Sometimes it is hard not to be sensitive about your own work. If you put so much time into something and someone sees the flaws that already make me insecure, I feel uneasy about my own skill as an artist. I do accept criticism, but an artist had to know when the advice/comments a valid. Right now, It feels like you are complaining about yourself. People are offering you valid advice and you are acting like the are personally attacking you, when they are trying to help you improve. Stop making excuses for yourself. Art is subjective, so critique will reflect personal taste. You don't have to use the advice you are given, but to always ignore it is unwise.
Ugh. Yes. I've seen a couple of his other complaints thread.
I wonder if the trolls who attempt to subdue him are actually giving him attention is enough to keep him making posts.
I mean, I've seen posts with sad ends. They're legit questions or troll-worthy BUT no one or maybe only 2 or 3 have posted on them so they just get locked after a month and die. But this, haha I think what we're doing here is feeding the flame
I'll add this as well: I think this guy doesn't filter out publicity into good or bad. As long as he gets attention, he's happy and will proceed to do as he wishes.
I'm not going to judge him for wanting more attention, but his tactics aren't the right way to go about this. If we were to ignore his posts he would probably stop after a few more confrontational posts.
Constructive criticism is good thing. Other people can view differently, and it can be references for improving. And your art is good - bold brush strokes and colors for your expressionism style. Keep up the good work.
You're art student and professional artist, I assume you understand about art history, art world and art market itself. You can't make all people to accidentally like and appreciate yours - it happens at dA too. For example, even though I know your art genre, it's just not my area so I only look it with 'ok'. Everyone has their own preferences.
I have read your other forum thread, maybe the way you talking was wrong so people flame you. You should ask the one who understand fine art to get constructive criticism here, instead of shoving people with 'this is supposed to be art'. I bet if you put something like Duchamp's famous work here - people at this forum will flame you more. Maybe the one you want to point out is 'fine art' not 'art in general' (refer to your last forum thread). Cave paintings, street paintings, dances, craft, architectures, children drawings, etc are art. It's part of culture, how we communicate and express ourselves. I thought you learnt this at art institute. (:
The thing you have to remember in internet, (like you said above: hide behind computer) people don't know how your expression or emotion behind the computer. Writings can make wrong assumptions, so be careful before you posting (:
This guy really isn't worth reasoning with. If you question his work, he'll lower the amount of years he's actually been making art (sometimes he says 5 years, when it's more convenient he makes it 10+) He's convinced that everyone, everyone doesn't know what they're talking about, and what's worse is that he actually doesn't consider anything outside of painting to be real legit art (he even stated once that Photography couldn't be a fine art)
He's a typical idealistic art school drop out. High on his horse, and bourgeois.
I hope he only couldn't express well what he mean, *dayum my positive thinking side* (:
Photography could be part of fine art. I learnt 'seni cetak digital' when I was in college - I don't know what should it be called in English (maybe digital printing art?) we made art works with digital media - it included photography, videos, animation, photo manipulating, etc. Or maybe he should start with Gerhard Richter if he stated photography couldn't be fine art. Fine art is very wide subject. Even when we put things like dirt, newspapers, bones, etc. and we have strong concept behind it - it could become art.
*and I feel like college student again - talking with my lecturers about concepts and stuffs lol*
IzzyNicFeatured By OwnerJan 7, 2013Hobbyist General Artist
Just going to jump on the wagon here. Although, I have no idea if I'm commenting in the correct place or not. I am not anywhere close to being a professional artist, as anyone can tell by taking a quick glance a my gallery. (If anyone was wondering, I've been drawing ever since I could pick up a pencil. But I barely developed a style that isn't stick figures. Barely being rougly last year or so.) And not being popular at all, hardly anyone comments on my work. And when there are commenters, there are never any critiques. Ever. I would kill for a critique, a well thought out one. Whether it's negative or positive, I wouldn't care, as long as it helps me improve. So I must say, you're a lucky guy for getting opinions, whether you like them or not. Take other's opinions into consideration, it'll help.
People call my art crap without giving my constructive criticism, and I ignore them because they're trolls. I would love. LOVE. LOVE. to have some more criticism, I just need some serious criticism, not the crap you gave me. "utter crap" isn't helpful at all. You need to take your own advice, man.
As an art student myself, I highly, HIGHLY doubt you have gone through all four years (or more) of college without getting at least ONE negative comment on your art. Even the "artistic prodigies" get told something looks bad at one point. Considering how you linked your own art at the end, though, I'm guessing you're just seeking attention because oh look guiz I can art better den u
>> In real life, I most never get negative criticism.
You should expand your audience, then. If you jump, and can't reach the ceiling, then there's room to go higher. Unless you're talking about trolling type comments (which I'm pretty sure you are) - in that case, people in real life tend to have much more tact.
After reading through the comments I have quickly come to the conclusion that this really does look like a forum that's more or less made to attack any other person who draws on here and proclaim that your's is better by shoving your art into their face and more or less saying that most coming at you has extremely shitty work, not actually saying you're the best, but all the while still showing off great arrogance by going far beyond the confidence that still is good for most artists to receive. So basically this is just an attack/show off my skillz show.
Either that or...well, I would call considering others have been saying that you've made more forums before, but taking in the blocking of people who aren't really doing that much harm other than calling you out on what you're doing...I will admit that you have me quite beat.
You seem to have been very angry when you wrote this. And I know that most people usually say that you should have a thick skin or a grown backbone like you call it. Of course, there are also always people being envious about your doings because they do not manage things on their own. But not all people are envious about your art or doings. I do not know you - only from reading this and I am sure that I do not envy you. You are a professional traditional artist - I admire you because I am very bad in traditional arts. I cannot do them very well or even not at all. There is no problem to admit this. But I look up to everybody who can
I am no scary person, I am a honest person and I like to speak my mind. Probably it is spoken quite softly, not in a ranting style. Well, I admit being an artist who is very sensitive and sensible. May be you would consider me as one of the worst artists ever because of those characteristics. This kind of backbone - I do not have it. Negative criticism hurts me when unjustified but I accept it as a help when it is constructive. When I am angry or too sensitive I try to compensate it with meditation - I never needed that backbone to survive. The meditation is accompanied by belief (faith) and hope - that keeps me alive and kicking and dragging on