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I need some advice!!

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RPAkita Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Ok, this may seem pathetic to some but in my college class there is someone who approached me the other day and asked to see my dog character design (its a dog with robotic legs that has been the centre of my inspiration for my personal work for a good few years now).

Seems harmless enough, so I agree simply asking why. They answered 'I came up with the idea to create a story of dogs with robotic legs! And I wanted to see how you had gone about creating it'. At first I didn't know how to react, so I continued to show him, feeling a little bit aggrieved; as this was the main concept to my personal projects for the last three times it had been set, and now he is doing it.

Now the more i think about it the more and more offended I get, I really don't know what to do. I have approached my tutor and he was completely stumped by the concept. I really don't know how to react to this, I have confronted him in a seemly playful manor saying he's plagiarising (which until I see an outcome I can't really feel as I know I don't own the concept of robotic dogs, but on the same note its been the thing I do since he met me! And not a little thing either, its a story I'm making into a graphic novel, i'm making mock journals about it the works!!)

What shall I do? Please help me!
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moxiee Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
You might be worried for nothing. He might change his idea so much that it will be diffrent. What class is this?
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RPAkita Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
its an illustration course. I may well be worried for nothing. I'm just being overly sensitive.
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moxiee Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I think you are. If you're bothered by it then you should ask him what he's doing.
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RPAkita Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I'm going to, we're not in until Tuesday so I have to wait
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moxiee Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Good.
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emiliemajarian Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012   Digital Artist
When in doubt, ask Alan! If, when you guys have your projects come out, there's a massive similarity, he'll already know that you're the one who usually draws robotic dogs, and a specific one at that (even I know that and I'm sure I haven't seen as much of your work as he has). He's very fair, we had 2 people in our first year who would either just copy other people's artwork or directly just lift images off the web and claim those were theirs. We brought it up with Alan and somehow he was able to handle that sensitively for everyone, didn't tell on us who had seen the original work and reported him, while still calling them out on it. I really can't recommend talking to him highly enough :D
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RPAkita Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah, I phoned Alan today and have sent a reasonable message to the person. The person replied decently (don't I sound English). Alan knows about it and will be sensitive about it. Fortunately the person concerned was reasonable and understanding so hopefully it won't be a major issue now. ^_^
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siantjudas Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012   Digital Artist
Really? I'm making a story about a wandering space anti-hero, with a magic object and a love interest? If you can tell me that has never been done ever in the scope of the world then please do. If you think your idea is seriously so beyond original that no one has ever thought of it as well then you really do have far to go.

It's not in what the idea is, but in how you execute it.

Noting that any of us comes up with is 100% original, that's what makes us human and able to create. As humans we take what we see and know and deconstruct it and reconstruct the pieces to make new ideas.
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RPAkita Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I did say i appreciate I don't have the copyright to the idea because to be honest it is not original. I did say just that. But its not the fact he had the concept it was the way I was approached, without regard that my design is mine. He could have used a more tactful approach that actually came across better and less like he was just using my idea...
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siantjudas Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012   Digital Artist
You could've not shared it with him if that's how it came off.
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RPAkita Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah that is true but it didn't properly register until I had showed him...
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siantjudas Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012   Digital Artist
Gotta be more careful.
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KingStephenArthur Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
I would agree if it were not for the fact that they are in the same class together.

I applied your logic to a random person here on DA who said Seth MacFarlane was copying their comic they post to their personal blog...lol

But being in the same class it's really wouldn't be all that coincidental if someone stole another's idea, lol.
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siegeonthorstadt Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
Yeah by the way, I think you can actually patent or (c) collage thesis' or projects, even if not the dog itself.
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TokyoV Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
If you're worried about him taking your ideas, bring copies of your work to the post office, get them to put an official date on the envelopes, and send them to yourself. Then tell him if he rips you off, you'll sue him to hell and back.

Not sure how much of a legal defence you would actually have, but it'd be enough to scare him away from taking your ideas.
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RPAkita Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Thank you I think I may do that one today. I don't want it to get to that, hopefully Im being dramatic.
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TokyoV Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
Maybe you are, and maybe you aren't. Either way, it's never a bad idea to protect your intellectual property.
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8TwilightAngel8 Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Professional General Artist
I think you need to be honest with him, and tell him that your character is very special to you and you intend (or better yet, have already started) working on developing it further.
You should also encourage him to come up with his own designs and ideas. It is good to draw from inspirations, but you must be aware of the fact that your inspirations, whatever they may be, belong to someone else and you need to develop them extensively to make them your own, not directly copy or keep them very similar in design.

It sounds like he honestly just wants to copy you, and sadly that happens a lot in college.

I hope for the best for you :huggle: :heart: Please let me know what happens!
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RPAkita Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I'm not sure if he honestly wants to copy me, I haven't asked him in-depth about his concept (came too much as a shock). He may have done it completely innocently its just unfortunate that i'm doing something almost identical (and first)... I just don't know his intentions. Him being nearly 30 I hope he is mature enough to know better than to take others idea's, but you can never tell with some people. He is also a very confrontational person so it's hard to approach him in anyway without knowing he is going to be aggressively moaning about me behind my back (he does it about the tutors, so how am I going to be treated any different!).

I really never dreamt i'd have to deal with anything like this from people I actually know, I could have coped with it if it was some kind of DA theft....
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siegeonthorstadt Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
Ah welcome to school. World crawls with people like this. Dont worry, since he imitated your story and you have the original idea he wont be able to go much further about it as well as you can, when you both do your projects it will be quiet clear that he just imitated someone elses work in class. By the end of the year he will have had to copy other peoples works too so everyone will know about it and he will be accepted as a natural occurence. Not to mention that more people like that will spring up.

What you can do now is to just keep working. Make it more and more original. There was a nice robot dog concept in fallout games. Maybe that helps with further inspiration.
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RPAkita Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
We're in our second year of this course, and he's never noticeably 'copied' anyone else's work so it has come a quite a shock. I do believe that the concept behind his won't be as strong. But there is always that seed of doubt that edges in!

Thank you for your advise.

I have played Fallout 3, but not Vegas where that character is from. Seen some fan art of the dog though.
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siegeonthorstadt Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
Hmm.. is he actually doing the mech. dog theme or did he only ask you about it? Might be a move that has a total different ambition you know..
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RPAkita Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I haven't seen any work in progress stuff. He only approach me Two days ago, Its a really watching game Im doing. But its frustrating. Supposed friends shouldn't do this type of crap!!
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siegeonthorstadt Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
You are right
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