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Hello? Anybody Out There?

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GhostInThePines Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
So even though my gallery has pretty much been overrun with photography now and it's one of my favorite hobbies, I rarely find anything to talk about with other photographers here on dA... Why?

... Because the photography forum is full of topics discussing primarily equipment, set-up, shoots, and photo-editing.

What the hell is a wildlife photographer supposed to discuss with people who don't seem to do nearly as much candid/spontaeneous work on a regular basis as him/her?

Sometimes it feels like they don't even consider wildlife photography to be part of the larger world of photography... like having to go through scheduling shoots and arranging set-ups and then doing a crapload of post-editing is what makes an image a 'true photograph.'

And then you have the photographers who go to zoos and wildlife centers and act like photos of captive animals are so awe-inspiring, and yet two dozen other visitors that day probably have the same pose on their crappy little point-and-shoot cameras. And if you put those images in the hands of a 'photoshop master,' you'd be hard-pressed to tell the difference between the 'tourist' shot and the 'photographer' shot.

So... where are all of my fellow wildlife photographers?!?!? Especially all of you out there who are a hell of a lot better than me!?!?!... I'd like to learn from you, you know!

... Hello?
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DoctorOWL Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
At first glance I thought your username was GhostInthePenis
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GhostInThePines Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Wouldn't that be a man's dream-come-true!...

"I'm sorry, dear. My dick is haunted. I can't help it!"
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DoctorOWL Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
"It has a mind of its own!" :eyes:
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Elmida Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012
Just nod if you can hear me, is there anyone hoooome~
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SynapticBoomstick Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I have to agree with you, I've seen some great wildlife shots where the artist doesn't even mention a single word about where they were or what the encounter was like, not even what the species is :(. I'm just guessing and not talking from experience that the majority of people in the photo groups will be into the technical side of the media. I'll be honest, there's a lot about camera equipment that goes over my head and a lot of what comes with the one I have I never use. I just want to be able to point and capture what I see before the light changes or whatever I saw goes away.
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GhostInThePines Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
A lot of photographers seem to like to talk about things such as shutter speed, aperture settings, SLR/DSLR, etc... and that's all well and good, but when a wildlife photographer is out in the field, he doesn't have time to change those things when a photo opportunity arises.

Most of the time I'll set my camera to its best action-capture or multi-capture settings, attach my longest-range lens, and just go. If I'm working in fading light, I turn the settings to automatic, maybe change my lens's light filter, and keep shooting until the movements of my subjects start to get blurry in the photos.

I ID all of my photos, because as someone who does quite a bit of environmental education, I find it contradictory not to tell people what they're looking at.
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SynapticBoomstick Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
What you need is a group that specifically deals with spontaneous photography, the difference between someone sitting in a hide waiting for the wildlife with time to adjust settings and someone who goes looking for the wildlife who's too busy for such.

:iconelkplz::iconsaysplz: "I ain't got no time to pose, dammit!"

The IDs are especially true with bugs and flowers (I'm guilty with flowers), it drives me crazy to no end to see a really interesting one and have no clue what to search for to find more. A Google search for "shiny green beetle" doesn't narrow it down. :XD:
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GhostInThePines Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
A group like that would be fun...

And even if you're waiting around in a hide or blind, you don't always have time to adjust camera settings. Like you pointed out, animals don't pose for the camera.

Bugs are almost always difficult to ID... Entemology is one of the hardest biology fields when it comes to studying the animal kingdom. Insects make up 90% of animal life on earth, so sometimes you're lucky to just be able to narrow the ID down to the Family group and the local common name.

Plants are a bit easier if you have a few good field guides and understand some of the key characteristics of specific families. But it's best to have a wide range of specialty field guides to help you. I'm still looking for a decent guide to grasses...
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zodiacgal Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I take some landscape photos...
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Penhuin Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No. I'm not going to read that/
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Recoat Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012   Photographer
Don't assume. Start a thread and we will come. I'm a photo regular and we get plenty of varying threads. The problem is that it only gets 2-3 pages as opposed to larger threads like complants.
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Recoat Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012   Photographer
*complaints.
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Sapphire-Ashesx Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012
I'm not a photographer but I'm sure there are plenty of groups you can look into.
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GhostInThePines Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I'm a member of numerous groups...
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Sapphire-Ashesx Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012
Ah.
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MasterPlanner Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
You should look into joining groups focused on (no pun intended) nature photography, that way you can network with your fellow nature photographers. :nod:
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GhostInThePines Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I'm actually a member of several nature/animal/bird photography groups... the problem I find is that most people who leave comments are asking about submission/joining rules they don't understand or talking about the various upcoming contests. There really aren't a lot of conversations about the actual photography process there.
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MasterPlanner Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
Have you tried seeking nature photography groups on other sites like facebook?
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GhostInThePines Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I absolutely loathe Facebook. The only reason why I keep an account there is so that I know when the summer camp I volunteer at is having staff reunions.
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MasterPlanner Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
I don't have an account there at all :B

Still, there are other sites...
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Dezenerate Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012
Sometimes you have to get uncomfortable on the net to learn. :B
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GhostInThePines Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Perhaps, but the idea that we need to be plugged into technology 24/7 irks me. And I find that Facebook and Twitter promote that attitude more than any other sites. Whatever happened to face-to-face encounters with people over a good meal or a cup of coffee?
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Dezenerate Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012
It's promoting it, but it's not a reality you necessarily have to go through. If you can use facebook as a tool to get help you (and perhaps even schedule a face-to-face encounter), then stop whining about it and utilize it.
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GhostInThePines Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I'll whine about it as much as I care to, because I have way too many friends who have gotten pissed at me for not being plugged in constantly. I have even had a professor who has deducted points from my grade, because I failed to check my messages before bed to know a class had been rescheduled for the next morning. That is utter bullshit right there.
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Recoat Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012   Photographer
Don't sit and bitch to us. Be the change you want. If you want the topic started, then start it.
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