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January 15, 2013


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High-Functioning Autism & Aspergers: PSA

AngelonanAngle Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
[a lot of this was taken and edited from different sources, but it sums up so much of how I feel]
Just my personal rant and opinion and feelings.
Oh, I knew I'm treading on thin ice, but feel free to give mature rebuttal/opinion.

I'm not buying into the whole "I'm autistic, so you have to be nice to me and give me everything I want!" baloney. If I tried to pull that as a kid, my parents would have none of it.
Do I have special needs? No, I have no been diagnosed with anything officially. Am I a self-proclaimed Austism/Aspergers-haver? No, I don't find that fair to put a label like that on myself with so many other people who have problems of that nature. Do I fit the bill to a [larger] degree? Yes, yes I do; but usually I just chalk it up to being introverted.

My brother and I say "Autism/Aspergers is an explanation, not an excuse." Yeah, it's why I'm odd sometimes in social situations. It's why I get disgruntled at little things that shouldn't matter (but they do to me, sometimes). But if I get called out on it, I'll say "Oops, got to get myself under control again." I don't expect everyone in the world to coddle me and be nice to me. If anything, "special" treatment is very condescending.

---> People who use the autistic spectrum as a personal excuse for being creepy or annoying are a personal pet peeve of mine. Also because they give everyone else on the spectrum who are perfectly good people a bad name.
Creepers are creepers. Not all creepers are autists and not all autists are creepers and to use one to "excuse" the other makes them all look bad.

I'm just putting this out there for people who are autists, know autists, or have/have had a problem with autists.

THEY ARE NOT BAD PEOPLE BY ANY MEANS: bad people are bad people. No need to blame a whole sect of people for a bad experience. Okay?

Buuuuuut, there are people who may be obnoxious who are autisti. Then again, there are tons more who are so cool! Part of being a part of the spectrum is the difficulty adapting to situations. I've learned that if you truly desire and want to associate yourself with people, you have to learn the skills it take to do so, not just be like "Oh. I'm autistic! So you have to accept my inappropriate behavior and if you have a problem with me, you're a bad person!" It's like wanting to join a cooking class but refusing to bring the supply necessary to cook [thus, making others pick up your slack in some cases]
And there are plenty of other people who are obnoxious and not autistic, to boot, as well, and people need to remember that. But autists can be great people to take to as well as brilliant people!

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Cosmic--Chaos Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I understand the points you're trying to make.

"I'm autistic, so you have to be nice to me and give me everything I want!"

I have Asperger's Syndrome, and I loathe that kind of mindset.

The "get out of jail/responsibility free" card needs to stop. There's something called accountability, and a neurological (or psychological) condition/disorder does not excuse someone from that, no matter what excuses they give you.

Something like autism or AS doesn't give be the right to act like a prick and not face the consequences for doing so. I never use AS as an excuse for bad behavior, and I think it's awful how some people try to.
BrandonSPilcher Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Assholes exist all over the autism/"neurotypical" spectrum, and I agree that autism should never be used as a "get out of jail free" card for bad behavior. That said, I've seen so many rants and stamps like the OP that I've actually grown rather sick of it. It's beating a dead horse to me.
awesomeizzy Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
One of my friends has Asperger's, and he says that most of the difference it makes to him is that he can't always pick up on body language and stuff, so the example he used is that he can't tell if a smile is genuine or not when most people can, but he doesn't use it as an excuse.
K-Koji Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013
The only people I've met who have Asperger's spent much of their time trying to convince me that they all had genius I.Q's, when in reality, I didn't really see them as any smarter than anyone else. I was always tempted to ask them that if they were so brilliant, why didn't they learn to stop phoning me 4-5 times a day. Especially after I specifically told them; "Stahp. Phoning. Me. I don't like it >:["
GrimCW Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013
The bad ones ruin it for the rest of us sadly...
Worse off are the parents that feed these kids and make them capable of being so terrible.

TBH to avoid it myself, i actually kicked myself in the ass and went into the military.
Gotta say, it helped a lot, despite i'm still often considered "odd" or "weird".
But apparently still being capable of having FUN with average things like general hobbies (model kits, games, normal non WWE wrestler starring in movies, etc..) that don't involve beer, sex, football and trucks, Is considered a serious social Faux pas that makes me "retarded" and entirely abnormal.
That and the fact that while most are being whiny bitches at work and complaining about each other for no reason other than to do so, i can still smile and crack a joke.

TBH i take it as a compliment when people tell me to "act your age" since it means despite i'm 30, i can still have fun like i'm far less (often told as being 14 instead)
I think they're just jealous given i can be "free spirited" and still work for a living, own my house, and pay my own bills without living in my parents basement.
Hard for them to give me the stereotyped treatment if i don't fill in that crucial point of "living at home with mommy and daddy in their basement"

.... Not that that'd be possible given their house is as old as mine and has a mostly dirt and stone basement... hell mine still has a 6 ft deep cistern :)
RockyGems Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Student General Artist
I once met someone who told me I had to be nice to them and let them get away with stuff because they were bisexual.
Redfoxbennaton Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Autism should never be a excuse for anything. Unless it's job related.
SewLolita Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013   General Artist
I and a friend both have aspergers... though, with the new classification, I guess that mean we're lumped in with 'any sort of autistic' now.
He is an INCREDIBLY rude, creepy ( I generally don't even notice 9/10 of the stuff most people call creepy or rude, and I LIKE weird people, and this guy still manages to severely weird me out...), flakey douchebag. He pulls the 'I have aspergers so don't be mean and...' thing anytime anyone pulls him up on it...or randomly, if he isn't getting his way.
I am annoyed, as he does this to me, too- despite my having told him many, many times that I do too. So do several other people we know (all of whom are quite nice to be around. It's cool to talk to people who are also interestingly weird)...and I've tried explaining that people don't have a problem with him being autistic, they don't like him because he's unbearable. I've even given him tips on how to figure out what people mean, how to tell if they're bored or annoyed, and things that ...well, I don't get why they're a problem either, but they rude or upset people, so are best avoided if you don't want people upset at you.
But he still doesn't try, just keeps blaming the disorder, and people in general for disliking him due to his behaviour. It bugs the crap out of me, because...well, it gives it a bad name and then advertises it. Which mean other people associate that with it, and either assume that you're /really/ like that, or assume that if you're not like that, you're not 'really' autistic.
LNZart Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree. It's an explaination, not an excuse. This can be said for any illness/disorder however. Anybody I've ever met that uses anything like that as an excuse usually doesn't have it. I myself am dyslexic and it irritates me to no end when people have no grammar to speak of claim they're dyslexic so it's ok. Dyslexia does not make you forget to capitalize letters or make you forget punctuation; you switch numbers/letters around. I really wonder if people even look up an illness or disorder before pretending they have it. I get challenged on my dyslexia all the time at school and work because people don't believe I have it. I've just gotten really good at hiding it because I don't want to be treated differently. I've learned that what I see/write isn't always right and fix it.
TuxedoDemon Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
They're taking Aspergers out of the next revision of the DSM, I've heard. So it's essentially not diagnosable as a thing. Or it won't be in the future.
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