Arguments that only have subjective intuition as proof or basis

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~IcariusNatarius May 11, 2012

This seems to be really necessary to this forum, especially of the arguments about religion and the usual blaablaa.

So what is argument that is purely based on intuition? "I think I must have a soul". Generally all the arguments contributing to an idea of dualism, always swing by intuition and subjectiveness. Why? Because all of the arguments can be constructed to "imagine you are this and this, so doesn't it feel this way?". There are lots and lots of other arguments of this kind of course. The important key is "arbitrary construction to comply with ones own devices and deduction".

The thing about intuition is to understand it relies heavily on experience of the other. If a beginner goes by intuition in chess he will lose badly, if an expert goes by intuition he wins better than by thinking. But intuition can never be an argument and can never be a basis for an argument.

I'm horrified to hear the replies, but lets discuss this matter and try to be civil.

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~747823 May 14, 2012

Oh, I re-read your first post and it makes sense now. You weren't saying intuition IS perception, but that we perceive our intuitions... I still don't really feel that's the case though, and that intuition is more like self-evident knowledge that isn't really perceived, we just have it.

And I think knowledge can be false... there's no specific definition though, so I guess yours works too. If yours works, then intuition can be knowledge but isn't necessarily knowledge.

~SpacelanderRyo May 14, 2012 Student General Artist

No, I was saying that intuition is a form of perception, but not that all perception is intuition.
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I think that knowledge is what we know. If we don't know it, then we just think it. That's why I define knowledge as being necessarily true. But sometimes I define the concept of truth and falsity as an idiotic human invention that does not apply to reality.

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~TheAwsomeOpossum May 11, 2012

You don't use intuition to justify an argument... it wouldn't work for that, because the other person can't experience your intuition. You use it to justify belief though, as you are allowed to use your own feelings to justify them.

If you tell someone else to use intuition, you have to risk them having a different intuition. Sometimes that happens, sometimes it doesn't, and it's one's own choice of whether to use it or not.

!morphinesoup May 11, 2012

Nah man if you're talking about ideas such as the soul, you will have to break it down to that sort of fundamental level, intuition, conciousness, awareness. Intuition is no match for evidence, but if it's all you've got to work with, it can be the foundation of a philosophical conversation.

~StripedPower May 11, 2012 Digital Artist

I'd say intuition is the opposite of the reason. But that doesn't mean it should be excluded from any argument.

With intuition, the answer is first, you have to understand it to get to the explanation. With reason, the explanation is first, and you have to understand it to get to the answer.

~SpacelanderRyo May 11, 2012 Student General Artist

"Once upon a time there was a magic mirror that could tell when you were lying. If you were, ZAP! it would suck you in and you were gone forever.

One day, an old lady, a brunette, and a blonde happened by the mirror. The old lady looked in it and said, "I think I'm the most beautiful woman in the world." ZAP! The mirror sucked her in and she was gone.

The brunette looked in and said, "I think I'm the most beautiful woman in the world." ZAP! The mirror sucked her in and she, too, disappeared.

The blonde looked in and said, "I think. . ."

ZAP! "

!morphinesoup May 11, 2012

That blonde must have been damn beautiful

!StyrofoamB00ts May 11, 2012

lol.

~OniricSkull May 11, 2012 Professional Digital Artist

Those who answer with arguments based on intuition need to take a Logic class.

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