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My Boyfriends Strange Brother.

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cryingcrimson-dragon Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
My boyfriends brother is, strange to say the least. Really I think he has some sort of mental disorder, though I can't guess what. I'll just start from the beginning.

When his brother was about 13(he's 15 now) he would do sexual things with his younger sister(she was 9). He would go into the bathroom with her and watch her go to the bathroom. He would "play" with her like get into sexual positions with her, and generally just touch her inappropriately.

He also eats very obnoxiously, smacking his lips VERY loud even when he is told that he is he continues.He also does other strange bodily things like rolling his neck to the point he actually injures it or licking all around his mouth in the winter until his whole mouth is chapped.

He never does his school work, he recently got a letter from the school saying that he had not turned in a single assignment all year. He also has done several things like his mother making sure he has an assignment done, and put in his binder, but the next day he just doesn't turn it in.

He is also very destructive. He carves things into the walls and interior of the car with knives. I've heard some stories about him when he was younger about him destroying things (most of them pretty valuable) for no real reason.

The thing that made me write this post was something very shocking he did.

This summer I brought my boyfriend a present home from San Francisco. It was a very cool stuffed octopus (he loves octopuses) nothing major but he really liked it.

My boyfriend told me his brother had cut the back of the octopuses head open, put some type of tube in it, and masturbated into it. His brother has done some things like this like masturbating onto other belonging or clothes of my boyfriend (they share a room) This behavior alone is very disturbing.

Really I have no idea whats wrong with him, it seems too sever to be just being a horny teenager. I'm sort of venting and also trying to see if anyone has any idea what this could be or has similar stories. I know this kid needs to see a psychologist, but I know his parents wont take him. Any ideas?
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shogun3540 Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Professional Artist
he masturbated with a stuffed octopuss..........he's a fucking lunatic, get away from the family before he rapes you, and your pic gets on sixty minutes before they find your partially decomposed body in they're basement where he has been raping your lifeless corpse...

RUN!!!! RUN FAST!!!!!
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JOVictory Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
well this seems like a problem an professional has to solve. i suggest you are nice to him and treat him well because he clearly struggles with something. i think he`ll find out of it himself but it may take years...
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Glori305 Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012
This is beyond strange.

And his parents already have to be aware of it. So they are either in denial, or are doing things that people are not aware of.

There is only one thing you can do, and that is call in the law on the sexual abuse. They will look into things, and if they find evidence of sexual abuse, and there is someone willing to press charges, he will be arrested.

That is about all you can do.
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ILoveBigCats Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That's called abuse. His parents have more serious issues than him if they think he doesn't need some professional help after KNOWING what he did to his sister. I'd turn him over to the police.
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cryingcrimson-dragon Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
I should have added that he doesn't do the sexual things with his sister anymore, it has turned into the acting out sexually in other ways, like the octopus incident.
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signsofortune Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
Listen cryingcrimson-dragon

I am going to say something that I don't even like saying

But it sounds to me like this kid is seriously disturbed and needs help ASAP.

I once went to a seminar on pedophilia before volunteering somewhere,
and at least one of the actions you have described fits the bill for someone who is likely to become a pedophile older in age. (the molestation of his sister)

I would recommend reporting what is going on. but don't tell his parents it was you who did it. report it anonymously.
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cryingcrimson-dragon Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
I would, but I have the feeling that it would tear the family apart if I did. They don't seem the type to be understanding or be able to handle something like this.
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GravitatingConundrum Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
As much as that sounds like a bad thing, it might actually need to happen for them to open their eyes and realize the seriousness of this situation. Like what others have said, if he's doing things at this age, then who knows what he will do later on. This screams all types of warnings.

Act now rather than hope things get better. As sucky as it may be with the possibility of the family falling apart, you or your boyfriend NEED to go to someone else that can do something with this situation, because based on what you've typed, all the parents are doing is putting their fingers in their ears and going "LALALALALA NOT LISTENING".
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Svataben Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
What about the little girl? Why not worry about what it is already doing to her RIGHT NOW?

She is being destroyed, and no-one is helping her.
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dorkface4 Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
If a family will not protect their daughter from sexual abuse then they deserve to be torn apart.
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monkeydoodles Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
That's why the whole family should be seeing a psychologist, so they can learn how to handle this properly. Even though the sexual abuse with his sister was in the past, report it anyway. This kid could go on to molest someone else, or worse.
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Euterpe-The-Egret Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
It doesn't matter what it will do to the family. They will be able to overcome it. What matters is that this kid gets help and stops abusing his sister so that she won't have to suffer through it anymore.

You really do need to take action.
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signsofortune Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
a note: sexual play is normal and not a psychological issue at a much younger age. but 13 is way too old for that.
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TheLightsWentOutIn99 Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Student Writer
The kid's sick.
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MechaKraken Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The brother may be crying out for help subconsciencously, because he has issues that he doesn't know how to deal with, so he acts out to cope. Like he is "testing" people to see if they will remain loyal to him even if he does these things. He may not realize what he is doing himself. It sounds like he is screaming for attention, to say the least. Doing all of those sexual things is a sign of insecurity, which he may feel about himself.

He needs to see a psychiatrist in a controlled setting. The parents may have to dump him off at a ward so he can get observed in-depth by hospital staff. The longer he lives like this without treatment, the harder it will be for him to stop doing those things.
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cryingcrimson-dragon Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Yeah I know but his parents would never take him to a psychiatrist. His dad is in the military and is under the impression that heathcare, but especially mental healthcare is for pussies.
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MechaKraken Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well then the parents are partly to blame for his behavior. Because that is what being a parent means - addressing the needs of the children. Their refusal to do anything and denial of his needs will only encourage him to keep acting out, until he gets to the point where he will no longer be able to stop even if he wanted to.

Some parents are just so damn prideful. I can see what the father would say now. He would say "There is NOTHING wrong with MY kid. Your kid is the one who's messed up, and if anyone says different I'll beat the everlasting snot outta them, until there is no one left to say different." and when someone takes the father up on his offer, and beats the snot out of him, he would say "I'm soooooo sueing you!!!!" like the pussy he probably is. Come to think of it, maybe the apple didn't fall far from the tree in this case.
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cryingcrimson-dragon Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Sounds kinda like him actually. Well these things have all been brought to his attention at one point or another, but he either denied it or blamed my boyfriend for it who was the one who always brings these things up (he tried to blame the carving things into walls and even the octopus incident on him. Saying that my boyfriend should have somehow stopped him even though he wasn't there for any of these things.) So yeah he seems to have the "there is nothing wrong with him, it's you who has the problem" mentality.
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pink-anthony Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
He needs to see a psychologist immediately. That isn't normal behaviour, and he may have a serious metal issue that no one in the family is acknowledging because they're so used to it by now.

What he has done with his sister is abuse, as everyone has already said. And the thing with the knives is scary to say the least.
Also the neck rolling and licking his lips compulsively could be tics, which many kids with tourettes and certain variations of autism develop.
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cryingcrimson-dragon Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Yeah I thought maybe autism and tourettes but the only thing is the neck rolling stopped after a while as well as the lip licking. So it doesn't seem to be a continuous thing. Autism is likely thought he has some friends and seems to interact with them fine, so that isn't conducive to autism.
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pink-anthony Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That's strange then... I don't know really, but the habits and the odd behaviours really aren't normal. He should see a mental specialist because he might just get worse and worse the older he gets.
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charcoalandchuckles Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Student General Artist
Maybe he's a sociopath? All the symptoms listed above would seem to fit the bill, with outright rule breaking and disregard for authority. Also, since you said he gets along with he friends (and people?) fine, I don't think it would be autism.
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Knightster Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
That's defo a future psychiatrist patient material right here.
Why won't his parents take him to be examined?
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cryingcrimson-dragon Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
His dad is the type that thinks mental heathcare is for pussies. Even when any of these things were brought to his attention he either brushed it off, or blamed it on someone else, most of the time my boyfriend.
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Badgercheese1994 Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Student General Artist
Ummm the inappropriate touching with his little sister raises a big red mailbox flag right there. He needs help. The thing of the octopus is also very, strange.
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Svataben Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
If he abuses his sister (and yes, what you described is abuse), you should report it to authorities.
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Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Tell your boyfriend to tell the parents what hes done with his sister. That is ABUSE. If they don't do anything I would personally go to child protection services and the police and report them. Force them to realise it.

It sounds like they're nervous and ignoring it, but I think they know he is mental.
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cryingcrimson-dragon Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
They have seen it or at least have been told about it from what my boyfriends said, but they didn't do anything.

The "touching" was more like wrestling but it always seemed to be a bit more than just horsing around. Like they would start out wrestling but they would always end up in an inappropriate position, and usually the sister would start telling him to stop but he wouldn't. My boyfriend would usually have the get him to stop.

I know he desperately needs to be evaluated, but I know his parents won't do it and if I were to bring it up they would take is as some horrible insult on there part.
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Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Stop trying to cover his tracks. Its abuse, simple as that.
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cryingcrimson-dragon Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Believe me I'm not trying to cover his tracks. I was further explaining the situation, that he isn't blatantly fondling her, but it is inappropriate all the same. More so to explain why his parents don't see it, that they pass it off as horsing around.

Also he doesn't do anything with her anymore, at least not that I've heard of. It's turned into the acting out sexually in other ways like the incident with the octopus.
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charcoalandchuckles Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Student General Artist
Not to be rude, but just because he's acting out sexually in other ways doesn't mean he couldn't prey on her again. At 15, he's developed much more physically and could easily overpower an 11 year old girl.
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Atlantech Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
sounds like a serial killer in the making, or an octopus rapist.
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He abuses his younger sister and his parents won't take him to see a psychologist, do they know about it? That's some next level child services stuff.
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cryingcrimson-dragon Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Yeah, he's done it in front of them almost, but they just ignore it.
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Euterpe-The-Egret Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Report it. Keep notes with dates and times and report it.
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