uses of certain words. Secularism is used by a huge number of people in the sense the OP means it. The word was coined in the 19th century in a similar capacity. Now look up secularism on it`s own in your precious dictionary. Go on.
Even then "The suffix '-ism' merely means a system or denoting an action or its result." is correct in a way. Secularism is the application or support of secular values. Which is exactly what the OP is talking about.
Ps: Unless you are capable of dragging your credentials up for examination I will take you for a well spoken pseudo-intellectual with zero knowledge of anything outside of what google can tell you in 10 minutes.
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