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Is there such a thing as functionally sane?

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SethAdmirer Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Perhaps this isn't the best place to divulge things like this. All the same, I'd like to see your take and comments.

I wouldn't say I'm suicidal, but my self-preservation instincts seem a little...off. There were quite a few situations that threatened either my life or wellbeing significantly in which I was unable to produce a response. Only luck had saved me.

Also, I had a few unhappy memories in the past, and only recently realised that I don't remember them. Well, I've a general idea what happened, but not the specifics. Faces, time, place and sensations are all gone. That should be a plus point, except every time I face too much pressure for too long, something resurfaces and causes a mental breakdown before fading AGAIN. I've had about three incidences like this these few months. So it's rare enough not to ruin my life, but the side effects are quite debilitating.

Has anyone here undergone similar experiences? It would also be helpful if you could provide suggestions on how to get discreet, constructive help; because I can't afford therapy or letting ANYONE, including my family/ community know about this. Thank you.
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:iconimnurhest:
Imnurhest Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yup.

"We're all mad here." ~ Cheshire Cat
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SethAdmirer Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Good answer. ;)
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meggierenee Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Professional General Artist
Can you go to a mental health clinic that charges on a sliding scale?

I believe there is a thing as functionally sane. I have schizoaffective disorder and absolutely cannot function without medication. It's scary to think back to the times I had before seeking treatment. However, with my medication, most people can't even tell I'm sick. I work, go to school, and I'm married. My life is pretty normal...boring even.
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SethAdmirer Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Errmmmm...no? I thought their rates go by the hours and the meds. :/

Anyway, it's good to hear that you're getting on with life now. :)

I'd kinda always hoped it wouldn't boil down to the pills though. I am certainly not looking forward the money required and the side effects. Is it possible to rely solely on maybe therapy, counselling, support groups and the like?
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meggierenee Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Professional General Artist
I'm not sure where you are located, but in the US there are many places that have clinics that charge on a sliding scale based on your income so they can better serve low income families.

If your problems are clinical and not situational I don't think you can get by with just support groups and therapy. Mental illnesses are physical medical conditions that you can't talk your way out of. Therapy could help with life skills and coping techniques, but it won't treat the actual symptoms.

It's not so bad taking medication. I'm used to it now and I function so much better with pills.
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prosaix Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013
yeah probably.
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SethAdmirer Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh; ok. (*stares hypnotically at icon*)
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lukasbennett Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Professional Photographer
When a person has been through a traumatic event in their life, a automatic mental coping mechanism becomes active. This blocks out all the bad memories or causes you to blackout during the traumatic experience... but your subconscious remembers everything.

When you get put in similar situations, stressful situations, or when you get particully angry it can bring back the memories in flashes which can cause depression and cause people to self harm.

you find that people blame other stressful situations as the reasoning behind everything, not knowlingly... it's somthing far worse and underlying.

the only way to get through suck things is to see a specialist as they will provide help. If you try and figure out the cause yourself without help, the situations may become dire.

you find this with a lot of children who has been sexually abused
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SethAdmirer Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well, no; I wasn't sexually abused. There was some light beatings and quite a bit of psychological abuse; maybe possibly emotional and social abuse. The latter can be quite hard to categorise. =_=

Yeah, the flashback bit. Christ, that hurt. ): Thankfully, I'm self-aware enough and retain sufficient memories to know the reason behind some of my feelings and impulses; so I can regulate myself to a degree. At least, minimal blaming. Nobody should have to suffer for my kooky moments.Though there are probably some things that escape the net.

I know everyone is suggesting therapy, and I understand that it's the best option. But I can't afford one right now. It'll also come with a lot of sticky downsides in my current position. So I'm toughing it out with counselling and more reading at this stage. It's just maybe 3 to 5 years till I get a job; so I'll be ok.

Thanks for sharing. :)
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DamaiMikaz Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's strange, but can also be a free thought, to realize that every single person has character traits like this, more or less.
There's no such thing as madness or insanity. The whole concept was never proven, and there's no such thing as a harsh borderline for what's insane and what's not. It's just a system that people thought up, to get rid of those people in society that cause a lot of trouble, or are too weird to be accepted anyway.

If it's really bothering you, you could think about therapy, or self help. There are a lot of websites or books that are there to help you through this kind of thing. To me, just realizing that I wasn't the only one, and that we're all mad, was a very relieving thought already.
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SethAdmirer Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hmmm. That's ...intriguing, if a little hard to swallow. While socially-abhorred behaviour as an arbitrary concept is a great instrument in advancing culture and protecting human rights, I'd really not want to see it amply applied to say, the definition of crime. =_='''

Yeah; I'm considering that at the mo'. Starting by reading up on emotional intelligence. I'm going for counselling once my holiday is over too; and maybe some volunteering at an animal shelter if I can find one.

Glad that we're all quirky. Now I know I'll never be alone. ;) Thanks for sharing!
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signsofortune Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013
My mom is like you describe yourself.

I have no suggestions as to how to get discreet constructive help, oh wait, maybe I do.

At my university, there was a health center and they offered 6 free sessions for students. also, they offered really cheap sessions after the 6 free ones ( i think it was like 40 bucks or something)

Maybe you go to a university, and could look around for something of that sort? Oh another thing! At my university one could get FREE counseling from students! (not sure if its really awesome counseling, but hey, FREE)

so maybe if you're near a university you could go get yourself a free counselor. Keep in mind though, you get what you pay for.
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SethAdmirer Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thanks. Yeah, I'm studying at a university right now. The counselling should be free, but they're probably expecting to hear about romantic and money problems. Don't know if they're equipped to handle this ('cause my experience with the support group helplines has so far been negative).

I know therapy would be a better option; but the social implications and financial burden aren't to be trifled with. It's also likely to involve my family in ways that could hurt my parents substantially and wreck my relationship with them/ myself further.The downside isn't worth it; not until I'm no longer financially dependent.
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Lifh Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2013
Trying to tell the difference between sane and "insane" is like trying to distinct normal from "freakish". It is purely subjective. People who are considered "insane" by the government and family just see the world in different eyes, and that scares people. That's why they give them magic pills to "cure" their "illness". Perhaps the truly insane people are the people who the general public consider "normal". Think about it.
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SethAdmirer Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Good insight; if a little bizarre. ;) Thanks for sharing!

I'm not looking for a "total cure" per say. Apparently, there isn't one; I'm getting used to the fact.

On the other hand, it would be nice if I had less self-destructive propensities. It's affecting my emotional capacity too; so sooner or later there'll be some major screwage. I just need some control; maybe bit o' support. That's the gist of it.
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Lifh Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
What is bizarre and what is normal? No. Explain this to me.

What you need is to wake up and realize that the whole world is scooby doo.
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SethAdmirer Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Errmmm. I get your point. Really.

But I'm not referring to quirks or anything. What I meant was the certain things that are messing up the quality of my life and wrecking my emotional strength. Like the inability to sleep, the high stress and anxiety; stuff like that. It makes me vulnerable and liable to break. Now THAT has got to change.
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Lifh Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013
Get over yourself, you snob. You people are all the same. Me-me-me-me-ME! You need to realize there is more then one witch in the coven, Virginia Woolf.
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SethAdmirer Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh. I'm sorry if I've offended you in any way.

But the point of this thread WAS to obtain some advice. Though I'm not sure if I catch your point here. Were you suggesting I shouldn't go for counselling or anything at all; or shouldn't open this thread and draw attention to my problems in the first place?

Didn't catch your reference either, I'm afraid. Though if I remember, the lady is supposed to be a pretty good author. So please don't insult her if that's what you're doing. Thank you.
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Lifh Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013
What the fuck? Why the hell would I insult VIRGINIA WOOLF?! She would kill me for sure this time if she caught me doing that, you idiot! You don't understand anything, jinkies! My barbie bed baby is roasting in the oven. I'm in the fridge, so go ahead and eat some cheese, you baby-eating bitch.
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SethAdmirer Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That... makes even less sense.

I would suggest you calm down a bit, guv.
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Blackrabbit98 Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
typically you would have needed to undergone a tramatic experience if you have PTSD

i have schizno-affective disorder, and with meds and therapy id say im functionally sane...tho im not allowed to work.

but i recommend therapy, most people go to therapy for various cases of depression. Depression can affect you in many ways based on the level of depression, it can even cause psychosis symptoms.

therapy can go along way ecspecially if you find the right therapist. Also dont worry about being a certain age, depression can be found in most ages included children, and therapy helps through all ages.
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PoultryChamp Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Just curious, why are you not allowed to work?
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Blackrabbit98 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
i get panic attacks when stressed
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PoultryChamp Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Oh.
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SethAdmirer Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I think my experiences could fit into the category. They're somewhat unconventional, but the reactions I had and things I felt then could certainly represent trauma. So it's a possibility?

Oh.... I can't do that; not working. Still a full-time student here, so I can't dredge up the money for therapy. :( Can't tell the parents either. It'll have to wait till I've got a job. Just have to hang tight till then. (*shrugs)

Thanks for the suggestion and stuff though. :) And good luck with your treatment.
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Blackrabbit98 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
once you get therapy...which u can try to get because your a full time student, you can go for social secruity....if your therapy thinks you should go for it.
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SethAdmirer Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Social security...you're American, aren't you? ;P

That's a good idea, but we don't exactly have an equivalent for that here. I checked my university's healthcare package too when I first got in; zilch (which isn't too weird considering I'm supposed to be 100% ok when I accepted the offer).

Therapy is seriously expensive...I've a family member who's undergoing treatment; and the meds eat up a grand per month. (*shakes head) Assuming the costs are divided evenly among the types he takes, an SSRI should cost a few hundred.

...I really don't know how I'd afford that. =.=

On an unrelated topic,do Americans form a majority of the DA account holders? I know there are many users of other nationalities; but it's curious to see how naturally some I've talked to assume it's their own folks at the other end too.

Don't mean to offend anyone of course! It's just; a little strange. (*shrugs)
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Blackrabbit98 Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
hmm that sucks, therapy does wonders if you find your match with the right therapist


ya im american, i guess its ignorant to assume that people on da are too.

i dont know if the majority is american, its a big world
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SethAdmirer Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah; it does. Small wonder 2 in 5 teens have depression here; there's so little support in this aspect. Gotta cross my fingers, sit tight and make do with counselling at the moment; I guess.

One thing's for sure, I'm never going for my relation's pick. Didn't even warn him about the side effects of his prescriptions. That's shitty professionalism if you ask me.

It's fine; actually. Personally, I find it amusing. Especially the "but your English is good! O.o" part. And the Brit who thought my accent was posh. I was ready to start cackling. XD If they knew how I sound at the markets...
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Blackrabbit98 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
british accents > american accrnts
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SethAdmirer Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Really? I think any accent is fine. Mine doesn't seem to fit anywhere though. It's more a mix than anything. ;P
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Juliabohemian Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013
I think more people meet this description than you realize. A large portion of the military, for instance.
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SethAdmirer Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Okaaayyyy...I always knew I couldn't be the only one; but that's one bizarre comparison. (*stares at unfit, nerdy self)

I just googled up 'military' and 'disorders'. They gave me PTSD. I'm not sure; but I don't think all my symptoms fit the description. A few may even run contrary.

I really, really hope it's not PTSD. They're saying it's permanent. Please. No.
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Juliabohemian Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013
I know people who have overcome PTSD
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SethAdmirer Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I dunno. It says is that all you can do is alleviate the symptoms. I sure hope it's curable. Does that mean I should get a screening? I can't involve my family though. This is going to be hard.
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Juliabohemian Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013
There are different kinds of PTSD. If you lived in a toxic or extremely dysfunctional environment for an extended period of time, it’s possible to develop the same symptoms.

It isn’t curable technically because it will always be a part of you. But as far as it being possible to move on and function normal, it absolutely is. And that should be the goal.
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SethAdmirer Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That's a relief. Different kinds huh? Never heard of that one; I suppose I've got more reading to do.

Thanks for the info. :)
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Juliabohemian Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2013
Sure. Good luck.
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SethAdmirer Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
^_^
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