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:iconpink-anthony:
pink-anthony Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm doing a course at the moment. Computer Applications and Office Skills. Focusing on Microsoft Office programs, office administration skills and that sort of thing.

Anyway, the final module of the course is 4 weeks of work experience. The recruitment company that we're doing the course with refuse to help or give us any information about companies that might be hiring or willing to take on work experience people.

If we don't get work experience, we are thrown off the course. And then spend the month not being paid and fighting with the welfare system to get some kind of payment to pay rent and bills and you know, live.

I've tried 23 places in the last 3 weeks. 8 have gotten back to me to say "lol no sarry" and the rest haven't bothered to even reply.

Will be living in a box this time next month. Yep.
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:iconnicolettethestrange:
Nicolettethestrange Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
I experienced the exact same thing when was I completing a course two years ago and it was horrible =(. I had to find and secure my own practicum and It took me a year to eventually find two places who were willing to take me on to do so. The two places who accepted me were in really dodgy parts of town too :/. I know it might sound far fetched but perhaps if you can suss out any places looking to hire in dodgy locations maybe you might be able to secure something with them? They'd most likely be desperate to take someone on, let alone have someone working temporarily for free :shrug:. That being said best of luck to you and I hope someone takes you on soon!
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:iconpink-anthony:
pink-anthony Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh man I've even done that. There are fair dodgy parts of this city and even those kind of places won't take me. :(
Thank you though!!
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:iconpatt-ytto:
Patt-Ytto Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
Well damn i got no witty response to this. That sucks.
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:iconpink-anthony:
pink-anthony Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah it really does. :(
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Groovy-Guy Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
That is ridiculous. I would report to the board of education about that.
Do you happen to know any past pupils who have taken the course who might be able to give a had?
Abuse family contacts, get aunts and cousins and all to all friends or work associates if they know anyone who would be willing to give you a placement. You never know you could end up somewhere you never would have pictured.
Hang in there =)
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:iconpink-anthony:
pink-anthony Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That's the thing, it's a FÁS course, and it's the first time this one has been run. And also, I live in Galway now, but all of my "contacts" are in Clare, so I'm fucked either way.
Thank you. :)
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:icongroovy-guy:
Groovy-Guy Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
Well can't you go to Clare for the week, are they being silly and limiting the area in which you can look for jobs?
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:iconpink-anthony:
pink-anthony Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Limiting the area, except for "special cases". Basically the one guy who moved down here from Sligo just for the course.
And because I've lived her independently for over a year, I'm not a special circumstance.
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:icongroovy-guy:
Groovy-Guy Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
I'm sorry but they are ridiculous. How are they expecting people to get anything at all or is it their plan to weed people off the course? That is actually harder than getting a job, where you have the freedom to go where you want.
Would you be able to get experience in Clare? I'd say if someone could offer you a place in Clare, make an argument with your tutors that there's garunteed opportunities there and they should be limiting you.
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:iconkitsumekat:
kitsumekat Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
That's when you harass the company.
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:iconpink-anthony:
pink-anthony Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
:thumbsup:
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:iconkitsumekat:
kitsumekat Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
Or file a complaint against them.
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:iconjuliabohemian:
Juliabohemian Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
Most people can't find jobs right now.

Didn't they supply you with a list of potential businesses? Surely they've worked with others in the past.
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:iconpink-anthony:
pink-anthony Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
We asked for it, but they said because we're "not registered with the recruitment company" (even though we've spent the last 5 months working in their building), they won't give us a list of hiring businesses. So instead we have to piss into the wind and hope somewhere haaaaaappens to need the staff.
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:iconjuliabohemian:
Juliabohemian Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
That's ridiculous, especially in this economy.
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:icon3wyl:
3wyl Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Good luck. :hmm:

Can't say I know what to say to that, really, other than to chase them up and.. yeah. =/
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:iconpink-anthony:
pink-anthony Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you. :)
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:iconfullmetal-animator:
Fullmetal-Animator Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Professional Filmographer
I hear the docks in Galway has some quality steel containers. Styrofoam should help with the insulation.

Joking aside, yeah that sucks. Hope it turns around.
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:iconpink-anthony:
pink-anthony Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'll head down the docks baaaai!

Haha thank you. :)
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:iconfullmetal-animator:
Fullmetal-Animator Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Professional Filmographer
:D
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:iconrandomrobskii:
RandomRobskii Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Student Filmographer
Have you tried phoning the rest back/going in there personally to check it up?
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:iconpink-anthony:
pink-anthony Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yep. At which point the majority of places awkwardly pretend that they haven't received my C.V or their H.R Manager is "out".
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:iconrandomrobskii:
RandomRobskii Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Student Filmographer
'Oh, you've not received my C.V? In that case, HERE IT IS AGAIN.' :meow:

If all goes to pot, come to Cardiff! We look after the homeless. :nod:
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:iconpink-anthony:
pink-anthony Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm so tempted! Haha.
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:iconrandomrobskii:
RandomRobskii Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Student Filmographer
This might sound like a shot in the dark, but what about places that you might not even think of that aren't solely office based? There'll normally be an admin section in most places, right? Have you tried schools, or small companies, etc?
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starrypawz Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Ugh, I know how that is. When I was at college I had to do work experience and the first time I had to find my own placement, and it took forever. Second time I ended up just doing it 'in house' as it were, but I was doing animal care so that worked out.

I ended up narrowly avoiding one of those 'workfare' placements. Where it was a case of 'Work in a supermarket for a month, don't get paid, sit on a till all day and do a full working week so we can save money but we're not going to hire you afterwards'.
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:iconpink-anthony:
pink-anthony Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
The people who have experience are being offered a position after that. Nowhere even wants to take us on for free work. :nirvana:

At least you got yours! :D
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starrypawz Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah that's the crux of it, the fun 'if you don't have experience we won't take you but you need experience to get anywhere'
(Like even applying for basic retail work they expect you to have in some cases several years of experience just to do stuff like stack shelves)
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:iconself-epidemic:
Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Go to your job centre, and complain about where you're working.
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:iconpink-anthony:
pink-anthony Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Two people have tried getting in contact with the job centre that run the course, and they either won't reply to them, or just tell them that they "should try harder". One girl had contacted 80 businesses at that point.

They expect us to find work but won't ever give us the help to do so. Vicious circle.
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:iconself-epidemic:
Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
You aren't doing it right, you need to be in tears and shit :P
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:iconpink-anthony:
pink-anthony Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That's a good plan. I'll get the tits out and cry. =P
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:iconself-epidemic:
Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Showing how stressed you are isn't a bad thing, maybe not the tits out approach, but genuinely show like you care and are worried. Most people are sympathetic.
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iKiska Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Student General Artist
That's shit that they won't even offer advice, especially if you've tried so many places and got negative replies or no replies. :no: Like what Janezy said though, apparently a bit of persistence maaaay help -- at least it'll remind them about you, not to mention it'll look good that you're so dedicated to working for them.

Since your course is counting on this, is there ANYone in there that you can talk to? Surely they won't just throw you out into the cold after having tried so hard to get shit done. :stare:
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:iconpink-anthony:
pink-anthony Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I've tried talking to our tutor, who just kind of blankly stares back and says "oh... um... have you tried emailing the hospital? they have offices, right?", and the prick who works for the company's roof that we're doing the course under, and his advice was "TRY HARDURRRR".

I'm definitely going to annoy the shit out of the businesses I've already tried even more that I have already.
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Janezy-and-her-Tea Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well for the ones that haven't replied yet try contacting again and ask how your application's going. I was given the tip that a small amount of persistence can help with job applications by making it seem like you're committed or something.
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pink-anthony Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh yes, I've been doing that too. I'm really gonna have to up the ante on it though. Thank you. :)
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Janezy-and-her-Tea Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Now that I think about it one of my friends managed to get a job by physically going over to the company she was applying for with her CV.

Whether it's a scientifically proven method of job acquirement or not is something I can't quite say.
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:iconpink-anthony:
pink-anthony Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Ooh yes, I've done that too. Went in somewhere today that seemed interested in taking me. So fingers crossed.
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:iconpink-anthony:
pink-anthony Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Ooh yes, I've done that too. Went in somewhere today that seemed interested in taking me. So fingers crossed.
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AnImperfectDream Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Unemployment is a bitch. An utter bitch. The kind that will break into your house and crap in your cereals when you aren't looking.

All right, the last part might have been an overstatement, but it still sucks more than I've had the opportunity to. Finding work in that field can be a particular nuisance depending on your location. I wish you luck, hopefully you'll have more than I've had. :/
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:iconpink-anthony:
pink-anthony Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It's just really difficult. And it's not just me.
Only 6 people out of the 17 of us have actually gotten a place so far. And they're all over 35.

The rest of the class are under 25, and it really seems to be an age issue. Nowhere will take us on because we're not old enough to have the 4 years experience most places looking for office workers expect. I mean, I was still in school 4 years ago. :nirvana:

Thank you though, and good luck to you too!
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:iconkorukikonaru:
KorukiKonaru Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
That sucks. I'd suggest looking around yourself but it looks like you've already done that. Just keep trying, I guess.
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:iconpink-anthony:
pink-anthony Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That's the plan. :salute:
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