We rented a house a few years ago- went in to sign the paperwork and were told that they didn't have any IDEA the current tenant was moving out. And of course they didn't waive our security deposit (as she said she had arranged for them to) and rent was $50 higher.
She wanted to break the lease and figured they'd be more accommodating if she found new people to live there fist.
A specific line from a song comes to mind. "Run to the hills".
This is almost certainly a scam. Demand the tenants number and talk, if he/she doesn't want to give you the landlord's contact information then it's sealed - the tenant is trying to scam you and the landlord. If you have the address then it should be possible to find out who the landlord is anyway and ask them about this deal.
Amen to that. At least now you can see if they've read the message = Are ignoring you on purpose. I hope it turns out alright. That friend of a friend seems odd to say the least. Either that person is really ignorant or a part of the scam.
I'd be shocked if she was in on the scam. I think she's just very naive with stars in her eyes, plus her mom is encouraging her. It is a very nice house in a great location for a cheap price, and I'd jump on it in a second if we could talk to the owner. Sounds like it's too good to be true, unfortunately.
I could be wrong depending on your local laws and stuff but she can arrange all she wants with the tenant - but without some kind of an arrangement with the landlord you could all still end up unexpectedly homeless or worse. But I don't see what could go wrong with making an arrangement with the landlord but not the current tenant - so surely that would be the sensible place to start?
Why would the tenant have any interest in cutting a deal for the property anyway, unless they were trying to lumber someone with some crap they didn't want to deal with? Or trying to scam money out of someone who looked gullible?
I never had a horrible roommate or landlord but I did a have a crazy roommate one time. We fell out during a drunken argument and he divided the flat into two and kept on his side and didn't step into my side. I had the toilet in my half so he kept all his bodily waste in jars and stuff and it started to smell real bad.
I told him it was dumb and that he should use the toilet and I went into his half all the time but he didn't budge.
Also he used to insist on playing his porn loud enough for the neighbours to hear otherwise he said 'there wouldn't be any point...'
You nailed everything I'm finding fishy about this deal, and the homeless part is exactly why I'm not going to join in on it. You'd think after a month of communications that the landlord would have something to say, yet we're still without his contact info. Even worse, the girl's mom is now negotiating a "reasonable fee" so the tenant will pull the ad and hold the place for us in May. They really have no understanding that the current tenant has no say on who gets a lease, especially one that's moving out.
Good lord, your old roommate sounds awful. I don't even understand how one could live with their waste in jars. How long did he keep it up?
If you are only dealing with the tenant then they can sublet but you have no lease. This is the issue. If the current tenant takes money from you but doesn't pay the landlord then you are screwed. If the landlord kicks out the tenant for whatever reason or their lease ends or even if the building is sold to be knocked down and replaced with a shopping mall then what rights do you have? Maybe none depending on the local laws?
It would be crazy to get involved.
He kept up the poop in jars for at least two months until I left and moved in with my girlfriend. For all I know he might have kept it up after that - I know he kept it up long after we got over the argument so he might have just been enjoying it?
I wouldn't call him awful. I was a lot younger and drunkener and had plenty of bad habits that I would now be ashamed of, so awful would seem unfair. I never kept poop in jars though...
Oh, absolutely. My biggest worry is that we'll (or they'll, since I'm ready to abandon this very soon) give money to the tenant and he'll take off with it rather than give it to the landlord. Maybe they just don't care that much because they have parents/boyfriends they can live with, but my closest friendly home is a 36 hour drive, so being homeless is the least desirable thing on my list right now.
Yeah, keeping poop in jars is a bit excessive. Did he ever get rid of them on a weekly basis, or did he serious have two months worth of poop stored?
He might have been emptying that that stuff somewhere and starting over while I wasn't around but I don't think so.
I'm pretty sure that he wanted me to smell that he definitely was keeping all of the poop in jars with no lids on just so as I could be absolutely certain he wasn't just creeping into my half of the flat to empty it into the toilet while I was out. It was very important to him that he couldn't be seen to back down from whatever crazy thing was going on his head that I didn't understand. And it was just as important to me that I couldn't be seen to be caring about any of it.
It was like mutually assured destruction but with stupidity instead of nuclear proliferation. The Cuban missile crisis but with jars of poop instead of the missiles.
What a coincedence, I just moved out of my previous home and my "landlord" was a totally unfair and scamming bitch who regularly broke the law and left a small box full of chickens with no water or food at home while she went away for christmas and they all started to attempt to eat each other.
Not that your friend isn't an idiot, but I'm an adult and I would totally bring my mother when subletting a house. She knows a hell of a lot more than I do in the world of renting, and not to mention I'll have to invite her over and hear her bitching eventually if something's wrong with it.
Well to be fair, there's a difference between, "I'm going to have my mom advise me because she has more experience than I do," and "I have to have mommy handle everything for me because I can't take care of myself."
Hah, that's fair. It was mostly how she didn't say anything about her mom until the last moment that bothered me. Plus her mom is encouraging this mess, since she keeps insisting on dealing with the tenant instead of the owner like a proper adult would. Harrumph!
Not here, as far as I know. The landlord has to (obviously) know about it though, and the tenant is pretty much fully responsible for what the sublettees do. This tenant seems like they're trying to do it behind the owner's back, which is another things raising huge red flags for me.
Where is here? If it’s in the US, I know of no state that allows it. If it’s outside the US, then I don’t know their laws. The owner of the property must be made aware of any person who will be inhabiting it.
I assume it'd be handled as squatting, which is exactly why I don't want to get involved with this house unless we've talked to the owner. I don't think these other girls realize that we could get thrown out onto the streets or arrested if this turns out to be a scam.
Yeah, "friends" was probably the wrong word to use here. My friend and I were going to rent a place. My friend then picked another friend (stranger to me) who picked her friend (stranger to both of us, and the one that's holding everything up) to join us. In hindsight this was not the wisest way to go about getting roommates, and if I could do it again I'd just rent with my friend like we had originally planned.
I would just say "hey, how about you (friend), me, and your other friend (the good one) look for a place for ourselves and not deal with this girl anymore?" Because neither of you know her and it would be better to avoid that whole messy situation.
Unfortunately I tried that about two weeks ago, and the response from my friend was "let's wait it out, it seems like a nice place". If this keeps going on, I'm just going to say "Hey, I'm finding somewhere else to live. You guys are welcome to tag along, but I'm not giving any money to that tenant".
Then you tell her you guys have waited long enough it's time to find out who the landlord is yourselves and ask about the place. That would clear up the whole question of whether the tenant is trying to scam those two idiots or not.