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Feminists are hypocrites.

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TheAntagonisticOne Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2013
Yes, there are some men who are feminists but they are equally as silly and unthinking as the female feminists. It just so happens that there are more female feminists. If we look up the word "feminism" in the dictionary we find the following: "the doctrine advocating social, political, and all other rights of women equal to those of men." Now that's all fine and dandy. By that definition I think MOST people would be for "feminism" but the problem lies in the baggage attached to the idea of feminism. Some of the core "values" of feminism state that men are inherently bad or evil and that women are simply the oppressed victims. It may be the case that some men are bad or evil. It may even be the case that MOST men are bad or evil. Just because most men are bad or evil doesn't mean that most women are therefore good. Feminists seem to have the idea that women shouldn't just have equal rights to men but have reverence ABOVE men. They think that shirts that say "boys are dumb, throw rocks at them" is good and empowering, even egalitarian. What they're really after isn't equality in rights. It's revenge. You KNOW they would pitch a fit if there was a shirt that said "girls are dumb, throw rocks at them" and claim that it was inciting hate and prejudice. In fact, it would be inciting hate and prejudice but they fail to see that in themselves when the genders are reversed and males are the victims. Furthermore in addition to wanting their "revenge" they also want the standards to be LOWER just to suit those who do not feel like meeting the high standards. For example, female fire fighters don't have to lift as much weight as male ones do. This is clearly discrimination. If a male couldn't lift the male amount he still would not be hired for being able to lift the female amount simply because he is male. So this isn't just about having "equal rights" it's about having SPECIAL rights. They want people to make exceptions for them.

Then we look at something like sexuality. They will call a womanizing man a pig but they will say that a loose woman is "independent" and "empowered" etc. Again, they're wanting to be held in reverence ABOVE men. Many will say that men being slutty is more socially acceptable but they themselves do not accept it. It's really a double standard on the part of the feminist as well. They're being no better than the male chauvinist. I've been told by feminists that they're not wanting to be "just as bad as men" but they're "redefining what's bad". That is completely absurd. They're holding men to a higher standard than themselves and still wanting to be treated "equally". Part of being treated equally is being held to the same standards. It's the fact that women have been held to lower standards that has caused their "oppression" over the centuries.

Then there are specific issues like not only being slutty but dressing slutty. A feminist will claim that she should be able to dress like a slut and at the same time not be perceived so. Well this would be all good and reasonable if it weren't for the fact that the women themselves REINFORCE the slutty stereotype themselves! If none of the women who dressed slutty acted slutty there would be no connection to the two but because the women are purposely dressing to attract that kind of male attention they are inevitably going to get it. It's like saying "just because I wear a police uniform doesn't mean I'm a police officer". Surely they are aware of what message they're sending to people by their clothes and by the social association with them. They are not really so dumb that they don't realize these things. They just want CERTAIN male attention. If an unattractive man asks her for sex she may become angry and give him a lecture or maybe even slap him. If an attractive man asks her for sex she may entertain the idea. This is yet another double standard in their so called "logic".

Feminists will also say that stripping, pole dancing and prostitution are "empowering" to women. Yet what they fail to realize is that they are actually just objectifying themselves and playing right into the hands of sexist males who think they are worth nothing more than their bodies. Sure, the women may be getting money for such lewd acts but at what cost to the social view of women over all? Are they not betraying their sisters who wish to be seen as more? If most women were scientists and philosophers then the view that women are only worth the sexual appeal of their bodies would be seen as a completely ridiculous and unfounded accusation. However, because there are more female strippers, pole dancers and prostitutes than scientists BY FAR the view has some substantiation to it's claim in the eyes of the masses.

Then we come to the idea of abortion. Men are expected to be responsible for the children they create whether they want them or not. Women on the other hand have the option to discard the child in a trashbin. This surely shows that women who want abortions are less responsible. Now you may be saying "what about rape?" Well, what about the men who are raped? Should they have the option to FORCE a female rapist to have an abortion? It seems like he should on the grounds that it wasn't his choice but feminists will then cry out "No! It's my body and my choice!" Again... a double standard.
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:iconghibli92:
ghibli92 Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
u dropped ur fedora buddy
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:iconartisticaxis:
ArtisticAxis Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2013
:lol:
I love how this has almost 700 replies.
Look what happens when you have such contrasting opinions.
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:icontheantagonisticone:
TheAntagonisticOne Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2013
Yep. I think it would have had less replies if I had just told the solution to feminist's problems in the OP though.
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:iconartisticaxis:
ArtisticAxis Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2013
Naw, it wouldn't have mattered regardless.
Folk 'round here are rather opinionated.
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:iconwizardofunseen:
WizardOfUnseen Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
tl;dr, badly needed.
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:icontheantagonisticone:
TheAntagonisticOne Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2013
tl;dr=women are hurting themselves and their cause by being hypocritical and not trying to do their best in life.
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:iconwizardofunseen:
WizardOfUnseen Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Nobody is perfect. Stop expecting that.
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:icontheantagonisticone:
TheAntagonisticOne Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2013
Does that mean that perfection shouldn't be striven for?
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:iconwizardofunseen:
WizardOfUnseen Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, but you must always be willing to accept human fallibility. Hypocrisy is something that everyone can be accused of. Though I am not a woman, as someone who is in a relationship and has woman friends, I can assure you that most women are not the fanatic that you paint them to be. Crazy people will always be there. You have to look at the larger picture.
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:icontheantagonisticone:
TheAntagonisticOne Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2013
I think it's best to avoid hypocrisy whenever possible.
Yeah, this is more about "feminazis" rather than plain old feminists.
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:iconwizardofunseen:
WizardOfUnseen Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Exactly.
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:icondinysrawr:
dinysrawr Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Text wall :|

I really want to read this but I can't >.>
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witwitch Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2013  Student Writer
Basically he is pissed off because, according to him, men who sleep around are pigs, women who sleep around are independent; women who get abortions are irresponsible; he's pissed off that women want to dress "slutty" without expecting to be raped; feminists are not after equal rights, just revenge; strippers are objectifying women.
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:iconexoticjackal:
ExoticJackal Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2013  Hobbyist
Same here. I wanted to see why it was so popular, saw the giant text wall, went NOPE!
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:iconwizardofunseen:
WizardOfUnseen Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I feel thy pain.
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:iconpuppychi:
Puppychi Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013
I would agree with you that women can often be chauvinistic, but the things you are describing have nothing to do with feminism. Feminism is trying to make the female gender of equal status as the male gender. If it is much beyond that, let me put it this way: Honey, it's not feminism. It's just sexism.
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:icontheantagonisticone:
TheAntagonisticOne Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013
Yes but they still parade around wearing a feminism badge and say they do it because they're feminist.
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:iconpuppychi:
Puppychi Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013
But, they are mistaken. That isn't feminism, and they are just using it to cover up their chauvinism. Just because someone says something doesn't make it true, and I'm sure you are smart enough to know that.
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:icontheantagonisticone:
TheAntagonisticOne Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013
Yes, I do know that but they don't.
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:iconpuppychi:
Puppychi Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013
Now you aren't making sense. Care to elaborate, please?
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:icontheantagonisticone:
TheAntagonisticOne Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013
I know that just because they call themselves feminists doesn't mean they're actually for the real goals of feminism but they don't realize that they're just being sexist and using feminism as a shield to justify their behavior.
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:iconpuppychi:
Puppychi Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2013
Ok, thank you for clarifying. What I'm getting at is that you are blaming the incorrect group of people for the things you mentioned.
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:icontheantagonisticone:
TheAntagonisticOne Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2013
You're right.
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:iconpsowill:
PSOWILL Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013
:lol: Um anyone can wear a label trying bastardize a cause. All it really means they're just cowards who can't speak the truth.
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:iconfuyuko7:
Fuyuko7 Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
"Women on the other hand have the option to discard the child in a trashbin. This surely shows that women who want abortions are less responsible."

I find that men have the choice of running away from responsibility (of taking care of the baby)
While women have either the choice of taking care of the baby once it's born, or getting a abortion and being frowned upon.
Which isn't fair...
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:iconpsowill:
PSOWILL Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013
:iconmauryplz: That's what I here for.
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:iconfuyuko7:
Fuyuko7 Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
O_o
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:iconpsowill:
PSOWILL Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013
:iconmauryplz: and yes, you are the father.
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:iconfuyuko7:
Fuyuko7 Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
I'm not a guy
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:iconpsowill:
PSOWILL Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013
:iconmauryplz: you wouldn't be the first one to tell me that.
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:iconfuyuko7:
Fuyuko7 Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
:sleepy:
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:iconpsowill:
PSOWILL Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013
:iconjerryplz: Next on Springer.
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:icontheantagonisticone:
TheAntagonisticOne Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013
You think it isn't frowned upon when a man runs away from his family?
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:iconfuyuko7:
Fuyuko7 Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Well nobody would know (unless he tells them)
But with a pregnant woman it's more obvious
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:icontheantagonisticone:
TheAntagonisticOne Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013
What she tells people and pretends that it was voluntary?
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:iconfuyuko7:
Fuyuko7 Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
:shrug:
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:iconvanhir:
Vanhir Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
...Could you summarize that wall of text for me? I don't have four hours free.
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:icontheantagonisticone:
TheAntagonisticOne Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013
Basically women's behavior is hurting them socially by making bad impressions and perpetuating negative stereotypes instead of fighting against them.
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:iconvanhir:
Vanhir Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Ohh, it's one of those threads.
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:iconyrke:
Yrke Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2013  Student
Way to generalize. What do you think the actual feminists are doing?
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:icontheantagonisticone:
TheAntagonisticOne Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2013
The actual feminists are trying to gain social equality by being good examples and fighting for equality in the legal sense by making sure laws are fair.
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Yrke Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2013  Student
Eeeexactly. Good job.
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ensoul Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013  Professional General Artist
That would be a feminazi. This being the internet, you're going to run into those
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:icontheantagonisticone:
TheAntagonisticOne Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013
Those people exist in real life too though.
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ensoul Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013  Professional General Artist
True. But your description sounds like the extremists.. I would say most reasonable people might be considered feminists under the right definition (as you mentioned, wanting equal treatment for men and women). The stuff you're complaining about are the crazy ones, and you run into them more on the internet if only because of the anonymity.
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:icontheantagonisticone:
TheAntagonisticOne Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013
Yes, that is true also.
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MelodyMoose Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What you described sounds like one huge caricature you saw on tv.
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:icontheantagonisticone:
TheAntagonisticOne Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2013
I wish it was.
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:iconherbaldrink:
HerbalDrink Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2013
I drew a cartoon where someone was getting crushed under a boot called "Oppression".

He was thinking "I wanna be the one wearing the boot."
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:icontheantagonisticone:
TheAntagonisticOne Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2013
A very good metaphor!
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