There's constructive criticism and blunt/harsh criticism. Constructive criticism would be trying to help the artist to know where to improve and how to do so, and be polite enough about it. Blunt criticism is this: "Da fuk iz dis shyt! U call dat a fakin dr@wing?? U dru dis & dat rong, u stoopid bish!! U shud dye & neva dr@w ahgen! i h8 it and i h8 u!!!11!1!12"
And I can see why people would get upset over that but if it's constructive criticism they are being butt hurt about, then they're just being pussies.
Yes! I don't like when someone just says something sucks. When they actually point out flaws and even just that it's even better. Better if they point out how to improve. I personally care less about praise in a critique, as I don't ask for critiques to be praised on my work, that's what comments / favorites are for me.
I honestly don't mind if you are straight forward an harsh, as long as you know what you are talking about. Lol... and you give me some tips about it. Other that' bombs away... critique the shit out of it... actually... anyone want to critique my art now?
I think some people just handle things at the wrong moment. Sometimes I get people asking for help about something (such as the 'Hey I'm new to dA how does this work/what are llamas good for' simple question type), a critique, a longer comment, etc, when I'm really not in the mood for making a good response or looking at it. Know something that's pretty fucking simple to do when that happens? Not x it away or responding at the moment and saving it for later. It may leave people waiting, but that's better than giving them a slap in the face for taking the time to try and help you.
I believe the same method works if you are the type who easily feels insulted at first over a critique. Go away for a moment, do something else and calm the fuck down. It doesn't take THAT much energy to not make yourself look like a fucking asshole
I really don't see the point of giving critiques on deviantART anymore. When I do manage to try to be helpful to people on deviantART (and that's the people that ask), I usually now just cut straight to the point and I don't go into detail because people cannot handle critique. Critique is akin to you attacking their children; their creation and their talent.
Two things happen when I give critiques: Either the artist is very, very grateful for the advice or the artist ends up hating me and thinking I'm a terrible person. And it seems lately all I'm getting is the second reaction and quite frankly, it makes me not to want to give any critiques at all considering that when I truly bother to give a decent critique they end up being 1000-3000 words. That means sitting down and looking at the art, looking at the artist's other works, researching examples/tutorials, and sometimes painting my own examples. That's an hour or so that I now consider wasting time because I've just been discouraged from actually caring enough to give input.
I take the approach that every piece of art has pros and cons so I start my critiques with what I like about the art and then I go into the critique. I find that when you do it this way the artist is much more willing to accept the negative parts of the critique. The idea that critiques by nature most only be harsh, in my mind, is misguided. How can you know what is missing in a piece, unless you first identify what has been accomplished.
I like getting critiques by asking a poll question about part of a drawing. I get a yes or no answer. I admit I have trouble taking them when I don't expect them, especially if they are just a list of fault finding with no kind words at all.
"Just a list of fault finding with no kind words at all" is still a good critique. When someone gives you a critique they don't have to compliment you at all. A critique is analyzing and dissecting a piece of work (whether it be art, literature, film, etc). And while I make it a habit when I do bother to critique someone to throw in little compliments, I shouldn't have to just to spare the artist's feelings. This is why I don't give critiques anymore. I get tired of having to throw in compliments rather than spending that time to really help the artist improve.
I'm not saying to regard people who are blatantly insulting your art. What I'm saying is that if you're ready to dismiss critiques because you can't find a compliment in them or "kind words", you are really robbing yourself of an opportunity to improve as an artist.
I don't believe that people's feelings should mean nothing as if they're just a dart board for those hard-ass types who have terrible interpersonal skills. There is always something good in every piece of art (I've come up with stuff countless times in the thumbshare section regardless of how novice it may be).
I'm not saying that feelings shouldn't be taken into consideration. I'm not telling you to not feel anything if you get a critique. You are not a person with a heart of stone.
What I'm telling you is that you don't always need compliments in a critique to help you improve. A critique isn't there positively nor negatively reinforce you. It is there to let you know what you can do so that next time, it can be better.
Complimenting the artist by saying they have potential is at least worth the effort. It makes them feel like they don't suck. Just taking the art apart and saying what's wrong with it, and saying how they can improve without some kind of compliment can really hurt a lot more than you know. It's your fault for not realizing this.
I see it like... everyone without brain damage can improve with practice, so saying someone 'has potential' is damning via faint praise. Maybe this is why it's so hard to avoid insulting people, when there's people like me out there reading too much into compliments!
First of all, the people I critique have no problem with the critiques I give. In fact, some people ask me for critiques when they see the critiques I give. I know what critiquing is. And I know how to point out what works in the picture and what doesn't. But that doesn't mean a critique that doesn't have a compliment in it isn't useful. A critique is there to help you improve.
Second of all, you are the last person to give me a lecture on how to critique people. To me, you don't reply critiques. And you are a reason why I don't give critiques even if people ask anymore.
Also, I didn't bother to look at the chart. What you've posted to me to me about "recognition of achievement" is elementary and over simplification of it all. You just can't take negative criticism about your art and you're trying to justify it by arguing with me about my points. Not going to fly. Nothing you can say to me at this post will even want me to welcome anything you have to say because you operate in a small bubble where people are supposed to bend at your beck and call; at how you want it to be. So take the chart and shove it up your ass.
Self-EpidemicFeatured By OwnerJan 1, 2013Professional Digital Artist
You don't really understand a critique, it is not someones duty to kiss someones ass, if they feel that they want to give their time to help them improve, then that is far more valuable than saying OMG AMAZING. However, you seem FAR too sensitive for the art world.
You might want to take a look at this and see how I critique.
Then go back, apply the critiques you are given, and come back when you've improved significantly and give me a lecture on positive reinforcement. Seriously, if you can't even take the negative responses and find a way to improve that positively, you are going to become stilted in growth.
You are not always going to get positive reinforcement. And when people work professionally they know their bosses are not going to always give them positive reinforcement. Such is a fact of life and a very hard fact in the art world.