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Everywhere I go on the internet...

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Lain-Otonashi Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Student General Artist
I find people acting so horrible to each other in forums. Bickering like a person without reason. Now, I'm not perfect, (and this WILL come out so whiny that I cannot even stand it) I used to have a hard time containing my anger when I was younger, but damn, why can't people act a little civil? Look to sense instead of senseless? I guess that's human nature for ya.

The anonymity of the internet does not give you the right to act like a arsehole.

And this bothers me, usually I would ignore it but I've realized a link in a problem I've been having. I rarely try to seek out others, consider it to be a waste of time if people act so in a way that I'd rather avoid them.

I know this wont change...but at least I get this off my chest. Eeehhhh.
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Lain-Otonashi Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Student General Artist
That, I do understand, actually. Though the difference in real life is different, unless the troll online is a person you know in real life. Either way; they don't matter. Just chew on this: If your instincts say you can't trust a certain person; you're probably right. Most people don't have good judgement in the first place. And that makes it easier to make friends.

I'm mostly introverted because of the way I think; almost misanthropic. And I don't have a huge amount of friends, but I choose them wisely.

That, and life is too short for bs. Just do what you do.
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SolidSpy24 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I've had to deal with some trolls just recently. It's terrible, especially when they do something you can't fix with no justification. I've had it happen to me multiple times throughout my life, and it happens to everyone. When I first got on the internet, it happened to me. It was on spriters resource, the most popular spriting website in the world. And When I got there to submit sprites, they made fun of them and told me I sucked I was in a world full of hurt. Just, the internet isn't a safe place to be, period. Even on the most friendly of websites like deviantart, there will be trolls, nomatter what.
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Lain-Otonashi Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Student General Artist
I wouldn't worry about that. That's happened to me, too. I'm not great at everything. I'm glad I'm not, otherwise I'd be a 20-year-old-prick that is never satisfied by anything.

Really, nobody on the internet is this pristine specimen they try to portray online. And that's when my pity comes in-- and often irritation. They try so hard to make themselves-- or their cowardly guise, relevant.

Well, that's at least what I gather of them. Though, I'm glad the internet is not a complete cesspool. ;D
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SolidSpy24 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I understand, but it's when trolls do something BIG that really makes your life miserable when things get outta hand, it's like (dealing with trolls Expert Mode). The same things happen to me in real life. When I first tried to make friends in highschool, people just made fun of me, and i couldn't trust anyone because of it. Even when people did try to be nice to me i didn't trust them. Do you see what I mean?
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LahCat Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
they may seem to hurt each others, but maybe they're having fun, who knows?
you must relax for a while turn your computer off, turn the tv off, go outside to the fresh air and read your favorite book and you will go to another world, that always helps.. it even relaxes the eyes :)
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Disappearing-Inkwell Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013
the sad truth is 'people suck' and its pathetic that they have to attack you through a computer screen, but i guess you will just have to fight through the pain and find a good group of people that will treat you right.
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Lain-Otonashi Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013  Student General Artist
If it's someone I don't even know. I don't even take it to heart, dust off the shoulder, you know? I mostly pity them, too. And it's sad, good people are hard to find.
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Disappearing-Inkwell Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013
good people are too hard to find,i don't know why people think just because they are online they can act like that to people.
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Lain-Otonashi Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013  Student General Artist
Yep, ain't that the truth. I'm lucky to know some pretty decent people in real life. Online seems mostly a waste half of the time, but I keep going because you can meet some people with some self respect. Immaturity mostly; that's about all I can sum up to that kind of person.

Wow, and my friends say I don't talk enough. :P
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Disappearing-Inkwell Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013
well i'm one, and apparently so are you, at least its good to know there are some good people here.
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Lain-Otonashi Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013  Student General Artist
Thank you, though I don't quite believe myself to be a good person. But, I try, I don't exactly want to stoop to a sorry excuse's level. That's definitely a motivation.

The effort is worth knowing at least. :D
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Disappearing-Inkwell Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013
if you can keep a conversation with someone this long online, you are one of the better people here.
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Lain-Otonashi Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013  Student General Artist
Thanks. You are, too. And the funny thing is, as long as I've been here. My interest has never been piqued by the forums. This is the first one where I said, " What the hell? Do eet. " The results were oookay, interesting, but the trolls are strong with this site.
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NeutraStaff Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013
That's because they are trolls, people who purposely cause trouble just for the sake of causing trouble. No matter what you do or where you go there will always be people who just want to see the world burn. Not everyone on earth is going to be a good person and unfortunately we have to share a world with them. Best thing you can do is to just avoid people like that as best as you can. They will naturally attempt to bait you the best they can to get you into their trap which gives them more power. You have to do your part and stay focused with people who want to add better things rather then destroy what's good.
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Lain-Otonashi Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013  Student General Artist
Well, at least you're being yourself.
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Snitz3l Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013
I agree
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Knightster Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013
"The anonymity of the internet does not give you the right to act like a arsehole. "

Actually it does. It elevates the threat of social repercussion.
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Lain-Otonashi Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013  Student General Artist
I'm mostly controlled now, despite being a few things that still gnaw at me. I'm not even the type to show much emotion anyway. Though, as a person who knows how irritating it is to be annoyed by some idiot, I tend to want to put people in their place. I know it's futile on the internet, but it still irritates me. I guess I'm just someone who refuses to find that acceptable.

Alas, the irritation is not quite worth it if it's still going to keep happening.
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Saidryian Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013
Learn to forgive, and to ignore posts that are filled with poison. Try to think from perspectives outside your own, and see where the other person is coming from. Are they at all right? Don't get emotional, don't be negative. Do not post while angry, and if need be, take some time away from the subject to think things over. Go relax, come back, and then post once initial feelings are out of your system.
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angelxxuan Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
sadly, this is the net, people are going to troll, ignore, bully, etc. there is the option of forcing people to use a feature which tracks everyone and those who do not use this feature are not permitted to come online, usa thought of this controlling device, a license for the net I believe it was. there are other things, but this site have wonderful staff, they can't be everywhere, but they do keep the mess down some. I tend to ignore people who are baiting me, putting me down and so forth. feeding the fuel only makes matter worse, so I have learned from the net and life in general.
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signsofortune Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013
i HATE to say this, because I am a big advocate of kindness on the internet, but unfortunately, It might be a good idea for you to take a couple of steps to protect yourself:

1. do not expose your real feelings to a public place on the internet unless it is a relatively troll-free place
a. if you do expose them, make sure to try to word everything in a way that discourages trolling

2. grow a thick internet skin.
I also used to feel very hurt when people said or did things on the internet, but eventually I learned to simply not take them seriously. At this point, if someone says something unpleasant to me, I simply ignore them, or say something flippant back
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Narwalmilk Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Student General Artist
I know what you mean.
I understand disagreements and even arguments, but when people are unkind to others without any sort of reason or without being provoked, it just makes you wonder why.
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KillerFreya Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Because they're stupid and just want the attention, no matter how negative.
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qwertywithak Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
It's the way of the world, do what I do and accept that you are a kind person and try to be as kind as you can to others.
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mylastel Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013
Ah yeah.. Internet is a nice place but like in real life, rude, arrogant, condescending & asshole people are also here. :meow: They find a better place to show their nasty side. They like to show their power over others w/ their way. :no: Really nasty. Well, you don't have to always deal w/ them. Just really a waste of time and manners. =D
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siegeonthorstadt Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013
The lack of mimics, tones, and verbalism makes the internet a place where you see peoples messages with x10 aggressiveness that they intend it to be. Mostly people are not even aggressive. We just get offended much easier by reading insults etc. Also the ability to respond gives us the illusion that we have the right to be angry at their aggressiveness, whereas we wouldnt be involved or feel threatened by the same thing on the street bcs we tend to avoid physical aggression.
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SlippyMagnus Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'll not likely be the first to say it, but I feel it needs saying regardless.
If you're looking for help, I'm here.

As for the lack of niceness of the internet, it's definitely the Anonymity. Facebook does not really get Trolls that are not under an alias "Trolled" or "Hue G Recshun" or something similar. It's because without anyone to pin things on them people who have had fear of retribution removed from them become as bad as they can be on the regular.

It doesn't help that much of the internet is children and teenagers that want to fit in with people (and most of which are cursing numbskulls, because they think they've something to prove/anger to vent and etc).

People try to be better than they are on the internet, because people don't know them, and can't prove/disprove anything about them. People lie, curse incessantly and fight because they all want to believe that no one can hurt their standings, and anyone that can is a threat. They try to take it out in any way they can (Try to get them ruffled enough to leave).

The other alternative is that they are laughing at the stupidity of other humans, and "Trolling", or agitating them enough that they begin trying to threaten them/prove they're better than them (the troll) and then jeering at the resulting chaos.

It's not gonna change. I dun plan on it. It's comforting to know that other people are aware of this though.
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KindCritic Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Student Writer
Anonymity is the REASON they act like assholes. They know they can say "omg -Lain-Otonashi her art sux" or "KindCritic she is such a bitchfuck" and no one will come out and beat the shit out of them. They are above pain. Which, and I smile wickedly as I say this, is why you have to VERBALLY DESTROY THEM. Make them AFRAID to be an asshole. Rip their testicles out of their eyesockets, gouge holes in the very fabric of their being, and then snicker about it. They're going after you? Smile sweetly and send them on a rocket sled to hell. Have fun, dahling.
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EbolaBears Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013
This is a Complaints Forum topic.
Your presentation is one of a complaint.
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PrairieLily Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
No. No it isn't.
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JericaWinters Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013
It can be easy to type stupid things online. I've said things I regret--a lot of things I wish I could take back. I think a large number of people are angry--their lives suck--and they have nowhere to vent in real life.
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FIRSTxAIDxKIT Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Professional Interface Designer
You're not very good at the internet. :icongtfoplz:
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Lain-Otonashi Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Student General Artist
Oh, well.
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FIRSTxAIDxKIT Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Professional Interface Designer
Well what?
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SlippyMagnus Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
He's saying "Let bygones be bygones".
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FIRSTxAIDxKIT Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Professional Interface Designer
:facepalm:

Inappropriate comma is inappropriate.
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SlippyMagnus Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
There wasn't a comma in that whole sentence, silly!
There were quotation marks, if that's what you meant...
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FIRSTxAIDxKIT Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Professional Interface Designer
:iconfacepalmplz:

You annoyingly replied to my post which said "Well what?" in reply to the OP's post of "Oh, well". Now, if you understand the English language, "Oh well" and "Oh, well." are two very different sentences. :pat:
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SlippyMagnus Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Ever given thought to the possibility of me trying to say what I typed?
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RunesPainter Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I know what you mean. If you have nothing nice to say, why say it? Some people are very sensitive. Unfortunately, we can't escape from such a place. It's human nature to be impulsive and make others feel bad. Intentionally and unintentionally...

The advice I can give, though very cliche, is ignore the rude/offensive comments. Sometimes when I see someone being bullied or as some call it "trolled" I shoot them a note explaining how I care. Counter rude comments with nicer ones.
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OrangeKrissy Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013
Tell that to sbkmulletman. He must be a horrible person in real life.
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Avenvia Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Student Writer
As pointed out, this is more of a complaint than help with life and will probably get moved. Good luck.

Also, grow a thicker skin. So what if people are rude? They're saying what they think without censoring it.
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Lain-Otonashi Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Student General Artist
I'm plenty pudgy, I do say so myself. Though, I can get only so tolerant. Besides, a little criticism doesn't bother me, I've made it that it doesn't. Random cheap shots is what I seem to see more in other peoples posts than my own. That is what I get peeved with.

But thanks for the kudos for my misplaced thread.
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Avenvia Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Student Writer
You might get peeved with it, but it won't stop. Best just to leave them to it and ignore them. By getting annoyed, you're only encouraging the response they probably want.
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Lain-Otonashi Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Student General Artist
It's second nature to me to get so riled up. It's kinda like seeing someone helpless get picked on in real life. And doing nothing is a little irritating. Though, I know people should stand up for themselves.
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Avenvia Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Student Writer
Is it? Someone helpless getting picked on in real life could get the crap beaten out of them; could have their relationships ruined if someone's dedicated enough.

Being called nasty things on a forum isn't really in the same league. By not helping, you're giving people a chance to develop their own thick skins; a skill which will benefit them in life.

And sometimes people just need to be called out without sugarcoating.
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Lain-Otonashi Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Student General Artist
If someones psyche isn't as strong, it could be in the same realm as getting their face bashed in, only emotional. Sure, it might benefit some, but not everyone has that capacity to resist that kind of treatment, and bounce back.

Criticism shouldn't be sugarcoated, but as far as unfounded insults; the petty stuff, those should be shutdown before they even start. Most trolls are unrelenting, and that is when I lose my cool after so much.
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Avenvia Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Student Writer
If someone's that sensitive, I honestly can't see them being that successful in life.

If you really equate having your fingernails torn out, bones broken, teeth punched out, etc, with being called a fuckwit by a fourteen year old taking a break from his six hour porn marathon, I'd question whether you've ever experienced real physical pain before.

You'll never stop people from being nasty, so if you really want to be helpful you would be better off teaching others not to be too sensitive. And trolls aren't unrelenting at all; if get off the website or do something as simple as not replying, the problem is fixed.
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Lain-Otonashi Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Student General Artist
Maladjusted maybe.

Most feel pain, it's nature, and it affects people differently. Either type can be just as damaging.

Ignoring the issue hardly makes it better. You may have moved on but someone else will suffer from annoyance.
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