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January 22, 2013
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Fucking hell!

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Svataben Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You know what I hate?

I hate people's who go around sounding relatively sane most of the time, and people listen to them, but something feels off to me.
Turns out I'm fucking right. I hate being so right. Bitch, I hate you!


Tl;dr: Signature. :stare: getting drunk and then raped is totally comparable to being friendzoned. :stare:
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namenotrequired Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2013  Student Interface Designer
:lock: flamebait.
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wolfclaw97 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
At the top is a very vague description of a situation and at the bottom of rape... Anyone see a plausible connection here?
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Reicheru-Ketsueki Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2013  Hobbyist Filmographer
how did this randomly turn into rape....
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I think you're mistaking a demonstration of reductio ad absurdum intended to expose a double standard for a statement of actual opinion.
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:iconjeysie:
Jeysie Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I shouldn't be surprised you turned out to be the person in this thread that actually got it.

(If you ever catch me complaining too loudly about the crazies in Politics, smack me and remind me of this thread.)
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Koyukuk Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh I am so glad I avoided that thread. :stare:
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Debra-Marie Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
People shouldn't get drunk, period. Its dangerous to others around them, and it puts yourself at risk. (Just think about all the drunk driving accidents that happen per year...) That being said......there is no excuse for rape. Not sure what how friendzoning turned into rape though...seems kind of random to me.
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CherylBlanche Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013
Newsflash: [link]
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Vel-drawings Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Girls should know how the world works (we weren't born yesterday)... specially that sometimes the boys are drunk too...
Drunk= very stupid decision= deal with it.
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Sapphire-Ashesx Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013
Are you a friend of ~The-Vibeke by any chance?
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:iconvel-drawings:
Vel-drawings Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I don't know this person
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Sapphire-Ashesx Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013
K.
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Lovely-Words Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
So you're saying we should teach people "don't get raped" rather than "Don't be a disgusting excuse for a human being and don't rape people". I don't care how drunk someone is. It's not okay to rape them and it certainly isn't their fault that some abhorrent piece of shit decided it was okay to rape them.
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Vel-drawings Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
If a guy gets drunk and wakes up next to a woman that he doesn't know and doesn't remember.... then she raped him?
then the same woman wakes up feeling the same as him... she instantly thinks she got raped.

It's not ok to rape someone, it's the most awefull thing a person can do to one another, but sometimes you get drunk and end up in a situation that you don't like because you got drunk... there is not body to blame... you just need to deal with it and move on.

I'm not talking about rape in general here, not about men punting pills on drinks.... I'm just talking about a girl that got drunk, while drunk she was awake and moving.
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Lovely-Words Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
there is not body to blame... </>

The rapist is to blame. Male or female they made the decision to rape. Is it the victim's fault they got mugged or killed. Why should this be any different? We teach people to not do those things, why not teach them not to rape?
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Vel-drawings Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The world is an ugly and unfair place... people need to know this, If I know that drinking to some extend will put me in danger than I wouldn't do it.... I'm well aware of those gays.
If I chose to passe out in some random club, than I take my chances... It's like standing in the middle of the street with cars expecting not to get hit... you take the risk.
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Lovely-Words Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That doesn't answer any of the questions I presented. I don't care if I'm walking around Time Square stark naked and blackout drunk. No one gets to rape under any circumstances and saying things like "don't get raped" is really just telling people to make sure it happens to someone else.
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Vel-drawings Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yep I want people to get rape... like really?
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Lovely-Words Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
No, but you're shifting blame from the rapist to the victim.
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witwitch Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Student Writer
People should be able to cut loose and have fun without worrying about being violated.

Aside from that, what you're suggesting is a very negative view on men. Men have brains. They are capable of respecting their fellow human beings and, like, not raping them.

Men are not sharks drawn to meat.
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Vel-drawings Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
like women get drunk men do too... you said both have brains... so both need to take full responsibility over their actions, saying that the man needs to take full responsibility for a women that is drunk when he is also drunk is stupid...
women are also sharks drawn to meat....the problem is that they regret it and call it rape then start to look for someone to blame for their own actions, instead of taking their own responsibility.
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witwitch Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Student Writer
He is only responsible for his actions.

Being drunk in and of itself does not guarantee rape, so the woman is only responsible for the fact that she is drunk and probably trying to have a good time.

The rape is completely up to the one doing the rape, whether that is a man or even another woman.

Hell, even men can be raped. Women are not the only ones.
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divine--apathia Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
As I said:


Telling someone that they shouldn't do X doesn't prevent rape.
Telling someone that they shouldn't do X just puts them ahead of the pack.

As they say, 'Antelope do not need to be very fast... they only need to be faster than the slowest Antelope.' :S
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Vel-drawings Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
If a women is drunk she needs to know that she might do something stupid during that time... so if she does it... she needs to be aware that she was the one who put herself into that situation and no blame people around her for it.
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divine--apathia Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Teaching women not to do something bad doesn't stop rape... it just means that the man will take advantage of someone else. If all women stopped drinking, it'd mean that men would prey on the sick and the elderly.

Also, saying that the rapist is not to blame for what he did is very disrespectful, demeaning and sexist to men. Saying a man 'can't help himself' or that 'she put herself in that situation' implies that men can't control themselves. It implies that men are creatures of base instinct and no morals.

It's a dangerous attitude that harms both females and males.
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Vel-drawings Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
women when drunk make the same decisions as man sometimes and end up having sex with some random dude and call it rape when it's not. women need to aware of it, that's all , not always call it rape.

once I got drunk and I found some guy very attractive and ended up doing something I wouldn't have done while sober... it was my fault not his... I regret it a little... but I put myself into it and I need to deal with that's all... didn't think about it too much and moved on :)
that is that kind of situation I'm talking about.

I shared too much and I'm tired of it ^^
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divine--apathia Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
That's not what happens to every girl who gets drunk and is raped.
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LoboSabio Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013
That sound you just heard was me smacking my forehead.
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Vel-drawings Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
ouch
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fantasylover103 Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Well, I don't know what this is about, but I'll try responding anyway.

I really hate when that happens too. I also hate when I try saying what I think
but I get cut off.
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Neo-Kaiser Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013
Wow, did that thread really get that bad?
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LoboSabio Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013
That...that quote caused my brain to lock up. What. The. Hell? A few minutes thought would tell you how bad that logic is. Did they even bother to think?
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GoGo-T-W Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013   Traditional Artist
vilify vilify vilify vilify vilify vilify vilify vilify vilify vilify vilify vilify vilify vilify vilify vilify vilify vilify

I think this words means something different than I think it means. It's starting to annoy me more than "friendzone".
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:iconjeysie:
Jeysie Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Definition of VILIFY
1: to lower in estimation or importance
2: to utter slanderous and abusive statements against : defame
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GoGo-T-W Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013   Traditional Artist
Yeah, I managed to google it on my own.
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MurphysDinnerParty Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It seems in this situation a lot of people think they know it all and instead of trying to learn something, there is a constant pissing war to see who can outdo the other;
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divine--apathia Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Telling someone that they shouldn't do X doesn't prevent rape.
Telling someone that they shouldn't do X just puts them ahead of the pack.

As they say, 'Antelope do not need to be very fast... they only need to be faster than the slowest Antelope.' :S
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phoenixleo Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013
Happens differently for uhh..buffalloo (whatever those bull things are called :C) thingies in the Savannah.
The weak kid was attacked by a lion and was almost going to be eaten as it was slow and the adults left. But then they all charged and whooshed away the lion and protected the weak. \o\
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UnrehearsedSplendour Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Professional General Artist
This is getting more entertaining. :popcorn:
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:iconsvataben:
Svataben Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Agreed!

I hate that I have to go to bed soon.
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UnrehearsedSplendour Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Professional General Artist
:lol:

Same here! I guess you'll have the joy of waking up to find what state your thread will be in tomorrow. It could be in a bigger mess than it is now.
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Svataben Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm hoping that Vibeke person makes an appearance!

Anyway, a good night to you and to everyone!
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UnrehearsedSplendour Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Professional General Artist
I'm sure they will! :la:

OK good night!! Have a good sleep.
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Toxicotic Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013
Oh no, I hope she doesn't text wall everyone to death. :(

I occasionally see negative comments about =Jeysie, but I rarely venture into the Politics forum to actually see what's so bad about her. But this is certainly batshit. :lol:

And now I eagerly await to be text walled to death.
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AnAliasUnknown Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013
From what I've seen of her, I don't always disagree with what she says, but I feel like she's the really extremist left person. Which to me, isn't necessarily better than the really extremist right person. It's always a "Well, if only the Republicans were more reasonable, because all of the Democrats were being totally reasonable," etc.
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Toxicotic Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013
I've seen some of her comments in the past and I don't always disagree with her, either, but I think you're right about her being extremist left.

But mostly I've just seen comments from people that call her daft, some have said she makes mountainous, dramatic replies out of small, tame comments like all the time, and she apparently argued with some guy's friends that she believes he doesn't have a job and his grandfather's death is a conspiracy or something. :paranoid:
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theGman0 Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist
Sad part is that most of it is true.
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:iconsvataben:
Svataben Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
The buzz-word of the day is 'strawman'.

Anyway, I'm being accused of taking her remark out of context, even though I link to where she made it. Precious! :lol:
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Toxicotic Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013
I like how she pulls the "I was just trolling lol" card even though she keeps defending her position. And why would she troll after saying she's been having a rough time in the forums anyway? :B
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iroNoNiji Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
No it obviously isn't comparable. You _do_ have the right to complain about being friendzoned. That is so much worse than rape.
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