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Photographers, Photoshop, Suggestions ^_^

:iconev3ntually:
Ev3ntually Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Photographers: What the hell is a photographer? o.O ''someone who takes photographs professionally'' I'm pretty sure anyone can do that, with a pretty expensive camera. It doesn't take much skill to snap a picture. I can understand when photographers use editing tools and/or Photoshop. But what irritates me is when I see a person posts their ''art'' and It comes out like this [link] and I'm just like ''How in the world does that take skill? How in the world Is that art?''. I may come off as ignorant but does It really take hard word, practice, and skill to take a photo? Someone please explain to me how is being a photographer a talent? Skill? Art? When ANYONE with money can do it. ._.

Photoshop: Photoshop kinda reminds me of steroids, like yeah the finish product looks good, but you didn't do it on your own, technically that's not YOUR work. What I mean by that is let's say someone draws a girl and it turns out pretty bad, so they use Photoshop and It's pretty decent. Or a regular nothing special photo, BAM they use a tool on Photoshop and everyone is like ''Whoa, how is she underwater like that? OMG so amazing''. Basically whenever someone uses Photoshop I don't see it as a drawing or a Painting more like an edit. <.<

Suggestions: I'm new to Deviantart and..I'm a perfectionist so I don't want to commit to Deviantart and keep posting my pictures If I'm not satisfied with it(I'm weird like that). So could you give me some critiques and suggestions on my artwork? Drawing --> [link]
I also paint so could you give me some critiques on my painting as well? XD Painting --> [link]
I'm new to Drawing and Painting, I use to be a make-up artist until I wanted to become an artist. I started 1 year ago ^_^.
Please and thank you. <3
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3wyl Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
If you would like some feedback for your deviations, please post in the ThumbShare Forum. :)

FAQ #801: Are there any rules for the Forums?

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:iconcamera-wielding-fool:
Camera-wielding-fool Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
go on then, show us all up with your gr8 photos if it's so easy-peasy
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:iconev3ntually:
Ev3ntually Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I would but I have a shitty camera :C
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Camera-wielding-fool Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
a good photographer doesn't need an expensive camera :) :) :)
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290Pika Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Student Filmographer
Photography: The click of a button doesn't mean anything, whether it's on a cheapy point-and-shoot or a fancy expensive camera. You have to know how the different lenses work in different situations. You have to know about lighting, composition, etc. Even when taking pictures of people, there's a difference between bad and good.

Digital Art: Photoshop and other digital programs are tools. It doesn't make something magically amazing; it's not a short-cut. It takes skill. This isn't automatically better because someone slapped on some color using a digital program, but this took time, skill, and knowledge of the program to create a composition. Your art isn't magically "more worthy" because it was done using traditional media.

Suggestions: Stop being a Complaints whore and get your ass down to Thumbshare.
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:iconev3ntually:
Ev3ntually Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Whore ''A person considered sexually promiscuous.''
o.o..Alrighty then.

I find you guys so highly amusing, and it just tickles to me pink to see how defensive you get. It's just an opinion, get over it. <3
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:icon290pika:
290Pika Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Student Filmographer
Very ignorant opinions coming from someone aspiring to be an artist. :unimpressed:

And yes, you're being an attention whore. Go to Thumbshare if you want to advertise your drawings.
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:iconev3ntually:
Ev3ntually Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I found your comment very rude and hostile, so I was the very same towards you. =)
It started out good until I read the last part of your statement. That made me very sad. :(
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:iconev3ntually:
Ev3ntually Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Btw, I do not wish to advertise, I just want critiques.
This part of the forums seem to be the most active, plus I had some complaints so I decided to post here If I did not make the right choice, the thread shall be moved! ;D
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:icon290pika:
290Pika Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Student Filmographer
Very ignorant opinions coming from someone aspiring to be an artist. :unimpressed:

And yes, you're being an attention whore. Go to Thumbshare if you want to advertise your drawings.
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Cederbom Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013
It doesn't take much skill to snap a picture.

It takes much more than that to make photography into art. Take a look at some of these bird photographs for example. [link] Anyone who's tried to take a photo of a bird will know that none of these came easy.
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:iconev3ntually:
Ev3ntually Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Lol a taking a picture of a bird seems complicated, especially if they keep moving.
But, I'm talking about bitches who snaps a picture of a chair, tint it, and call it art.
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:iconev3ntually:
Ev3ntually Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ignore that random ''a''. ^_^
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:icon290pika:
290Pika Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Student Filmographer
Such gorgeous bird photos! :heart:
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:iconcederbom:
Cederbom Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013
Yes! I love these artists for sharing their work here on dA. :iconiluplz:
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:iconthisismyboat:
thisismyboat Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
You've clearly never seen a bad photoshop before.
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:iconkinrift:
Kinrift Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013


YEA, PHOTOSHOP.
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:iconkawaii-cookies:
kawaii-cookies Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Student General Artist
well okay then :meow:
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:iconskyfire2008:
SkyFire2008 Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Who cares?
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:iconev3ntually:
Ev3ntually Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You do, obviously. ;o
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prosaix Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013
*of
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:iconprosaix:
prosaix Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013
Keep being critical to people online, maybe then you won't realise who/what you are. :)
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:iconev3ntually:
Ev3ntually Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Will do.
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:iconprosaix:
prosaix Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013
I know you will, troll. :)
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:iconev3ntually:
Ev3ntually Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I am not a troll, I'm just trying to understand.
Besides, trolls live under bridges. ^_^
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:iconprosaix:
prosaix Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013
Then stop trolling. :)
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:iconbleachrocks2010:
bleachrocks2010 Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Just taking a picture doesn't make you a photographer, it does take a certain about of skill and knowledge to use a camera otherwise all professional photographers would be pretty shit at what they do and I had to do a crash course in photography when I was a temporary event photographer. Trust me it takes skill to use a camera especially when you have to sell the images to the clients.
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:iconev3ntually:
Ev3ntually Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Can't you just look at the camera's manual book, to know how to use a camera?
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bleachrocks2010 Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It doesn't tell you about depth of field and how to take decent pictures of people moving and ice skating when you are in a work environment. It does take skill to do photography just like it takes skill to be an artist. It doesn't tell you all about aperture and the other important things to take note when doing professional photography. Such as Shutter speed which can greatly make a picture shit when not used right.
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:iconev3ntually:
Ev3ntually Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You have points. ''An eye for an eye makes the world go blind'', maybe I don't know how it is like for a photographer simply because I am not one.

When I see a picture of an egg with a painted face and that person is a self-proclaimed photographer it makes me think what does it actually takes to be a photographer? What is the skill that goes into taking a black and white photo of an egg? How is a picture of an painted egg art? x_x These stuff I do not understand. I am only 16 so I have so much to learn and understand about this stuff.

Thanks for explaining, appreciate it. <3
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bleachrocks2010 Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No problem I don't do much photography as my camera is busted but I have studied it and my first job involved photography.
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:iconpinkmitten:
Pinkmitten Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013
So what is your favorite TV show right now? :fart:
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:iconkitsumekat:
kitsumekat Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013
It's a fight here.
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:iconbenjamin-biddix:
Benjamin-Biddix Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm digging NCIS.
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NirvanaGenesis Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013
Basically whenever someone uses Photoshop I don't see it as a drawing or a Painting more like an edit.

So, what if people did actually paint a picture in Photoshop from scratch? Is it not a painting then because they used Photoshop?
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:iconev3ntually:
Ev3ntually Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
If they actually DID paint a picture, with no help with the tools 'n' such.
Then, this thread do not apply to them.
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Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
P.s people DO create paintings in photoshop on their own. You don't press ctrl + art to create art, you paint it, except its less messy.
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:iconev3ntually:
Ev3ntually Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh really now? People paint in photoshop? Lol..
[link]
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:iconself-epidemic:
Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Yes, they paint. They use a paint brush, you haven't much knowledge of photoshop do you?
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:iconev3ntually:
Ev3ntually Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ah, thanks for proving my point. ^_^
I do not have much knowledge simply because I don't use it.
But I do have an idea of it.

So explain to me, how does one use photoshop?
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:iconbenjamin-biddix:
Benjamin-Biddix Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
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:iconev3ntually:
Ev3ntually Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I like the pic. ^_^
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:iconbenjamin-biddix:
Benjamin-Biddix Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
:lol: MS and 2 seconds, but really lurk in the forums for a bit before making a thread...
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:iconev3ntually:
Ev3ntually Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I did ^_^.
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:iconbenjamin-biddix:
Benjamin-Biddix Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, ok.
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:iconself-epidemic:
Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
You're a poop head.
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UnrehearsedSplendour Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Professional General Artist
I see you're new to the forums. Please lurk, you're going to more than possibly get a verbal beating....5...4...3....2...1...0
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