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Rescue mission: save DeviantART!

:iconeyaoxpfc:
eyaoxpfc Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2012
Hi, my name is Denise from Italy and I'm on this web site from years. I've seen a big difference between the old and the new DeviantART and I'm very disappointed. But I'm not writing to you for explain only my own feels, I know that also you are disappointed like me.
The Home Page full of furry-anime-wolfs and cosplays. Yes, this destroy the quality of the web site, but the worst are the social-network-photos! Have you ever seen, in the Home Page, photos of normal people in a restaurant, made by cellphone, photos of pizza with the shadow of the cellphone that is shooting it, low quality photos of the new pet made by a webcam... All of these photos are totally incoherent and must to be transferred on a social network. In this place, they ruin the web site and his concept of art. This is one of the reasons that pushed true artists to go away from here. I also deleted all of my deviations for this reason.
Do you remember the high quality of the pictures of 5 years ago? It was almost impossible to stop viewing photos! And now? It is almost impossible to view more than 5 pictures.
Try to open the Home Page, it isn't a bit... sad? It is a pity.

We also know that the staff don't want to act about this argument: logically, they want to expand as much as possible the number of users for an economic purpose.

What we can do?

I've got an idea.
There are some disappointed people on this web site. But they are disorganized.
I think the incoherent photos must be deleted from this web site. I don't mean the "bad sketch": some people aren't good in art, but they want to try and they are enough satisfied of their works. And this is ok. But aren't ok the images that cointain no one pixel that has an art concept.
These images, that aren't art for us, neither for a critic, nor for the creator, must be deleted for first.
I think if the true artists or simply disappointed people would go to make comments under the inappropriate photos in mass (15-20 comments), the creator will delete it. No offensive phrases and no personal arguments: only right critics well motived. A user can be a true artist, but if he upload an incoherent photo, this photo is still incoherent, independantment of the background of the creator.

And, to create this, I've projected a page on facebook where all people can post links of inappropriate image and all, in mass, can critique it (without forcing, simply using a correct opinion, that is obliviously negative is the photo is totally inconsistent). And remember: it is correct to make negative opinion only on the singular photo, not on the user. He can be enough a true artist.

But I've a little problem: I'm italian and I've several problems with this language, then I ask you some support... I want only to give you the idea and to create the facebook page, but is difficult to admin the page in another language for me.

Who is with me? Who wants to watch a DeviantART reborn?
I hope you haven't gave up hope in this web site.



:bulletblack: Denise :bulletblack:
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:iconphoenixleo:
phoenixleo Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012




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:iconphoenixleo:
phoenixleo Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012
Oh really?



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:iconpatt-ytto:
Patt-Ytto Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012
Equating deviantart to the word quality is like equating the big mac to high class cuisine.
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:iconmkr:
mkr Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Professional General Artist
Phone snapshots have replaced pirated poser models, pirated Bryce primitives, and pirated Photoshop filters, but it's fundamentally the same.
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:icondariadzyuba:
DariaDzyuba Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Sorry but it won't happen! :lol:
It looks like you're against poor people. :bucktooth:
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:iconkinrift:
Kinrift Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012
Maybe you should just become a furfag and yiff along with all the new teenagers? :lol:
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:iconsiantjudas:
siantjudas Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012   Digital Artist
:iconfellaplz::iconsaysplz:You're damn right I'm disappointed in your punk ass. 3 years and not a single deviation. GTFO! Where do you get off judging what is art and what isn't, what has value and what doesn't. You don't like it, then do us all a favor and leave.
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:iconxxtraprince:
XXtraPrince Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012
OK. Here we have a nice Italian lady who is concerned about the devolution of this organization and its standards, and although she is not ideally conversant in English she still steps forward and tries to help. She is promptly eviscerated on this page, including by some who lack either the knowledge or courtesy (or both) to even use proper grammar in stating their position - and who are native English speakers. I guess it's true: no good deed ever goes unpunished.
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:iconpenhuin:
Penhuin Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I sense no change.
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:iconpetrova:
petrova Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist
That sounds like bullying to me.

Just ignore them. They just bother me when they end up in the wrong categories and then I report them as miscats. :aww:
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:iconfaunwolf:
faunwolf Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
what a terrible idea!

there are some things you can do:
you can join groups which fit -your- taste in art.
you can feature "good art" in your journal.
you can ignore all the "bad art" and cosplay.

yes there are bad photos on here which should rather be on facebook etc. so?
every single person on this website has things they dislike.
i simply ignore what i dont like and move on.

if it bothers you that much that people upload things which dont fit to YOUR standards of art
then you should just deactivate your account.
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:iconsapphire-ashesx:
Sapphire-Ashesx Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012
Nothing has changed.
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:iconwandereranon:
WandererAnon Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012
COMRADE! LET ME JOIN YOU!
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:iconbohobella:
bohobella Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Been here eight years. Shit is the same shit it's always been.
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:iconshadowmaker-241:
ShadowMaker-241 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Use the "Popular All Time" option if you don't want to see any amateur artwork :shrug:
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:iconkittythenekoalien:
KittyTheNekoAlien Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh look, another person wanting to make changes based on their own ideas of art.
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:icongaussiancat:
GaussianCat Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Hahahaha. Oh god, this is a joke. Right? deviantART will never be precisely based on art quality. Shit gets (sometimes) removed when they go against the rules (such as Copyright violations and porn, in example).

Instead wasting your time on trying to change a website you can go to groups for specific artwork, stop looking at the frontpage or get off and go to some site for such purpose. Wouldn't that be more easier, eh?
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:iconwandereranon:
WandererAnon Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012
Go fuck yourself. Furfaggotry and animu has ruined this site.
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:icongaussiancat:
GaussianCat Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:pat:
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:iconawesomeblossompossum:
AwesomeBlossomPossum Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It's been here since forever.
If it "ruined this site" then fucking leave.
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:iconwandereranon:
WandererAnon Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012
Nope, there's still a chance to save it! :noes:
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:iconlt-raume:
Lt-raume Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Student Digital Artist
The site is fine the way it is, we cant control all the crap that floods in. Just ignore it.

This isn't a :iconpinksparklesplz:HIGH QUALITY WEBSITE~:iconpinksparklesplz: If you want a place with true artists, go to Concept Art. Or a gallery show somewhere.

I enjoy DeviantART because of how lax it is, its less pressure in a way, and most of the time people give good criticism.
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:iconkittymrowmrow:
KittyMrowMrow Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Student Digital Artist
tl;dr
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:iconsavwolf1:
savwolf1 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012
So everyone, what was your Christmas spoils?
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:iconvicsor-s3:
Vicsor-S3 Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Boring money.
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:iconroyal-demon:
Royal-Demon Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Money! :dummy:
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:iconjellybean9000:
Jellybean9000 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Some clothes, a scarf, a hat, a belt, a wireless headset, some socks, a PS3, a set of boxers, ans a pair of mountain boots. :nod:
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:iconawesomeblossompossum:
AwesomeBlossomPossum Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
A new tablet, a smoothie blender, a homestuck hoodie, Victoria's secret bath products, a My Little Pony body wash, and New Super Mario Bros. 2 for 3DS. :la:
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:iconsapphire-ashesx:
Sapphire-Ashesx Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012
I got a desk for my laptop and a chair! Now I don't have to keep putting butt-prints into my bed. :la:

I also got slippers, a new MP3 Player, two games, and notesbooks. :3
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:icongreeneyedyoshika:
GreenEyedYoshika Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I got a tentacle kitty, chocolate which was instantly devoured, clothes, an odd cat and mouse paperweight, headphones, and conditioner.
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:iconkoyukuk:
Koyukuk Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist
headphones, new sketchybook, pencils, gift cards and shoes.
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:iconlt-raume:
Lt-raume Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Hellsing DVD set, Walgreens gift card, boots, and headphones. C:
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:iconaret:
Aret Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I got a pair of sai and a cookie jar shaped like a companion cube. :la:

Also chocolates, candles and a broken arm. But I don't care about those as much.
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:iconsomnusvorus:
Somnusvorus Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012   Digital Artist
The site has always been a bit crap. I've been here technically for 9 years and I was one of the shit artists and I have improved by shit tons. dA is not a very serious art site. It is a handy tool to showcase but if you want a more serious art site, like everyone else has said, go to Concept Art. :yawn:
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:iconrockstarvanity:
RockstarVanity Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012   Photographer
As deviantART grows and more people use it, there will inevitably be more submissions from amateur/beginner/hobbyist artists. Those people have as much right to be here and share their work as professional/experienced artists do. dA does not and has never prevented submissions based on a perceived lack of quality - if that's what you're looking for in an art site, perhaps you'd be happier elsewhere :aww:
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:iconfarewell-spring:
Farewell-Spring Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Please kindly shut up, if you don't like some of the art posted here then just don't look at it, maybe? that's a more feasible "solution" than this ridiculous project. :bored:
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:iconcrimeroyale:
CrimeRoyale Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Professional
I've been here a while, but back in the day I used to almost never venture outside my page or those of a few friends. So I can't wholly comment on the status of the site.
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:iconeyaoxpfc:
eyaoxpfc Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012
Take an eye about this: if this thread don't would talking about this precise argument, I would deleting the thread because of your reactions. And it was sufficient 10 yours comments.. Why don't you explain your sensation in mass like here also under the photos? Also good sensations, also bad sensations. It works, but LOL, you, in mass, are acting only in this thread... When you also are complaining on the quality of the web site!
It is counterproducing mean this thread like a MY problem, only because I'm no one, I'm a woman, I'm italian, I've used excited tones, I've shaken the situation in which you can moan all the time without act (like polytics), I've pretended to be the heroes that save the world, etc. You can be impartial/objective and productive also for your own purpose? No, too difficult.
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:icongemdrop:
Gemdrop Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Someone help me... I can't find any sense in this. :B
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:iconvicsor-s3:
Vicsor-S3 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Could you please reduce the amount of text you write if your English isn't good? It's much easier to figure out 1 sentence than to figure out a text wall.
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:iconangelishi:
angelishi Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
You should learn English before you attempt arguing in English.
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:iconpinkmitten:
Pinkmitten Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012
Congrats on your DD! :la:
:iconsparklesplz::iconsparklesplz:
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:icon290pika:
290Pika Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Student Filmographer
It's been the same way for the 7 and a half years I've been on here. :lol: Only it used to be bad point-and-shoot photos; now it's smart phones because they're more widely used. The anime, furries, woofs, cosplays, and fanart have always been here too.

Why don't you, instead of blaming everyone else, do something about it? Report things that are mis-categorized or that use copyrighted content. Promote great art in journal features and on the thumbshare forum, and by commenting and favoriting artwork you think fit your idea of a deviantART renaissance.
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:iconeyaoxpfc:
eyaoxpfc Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012
Yes but I'm alone in this. My contribute is null AND I've no background in this website (then I've no authority, I've discovered this stupid thing about the americans only today, sorry for the delay).
If all the community wants the quality couldn't begin angry with ME, only because I've shake their limbo, where they can moan without act. Exactly like people with polytics and others things in where a mass exist.
And I've suggested simply things, but since, here, I'm the "enemy" and I'm no one, this things appears the biggest stupid things on the web site. When also them are daily moaning about the quality of the web site. It is so stupid that I can almost believe in this, lol.

Logically, people think in mass, this is the result as you can see. But we need to act in mass, or obliviously ALL the actions are useless. If ALL would act as you've said, the difference comes.
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:icon290pika:
290Pika Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Student Filmographer
No, you're just in Complaints. :lol:
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:iconcaptainfantasy:
CaptainFantasy Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012
I don't think the art is the only thing that's incoherent here Denise...
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:iconrhabdoviridae:
Rhabdoviridae Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh no, ameteur artists upload pictures and photos to DeviantART!

The horror :fear:
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:iconeyaoxpfc:
eyaoxpfc Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012
What? Read all the posts.
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:iconrhabdoviridae:
Rhabdoviridae Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
You're trying to separate 'bad art' from 'good art' based on your own skewed definition of art :lol: then you're suggesting people mass spam comments until deviants remove 'bad art'.

Dude, just, I can't even start.
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:iconeyaoxpfc:
eyaoxpfc Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012
I talk about bad art in the posts, and I've make a difference from "bad art" and social network photos. If you make this answers, you didn't read all obliviously.
I've said that I don't want to report a sketch made by Paint because maybe the creator has good intentions and is proud of his work. But social-network-photos aren't art also for the creators.
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