Why die for a fairy tail?

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~Kinoc-Kun Jul 27, 2012 Hobbyist Photographer

When I walk into the forums, I notice that the Philosophy and Religion forum is almost always filled with stuff debating AGAINST religion. I've heard a lot of arguments against it, some of which I can see the point of, but there is one thing that always gets me.

Comparing religion to grown people believing in fairy tails.

As a former atheist, I don't see why people call religion a fairy tail anymore. Jesus was a real person, so was Buddha, Mohammed, Moses, Solomon, David, the list goes on and on. Whether you believe in it or not, all religions have a ring of truth and history behind them.

Plus, I have yet to see people die for the tooth fairy, so why do they die for their beliefs?

Discuss.

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*UncleGargy Aug 1, 2012 Hobbyist General Artist

I'm going to be pedantic but its 'Tale' not 'Tail'

Was thinking it was some kind of new cult...get yourself a fairy's tail XD.

~Bettia Aug 1, 2012 Hobbyist General Artist

Even though there are some facts in the stories we read / are told, that doesn't mean that all of it is true. As an example there is this new film called Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter. We know Abraham Lincoln existed, but that doesn't mean what we say about him is true. I know that film is made to entertain but the principal applies either way. There can be told fairy tales about factual stuff. There was a Prince of Denmark called Amlet (Hamlet was based well at least partially on this figure), but that doesn't mean what Shakespeare wrote was a reality. All we know about historical people is that there has been found evidence that such a person should have existed. We don't know for a fact that Moses separated the waters, that Jesus turned wine into water, that Abraham was about to sacrifice his son and so on...
So therefore I think that believing in something that is, well, physically impossible (if there is no higher power involved) isn't that far from the fairy tale idea of Santa...

~genstian Aug 1, 2012 Hobbyist Digital Artist

Yes, they may well be real persons. Jim Jones was real, and made "Peoples Temple" in 1978, it doesn't make his messages more true.

It's nothing new, "God ordered me to do it". And I got to ask, have you read the bible? It contains Unicorns, Dragons, Leviathans, witchcraft, ghosts/sprits/angels/voices, a breed to feed 5000 (it reminds me of a old norse story) and the list goes on. I see less fairytale elements in most fantasy books, seriously.

~7h9tj4 Jul 31, 2012 Hobbyist

Start with sumerian legends and follow the chronology of religions.

~Totally-dead Jul 31, 2012 Hobbyist Writer

Tell me greek mythology happened? All of it`s contradicting elements? People died for that.

Also what proof do you have that ALL of the figures you cited existed? And all the stories about them are true? For fucks sake, there could be a grain of truth in Cinderella, Snow White and even Jack and the Beanstalk!

~RestInMotion Jul 29, 2012

Saint Nicholas?

~Lytrigian Jul 31, 2012 Hobbyist Writer

He was a real person too, and his body currently lies enshrined in Bari, Italy. That's a good example though, because many of the facts about his life are known, and they did NOT involve putting on a lot of weight, moving from Anatolia to the Arctic, and delivering gifts all over the world.

How that legend ended up developing around this undoubtedly historical person is a case study, no?

~Black-Allison Jul 29, 2012

Well Liu Bei, Cao Cao, and Sun Quan totally exists, but if we were to hold Romance of the Three Kingdoms as absolute proof, then humans have gotten a lot less awesome and super powered.

~xTernal7 Jul 28, 2012 Hobbyist General Artist

But fairies don't have tails...

Also Jesus didn't exist. Why? Because ~~fuck you, that's why~~ — let us start with the beginning, the story about his birth is a lie or "a tail of a fairy" as you would put it. The "headcount" which would require Joseph to return to Jerusalem had not happened. At all. Yes, reality check on recorded events fails that soon.

I also don't see why people call Lord of the Rings science fiction or fantasy, because everything most evidentially happened thousands of years ago§

~Kinoc-Kun Jul 28, 2012 Hobbyist Photographer

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