My parents are pushing me to take Zoloft


NerdyAndProud's avatar
This post will need some context so you know exactly what I'm going through. I wrote a post on here about two years ago that's a bit long, so I'll copy what's relevant.

"In September I told my mom I was constipated. She bought me some laxative pills to help. You don't really need details on that, so fast forward to somewhere in October and I told my mom I was still having problems. I mentioned that it was weird how I was taking pills but still seemed to be having problems, and how she should take me to the doctor. Something you should know about my mom: she puts things off and procrastinates. I might have mentioned it again but my memory is fuzzy. November we go to Ohio to visit family for a week. For that ENTIRE week I felt so shitty that I rarely got out of bed. I asked mom to please take me to the doctor when we get home. I continued to badger her to at LEAST call to make an appointment, but every time she said she could just give me an enema. It pissed me off that she would just keep throwing over-the-counter pills at me instead of doing something to actually help me. Keep in mind that at this point I was feeling so sick I couldn't eat, barely drank anything, and couldn't do much more than walk to the couch in the living room and plant myself there. A month later after the November incident my dad finally took me to a "Doc in the Box" (And I love them, if you ever see a doctor,nurse,ect. you kiss them right on the mouth.). I should mention I went the day after Christmas, only to find out the problem was I wasn't eating because of my fear of throwing up (and am still fully convinced a therapist would have caught on, had I had a therapist which my mom said she was looking into months ago.)." 

I got better physically for a short while after seeing someone, but didn't see a doctor or nutritionist for almost a year after so I slowly kept getting worse during that time. By the time I finally saw a nutritionist my body fat percentage was 12. I only saw her once (along with a therapist she wanted me to see) before my mom had a stroke. My mom made it out mostly unchanged, except for the fact the she was of the belief that I suddenly didn't have a weight issue it was all in my head. I did see that therapist a handful of times before moving again, during which she told my mom that I shouldn't exorcise because she was worried about what that would do to my heart, and that I absolutely should see my nutritionist (who I saw maybe twice after my mom's stroke.) My mom didn't believe her and kept insisting I just needed to exorcise and I'd be fine. She won't hear anyone out unless she agrees with them.

We moved and now there's a big, big problem my parents refuse to take seriously. I saw a psychiatrist a few days ago who I didn't like at all. I tried to tell her about how I was slowly becoming emaciated and how I can't even shower without being wiped out for the rest of the day (Just going to see this woman has screwed my body up a lot). She, along with my mom, are convinced I'm so weak because I'm focusing all my energy on anxiety, which is not true. I'm not anxious all the time, I know what it feels like when I'm having anxiety, and I'm pretty sure not being able to sit on anything that isn't very plushy because it hurts my butt and back too much is not caused by anxiety. I've seen this woman one time and she diagnoses me with OCD and depression, and is pushing me to take Zoloft. Not to mention she told my parents things I never told them like how I've thought of suicide and other very private things. She broke my trust immediately on top of not listening to me. I'm 18 I didn't think she was allowed to go and tell them what we talked about the entire session. She also kept going on and on about how the Zoloft will improve my life, still ignoring the fact that I don't need nor want it. My therapist I saw before said I have OCD like tendencies and had a low mood all the time, not depression, which I agree with because my parents are the reason I've never really been happy. Another problem is my dad is going to call a doctor tomorrow to see if I can get a physical soon 'cause I won't let the issue drop that I'm not healthy and I do have a weight problem, but if I can't get in soon enough he still wants me to take the Zoloft as he is afraid by the time I see the Dr again the medication won't have any effect yet so we wouldn't know if we need to switch to something else. I'm supposed to take 5-10 milligrams of Zoloft which shouldn't have any effect on someone who is healthy, but I'm not, so I don't know what it would do to me especially because I don't even need it. I'm hoping that the physical will show that I am getting emaciated and THAT is causing me issues not anxiety, but I need to convince my dad that not taking Zoloft until after the physical is not a bad thing, since we have (or had now) this deal where we'd see a doctor to make sure I was in good health before taking the meds, and if I DID have a physical problem we'd go from there.

I just don't know what to do. At this point I think I'll just end up starving to death. I don't even want to know what my bf % is. I need help but no one is listening to me.
 
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Phantom-Horse's avatar
Zoloft ruined a friendship of mine permentally. First and only med I went cold turkey on.
ArynChris's avatar
You are in the United States?  You are 18?  It doesn't matter which state you live in or who you live with, or even whether you're a legitimate suicide risk; a psychiatrist IS NOT permitted to tell to anyone else what you told to her.  She's not even permitted to tell her diagnosis to someone else unless you sign a release form, and the release form has to state each person/hospital by name.  This woman broke the law.

Moreover?  Zoloft is a serious psychiatric drug with very, very serious and harmful effects.  It's actually under debate right now if Zoloft is even an effective anti-depressant, because it a lower effective rate than placebos.  It absolutely should not be given to someone with other serious health problems.  That's retarded.

Look, I've taken Zoloft.  I legitimately do have depression.  You know what I learned?
1. It's very expensive.  Therefore, doctors who care more about money than their patients' health like to prescribe it.
2. It's one of the top 5 anti-depressants on the market at any given time, so for nearly 20% of psychiatrists, it's the go-to drug of choice.
3. If it doesn't work (and I'll bet you a years' income that it won't), it's not worth what it does to you.

You have the legal right to decide on your own medical care or lack thereof, based on all the information available.  The psychiatrist-- all doctors-- are required to give you that information, and what they fail or forget to tell you, the internet or another doctor can.  No one can make you do this.  This is YOUR CHOICE.

As for getting a physical... do it.  Do it, do it.  Explain to the doctor that your real concern is your weight and body fat, that this began with long-term, untreated/improperly treated digestion problems, and that what you really want is to safely regain your health with proper nutrition and so on, not by stuffing yourself full of drugs when you barely have the spoons to finish showering.  If you want to bring up psychological stuff, DON'T tell him any details, ESPECIALLY anyone's diagnosis-- physicians aren't specialized in that and can get distracted from the real issues-- just say that you saw a therapist and it was confirmed that this is not psychological, but your parents think you are making it up and you want proof, so that they will help you get proper medical care.  Most importantly, you want to know where you stand with your health and get a referral to a nutritionist, because the weight loss frightens you.  Make sure the physician knows that and answers all your questions, or makes a follow-up appointment (or URGENT referrals) to get them answered.

As for your dad... refuse to take the Zoloft before seeing the physician.  The physician is your official "second opinion," even if s/he never hears about the Zoloft and says yes or no.  If s/he simply does not prescribe it, that counts as a no.  Make it clear that you're not taking it, even if they pay for it.  And if they buy it, follow through and DON'T take it.  Not until you see that physician, and not unless you are very sure that that's the right course.  I cannot emphasize enough that your medical care is YOUR CHOICE.

It might also be a good idea to call and make the doctor's appt yourself.  You're 18-- you'll have to do this on your own soon anyway, and it breaks your parents' influence on this whole situation.  You make the appointment, you decide what to say or not say over the phone, you are in the examine room ALONE with the doctor, the doctor treats you like the adult you are in this situation, instead of a child needing parental supervision.  This may be very uncomfortable at first, but you can do it.  Keep resolute, and take control of what's happening to you.  YOU are the one in charge here.
NerdyAndProud's avatar
I actually have an appointment on Thursday and I will take your advice on what to tell the doctor, thank you so much! 
ArynChris's avatar
Mercury-Crowe's avatar
It took me five years and almost 10 doctors before one believed that my mental problems are being caused by physical problems, not the other way around. 

If you are legally an adult, your parent's can't make you do anything. If you have insurance, call the insurance company or go on the website and find an eating disorder specialist and make an appointment. If you don't, contact your local low-income services and talk to them about getting assistance. If nothing else, you can often find low-cost or free mental health clinics you can call or walk into. 

First: I'm like 99.9% sure antidepressants aren't supposed to be used on people under 21 unless it's a last resort. Risk of suicide on them goes way up- and believe me, some of them WILL make you suicidal. I'd get a second opinion on that. 

Zoloft can be pretty nasty, really, I've been on it, but so can any mental med...It doesn't matter what weight you are with  most mental health meds, Zoloft fiddles with your serotonin which determines your perception of the world as well as regulates your digestive system, that's not dependent on how much you weigh- it cuts depression and anxiety by changing your perception so you don't hyper-react to situations, and changes in your digestive system can also help you gain weight.  I can't remember what the pills are like, if they aren't time release you can break them into smaller doses and try that at first. 

Most of the time it's really hard to diagnose weight loss, if you don't have some obvious physical problem they'll usually try something for your mental health and see if that helps any, even if it's not anxiety causing the weight loss if the anxiety is gone you may be better able to figure out what is going on physically as you'll be more likely to be able to eat regularly, etc. Being anxious pumps out stress hormones that kill your digestive and immune system and direct energy toward your muscles, etc, so you can stay light on your feet and run away at any second...that's great for a few hours but when it gets into days and weeks suddenly you're running into all of these physical problems- you can't eat, you're sick all the time, etc- and it's all being caused by chemical imbalances, which is why you don't come off as being obviously ill for any reason. Unless you're incredibly underweight to the point where you are literally malnutritioned (and believe me, that's way harder than you probably assume, I'm about 30lbs underweight and can barely eat anything and I'm still apparently healthy as far as they are concerned, so...)

Mental health meds should be looked at to begin with as just a band-aid/asprin, they'll help temporarily while you fix the problem at the root (which is going to mean therapy) unless you're suffering from a genetic/structural chemical imbalance like bi-polar, etc, in which case meds may need to be used for life. 
NerdyAndProud's avatar
How did you finally get a doctor to believe you?
Mercury-Crowe's avatar
You just have to keep going to different doctors until you find one that works for you. And you need a record of what you have tried and be able to clearly explain the situation, when it started, what makes it better or worse, etc, that may mean keeping a diary of how you feel, what you eat, how much you sleep, etc, the more information you tan give them the better. Doctors are like anybody else, some are only interested in 'easy' work- your run of the mill every day problems that are easy to fix- some are willing to do more work and try to help people who have problems that are harder to get to the bottom of. Unfortunately the ones who like a challenge end up in hospitals or doing research, not in regular clinics, but once in awhile one slips through. You just have to make a list and start going from one to the next until one works. 
xXTheBlackSheepXx's avatar
I can tell that you've got a lot going on and that this whole situation with your physical and mental health is really taking a toll on you. But the way you're handling everything is really not doing you any favors.

You've had so many people already that have been trying to help you with your issues; doctors, nutritionists, therapists, psychiatrists, even your parents (despite how much you dislike them, who do you think is paying for all of this? They love you and are doing all these things to help you). You seem entirely convinced that the psychiatrist you are seeing is completely off her rocker, and that you know exactly what is wrong with you and she must be crazy if she put you on an antidepressant. I'm not saying that there aren't bad psychiatrists out there, but do you really think you are in the right state of mind to disagree with your doctor's orders? I think you just need to cool of a bit and put yourself in the hands of professionals who know what they are doing.

I can understand why you'd be upset that she leaked information about what you said in therapy to your parents, but I think you should double check on the paperwork and make sure you understood the terms. I believe that in dire situations, like I dunno, if a patient admitted to wanting to kill themselves, the psychiatrist actually has the authority to call the police or to take whatever actions they deem necessary to help that person. I know that when I when to see a therapist on my own when I was 18, one of the papers I signed was an agreement that they could contact someone, like a parent, if they ever thought my situation called for that kind of action.

I don't think the problem here is that no one is listening to you, I think it's that you have plenty of recourses available to you and that you aren't taking advantage of any of them. You are an adult now, and you have the option to go to doctors on your own. You have the option to seek out help. You have the option to request a different therapist or second opinion.

Hope this doesn't come off as harsh, I really hope that you'll find your way and things will start looking up for you. Feel free to contact me for any reason.
NerdyAndProud's avatar
The thing is I've gotten help that really worked for me, this therapist I was seeing was really great, she listened to me and was trying to help me manage my anxiety. When we moved she had given me a referral to someone she knew in the area I live in now, but that person wasn't seeing any new patients. This lady I'm seeing now was recommended by my mom's friend, and I only knew what my mom told me and was led to believe she would help with my weight, not trying to prescribe me pills. Me and my mom both agreed that that wasn't something we wanted and she only changed her mind because she's tired of me complaining about my weight, she told me that. 
xXTheBlackSheepXx's avatar
Prescribing you pills can help you with your weight, but you probably don't understand that because you're not a doctor. Just because a med is labeled as an antidepressant doesn't mean that's all it does; many medicines have several uses. This therapist is probably just trying to tackle the issue from a different angle than you're used to. Why are you so aggressive against her advice before even trying the medication? If you're paying to get her opinion, only to do nothing with it, you're wasting everyone's time and money.

It might be possible to wait until this other therapist starts accepting new patients, but honestly that's a long shot. I think it's a good thing to keep looking until you find someone you're comfortable with, but you can't exactly be too picky. Just because someone decides to try putting you on a medication isn't valid enough reason to drop them in my opinion. For all you know the pills can help, but you're too stubborn to even try.

Either way, there comes a time when you need to start taking responsibility for your own issues, be it eating disorders or anxiety or depression and whatnot. You can go to as many therapists or doctors as you want, but if you don't have the drive or motivation to take any action yourself and make getting healthy your new personal goal, any advice you get from them will do no good. You're attitude walking into these appointments shouldn't be "this is what I need, this is what I want" but rather "I am willing to do whatever it takes to get rid of this problem".
DruDrewDraws's avatar
unless you signed something that said you give the therapist full rights to disclose that information to your parents, she had no right to do that and you should seek legal action. 
as far as your health, seek out health care specifically for those struggling with eating disorders.  
NerdyAndProud's avatar
Before we moved I was seeing people who dealt with eating disorders and they were really great, I liked them a lot. My parents though, want me to keep seeing this woman because the only reason I don't want to see her (according to them) is because she prescribed me medication I don't want. I told them the issues I had with her, that she doesn't listen, she's diagnosing me with a bunch of shit after meeting with me once, and my mom keeps making excuses for why she would do those things. They only like her cause she can prescribe Zoloft.
DruDrewDraws's avatar
Well I mean, you are 18.  You don't have to listen to them.  
NerdyAndProud's avatar
I know, I'm stubborn enough to fight them on this, but my mom is really stubborn too. I just don't know what I'm going to do if I can't get any help from anybody.
SavageFrog's avatar
How old are you?
NerdyAndProud's avatar
I'm an adult, 18.
SavageFrog's avatar
Good, you can legally decline the treatment & like DruDrewDraws says, you're issue sounds like a "weight one" & you should attempt to convince your parents one last time or even go on your own to seek out a Eating disorder specialist since your BMI is definitely worrisome.

5-10mg is actually a really low dose; typically causes no trouble (& bizarrely enough, Zoloft is used in Eating Disorder treatments since it helps "ease" certain symptoms www.webmd.com/mental-health/ea… - which I'm pretty sure they poorly worded this one to you & your parents but seriously, first pick shoulda been "eating disorder" not the "side conditions").
NerdyAndProud's avatar
How do you suggest I get help by myself? This all started a few years ago so I never had the opportunity to get a job, plus I barely have the energy to stand for even a short amount of time. I'm completely depended on my parents financially. 
SavageFrog's avatar
Internet searching for specialists in your area; contact them via e-mail or phone to work out when you can meet them.
If you are under your parent's healthcare still, you'll have to verify that A) they accept said plan B) at least one of your parents says "yes" to it (which your dad seems like the more reasonable person to ask in this case) or if you don't have that, it's a matter of working out a payment plan with them but it would still be one step closer to actually getting the treatment you need.
NerdyAndProud's avatar
If the doctor appointment goes the way I hope it does it shouldn't be hard to get my dad to help, he just wants a doctor to tell him what's wrong, he won't take my word for it. 
SavageFrog's avatar
Will your parents be in the room during the exam? Because, if they're not-you can bring up the issue with the doctor & for a referral pretty easily.
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