Most of the time I get called a troll for voicing my opinion in a very aggressive manner. not ALL CAPS RAGE type, but the, "You fucking jizz-munchers can't use your own brain, huh? You fucking moron." type.
=angelishi Feb 24, 2013 Hobbyist General Artist I don't understand why you seem to support anorexia, she also looks high (more female drug abuse? You really hate your characters and women.) It looks like she has a boner, did your brain try to trick you into showcasing your true nature? Also, why would you call your watchers pervs when you're the one drawing this to begin with, perv?
*Kiwi-Punch Feb 24, 2013 Student Digital Artist You have no idea how to be constructive, do you? What a shame...
=angelishi Feb 24, 2013 Hobbyist General Artist Oh, I do. But that's wasted on someone who'll just respond with "Be glad I read your critique!" Besides, I don't believe in holding people's hand when it comes to art.
I tell you what is wrong because your lack of skill and knowledge is incapable of letting you know your own flaws, but once I've pointed it out, it is entirely up to you to figure out a way to fix them.
Of course, you never will. You haven't improved a single bit.
*Kiwi-Punch Feb 24, 2013 Student Digital Artist To say I have not improved a single bit is a lie. An outright lie. I have improved ten fold since I joined this damn site. And yes, I can fix the flaws in my work. However, it's up to you to stop being a bitch and critique properly.
Perhaps this calls for a private discussion on WHY you choose to be a bitch and not helpful in the least.
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LMFAOOOO i've seen angelishi over the years and she's abrasive as fuck and all that, but you got wrecked
That's fine, and I will accept your feedback as it is, but please, try to sound more like you're trying to help rather than trying to get on my nerves. This is not in any way constructive. See, if it were constructive, you would be pointing out flaws, but at the same time, you would be encouraging me, pointing out things I could use to improve the piece. This just comes across as blatantly insulting to me, therefore, until I receive CONSTRUCTIVE criticism from you (i.e. no insulting, bashing, etc, but rather pointing the flaws out while being helpful), I cannot take this advice from you seriously. Stop with the insults, and look at THE PIECE ITSELF rather than taking cheap digs at me.
I've never really seen your stuff before. But as for constructive crit ( and I know that is not what this thread is about, but I happen to see this comment string and I noticed something)~ I think you're stuff could improve significantly in a short period of time with a few anatomy tweaks. I know you want to draw in a more cartoony style, which is fine and lots of people do it, but sometimes you have to know a few laws of anatomy in order to break them. So, just in that one pic in this thread, the idea you want to get across is totally there, but I noticed the breasts in many of your drawings look a bit static in shape. A breast is kind of like a sac hanging from the rib cage. Larger breasts have a weight to them. So the overall shape of them are usually more like a tear drop than a sphere or oval. Some cartoony manga breaks this rules sometimes and is by no means natural, but the decent looking stuff still has some of this principle. I took that drawing above and roughly sketched what I mean. I didn't have more than a few minutes, so I didn't address too much of the other anatomy, just what I needed to start to make sense of it: [link]
so even a small thing like a slight adjustment on breast shape can make a big difference. And from the base of real anatomy, you can make them larger or smaller or whatever you like
I get what you're saying, and yeah, I'll be sure to watch the way I draw breasts from now on. I have been working on improving a lot lately, and a couple of days spent on hands helped me quite a bit already.
Though I can see lots of mistake, or places in my art where I need to improve, and I always try to learn and study. I don't have a luxury right now to go to an art school, but I try on my own. That's one of the great things about art. We can always get better so long as we dedicate ourselves to it, challenge ourselves and never give up. It's also good to keep an open mind . Good luck with your comic.
Yeah, I didn't really present the point I was trying to make quite eloquently. It was pretty immature. lmfao
It blows my mind that you made a complaint about 'wussies who deactivate' when you get so reactive and defensive, to the point where you place someone's comment as spam. Angelishi was kicking up shit; when people do that, just defuse the whole thing or ignore the comment all together.
As for constructive criticism, I'd stop using the blending tool; blending the colours with only using the brush creates the gradation of colour, and looks far better than smearing them together. I'd compare it to using a kleenex or the overuse of a blending tool while making pencil drawings. Same with using copics; use the colours at hand to blend- it's better than using the blending copic- no gradation. Are you using GIMP? I'd advise using Paint Tool SAI. Open Canvas is basic as fuck, but it can produce some neat effects if you fool around with it enough. Anything's better than GIMP, hahaha
My anatomy is shit, so I can't really give that much tips. There's far better artists on here that can advise you about it. The stomach, hips, and how they connect are pretty wonky. I'd advise to go on posemaniacs.com and practice with their poses. There needs to be a further distinction between the head and neck. When I'm drawing, I usually hold my drawing up to the light to emulate a mirror image; it helps a ton with making sure the eyes, mouth, and nose are symetrical, and that the facial expression matches the position of the face. All you have to do with digital art is to flip it horizontally; you can usually find it under the layers tab, or whatever you're used to on the programme that you use.
Thank you for your advice. I will definitely try out new styles of shading. And, I just installed Paint Tool SAI but haven't used it. Is it better than Photoshop for the effects I wanted to achieve? Again, thanks for your advice. I will look into my shading as soon as possible.
Instead of dealing with Angelishi any further, I decided to block her. I honestly don't think I can win with her, regardless of how good at art I become. That's just the way she is.
All the programs work essentially the same. If you want to try out new types of shading, either try Illustrator or Inkscape or download loads of brushes for Photoshop. Or even try Painter. If any program works different than Photoshop/Paint Tool Sai/Gimp/etc, Painter does. A different program is not that going to assist in effects you want to achieve necessarily though. That's really about learning how the programs can benefit you.
Well, for now, I want to get a comic-book style of shading for when I work on some practice comics, as well as some comic concepts and such. I honestly don't think rushing into Calamity without comic making experience is going to help things, so I am holding off on the project until I get some practice in.
Comic-book style shading is incredibly vague. The fact of the matter is that you can do any kind of shading with a comic book. You'd have to give me a visual example or more of an explanation in order for me to understand what you're going for exactly.
I think you came here wanting to appear like you were complaining, when you really just wanted to promote your comic So I'm going to come here appearing like I'm going to comment, but I'm just going to art whore. ENJOY
that isnt my art you stupid bitch, its by somebody else but i like sharing awesome art on threads that dnt matter so if you dont like it then why do you keep paying attention to it? these peoples talents are much achieving then yours, all you do is post shitty photos of yourself, concieted slut