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HRT, cancer.. Frickin' age restriction.

:iconkasimere:
Kasimere Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
So, today after this rather icky blood test at the hospital today I was given these pills- for like estrogen replacement for my bones and skin and what not... It's the kind that doesn't give me periods cus well, I said to the doctor 'what's the point in having a period when it means nothing for me? I can't have a kiddy so why should I waste money on 'womanly products' I digress...

So, I open the leaflet- everything about it spouts shit about 'killing me' and giving me all types of cancer and shit. But all of the information is directed at people above 50.

So, what do I do? The dangers scare me but I'm nowhere near 50! So do they even apply to me? The doctor mentioned nothing about this. Should I just go to a GP? I honestly don't wanna take it until I know the risks of my own age group.

I mean, I'd rather have brittle bones and bad skin then die of cancer before I'm even 30.
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benji-0 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
If he didn't mention it, that's probably because the risks are negligible and didn't want to cause you undue worry.

...though you seem to have done that on your own.
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Atlantech Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
living increases your risk of cancer, my advice? just fucking live and stop worrying about all that shit. If you had one day left to live wouldn't you want to make the most of it?
Life sucks and we all get fucked one way or another, my health is utter shit and I've got all kinds of crap wrong with me but instead of worrying I focus on projects.
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:iconkasimere:
Kasimere Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Student Filmographer
I sense a hint of self righteousness there.
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Atlantech Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:iconhmmminterestingplz: do you now
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
"Increased risk of cancer" doesn't mean you're going to get cancer. Every effective medical treatment has risks that must be balanced against the benefits.

What are the risks associated with brittle bones? What is the actual additional cancer risk of hormone replacement therapy? What kind of cancer is risk elevated for, and how treatable is it? (Not all cancers are the same.) These and others are definitely questions you should talk over with your regular doctor so that you can make an informed decision.
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Mew-Sumomo Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student General Artist
I'd ask the doctor if anything, but chances are if there were a realistic chance of causing anything like cancer then it wouldn't have been prescribed to you. Since the warnings are for people with risk factors you don't seem to have I don't think it's worth freaking out over.

My old birth control increased my risk of blood clots... but really only if I were a smoker over age 35. :hmm:
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ShadowyEclipse Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I'll go and say what everyone else has said.

Contact doctor. If you get green light, take them.

If you feel sick, contact better doctor.
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ILoveBigCats Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Every single medication going has risks, it's just a case of how likely they are to occur. My contraceptive pill has a list of potential side effects as long as my arm, I've had none of them. If they start making you ill, then see a doctor, otherwise I wouldn't worry about it :)
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BeeSull Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
I wouldn't take it before asking my doctor about it, but that's just me. :shrug:
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:iconkasimere:
Kasimere Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
Makes sense.
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Nephenee Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
So, you do realize that eating grilled steaks, going outside, drinking water from the tap or pretty much anything you do increases your risk of cancer, right?
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:iconkasimere:
Kasimere Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
Yeah, but it's worrying... Everyone on leaflet just seems to be fatal.
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Nephenee Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
They have to put that there for fear of lawyers. :shrug: Yes, HRT has risks. But if you are this concerned you need to talk to your doctor. Make a list of questions, what ifs and concerns and bring them with you to your next appointment
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Kasimere Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
I'll have to go to the GP and not the doctor who prescribed them... It was a specialist who's appointments take months to get.
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Nephenee Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
See, that's kind of risky because, well...the GP might not know everything the specialist does or the reasons for suggesting that treatment. :( There's a reason he sent you to the specialist, and is it really fair to the GP if you're asking him things that might be out of his knowledge base?
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:iconkasimere:
Kasimere Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
Oh, this has been a rabbit run.
Different GP > Another GP > Some doctor > Ultra sound nurser > Doctors in another city > Doctors in a clinic up in the hills > Different Doctor > Specialist > GP > Specialist again.

I don't even know how I got to this point... I swear I've missed some people out.
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Nephenee Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
Yeah...I'm just gonna say you'll get your BEST answers from the prescribing doc. :thumbsup: Call his office and leave a message
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:iconkasimere:
Kasimere Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
Probably.
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RandomRobskii Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
Eh, they've got that warning on the contraceptive pill. I don't know if people who take your pills are under the same sort of watch as people on the pill, but we're always called for breast examinations because they reckon there's a link. Thing is, what if there is no link, and the numbers are higher because there are people to find it, instead of not bothering to do that quick little boob check? It might even apply to your pills. Either way, if you feel that worried about it, go see the doctor again, they should be able to sort something out, whether that's easing you of your worries, or just putting you on different meds.
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Kasimere Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
Ah, it makes sense... Does it? That makes me so relived it's unreal to know that it's on contraceptives too- Makes me feel a little more normal.

I'm gonna have to go to the general again in a few months for more tests.. I'll ask then.
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RandomRobskii Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
Yeah, it's on my pills too. It pretty much says that studies have found there might be links, but otherwise it's nothing much to worry about. Hell, if that many women can take the pill and they're mostly fine, then I think you'll be okay too. :)
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Kasimere Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
:hugs: Makes sense, this has honestly made me like 1000 x less worried.
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RandomRobskii Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
Awesome. Glad I could be of help. :huggle:
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Samiraku Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Even if there was only 1% chance of developing a cancer resulting from a pill, the manufacturer is required to mention it in potential side effect list. Usually certain type of estrogen replacement is directed for those over 50, but doesn't mean that it cannot be taken by younger. And like others have already said here: speak to your doctor, an endocrinologist if possible.
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Kasimere Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
At least this is the best reply I've gotten so far, thanks... I'll try to contact the latter.
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Sirius-910024 Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
'Increases risk for cancer' is not the same thing as 'causes cancer'.

You're 17 and have don't have the risk factors someone >=50 would. Take the damn pills and ask the doctor. Taking them until you see the doctor won't give you cancer, nor will taking them period.
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Kasimere Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
I know I don't have all the same risk factors... But ya'know 13 year olds aren't supposed to go through the menopause either... So who knows?
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TheNecco Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student General Artist
If you know you aren't going to have kids, and you don't want a period, why don't you just permanently solve the problem?
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:iconkasimere:
Kasimere Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
.... What?
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TheNecco Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student General Artist
I misread one of your statements I guess. When you said you can't have kids, I thought you meant you permanently cannot, not just because of the pills
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:iconkasimere:
Kasimere Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
I did mean I can't permanently... I just don't get what the hell you meant?
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:iconthenecco:
TheNecco Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student General Artist
Have your tubes tied? It's less invasive than taking out your uteris
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:iconkasimere:
Kasimere Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
... Alright.
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:iconthenecco:
TheNecco Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student General Artist
Okay then dont
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Fisherella Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
I never listen to doctors. They make their living on others' suffering and most of what they do just makes people sicker. Healthy food/sleep/water are the way to go.
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:iconkasimere:
Kasimere Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
Course, dear.
Thing is, I didn't pay for them to help me... We've got free health care.
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Fisherella Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Professional General Artist
Someone pays them. Doesn't matter if it's you, or the gov/insurance company. (same thing really) Remember, doctors have to torture animals to get through medical school.
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Knightster Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
To be honest, I don't think artist community is the best place to ask for medical advice :/
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:iconkasimere:
Kasimere Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
Aye, I was hoping I'd find someone who knows about this shit... They're hard to find. Since normally someone always seems to know what to do within these forums.
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Knightster Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
Not everyone who sounds like they know their shit is genuine. Especially online.
If you're that bothered by potential side effects then contact the place you got your
medicine from, that would be the best bet.
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:iconkasimere:
Kasimere Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
I'll contact the surgery more so than the general hospital... But I got them today and need to start taking them, I'm just worried.
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Camera-wielding-fool Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
........call your friggin doctor and ask?? sheesh.
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Kasimere Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
My doctor isn't exactly the one who gave me the pills- it was a doctor at the hospital who took me around 3 months to get a hold of.

Hence the suggestion of getting in contact with the gp.
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Camera-wielding-fool Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
so call the gp. deviantART ain't gonna be able to tell you about these pills. :roll: if it concerns you that much, was there really much of a question of whether or not you should call somebody and ask?
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:iconkasimere:
Kasimere Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
So you're basically saying I should go with my own suggestion, thank you dear- huge help.
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Camera-wielding-fool Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:aww: Anytime, sugarbuns.
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nicetints Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I'm not so sure the hospital would give you cancerous pills knowing it would give you cancerous cancer
but I could be wrong
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:iconkasimere:
Kasimere Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
Well, I read the leaflet and that's what it says...

Ovarian cancer, breast cancer, cancer of the womb lining along with blood clots. But like I said, it's written with the statistics of 50 year olds.. I want to know what it does to 17 year olds.
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nicetints Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Digital Artist
So ask a professional.
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:iconkasimere:
Kasimere Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
That was an elongated way to agree with a suggestion within the original post, thanks.
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