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Depression and suicide

:iconmajatek:
Majatek Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Sure if you're going through tough times and you're emotionally unstable you need help from your friends and family, but what I don't get is those certain individuals who claim they're going to suicide but take their time with it and post over 9,000 journals and whatnot complaining about how much your life sucks, that nobody can save you from yourself and whine whine whine.

That isn't crying out for help, that's attention whoring. That's being a goddamn drama queen and you seriously need to get off the internet and get some counseling.

Same thing with all those guys who complain that you're getting trolled, or that someone posted a mean thing and now you're in a fit of spiraling depression. You don't need to use every social media site as a bloody twitter page spamming us with how sad you feel. :roll:

And then when I do try to help someone, he gets all uppity, calls me a troll and hides my comment. Do you want help? Really? And you bitch in response to those who do?
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:iconthemisplacedend:
TheMisplacedEnd Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:la: Your icon is so fantasic.
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GovernmentSweetBeef Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Lol I love the "attempted suicudes"
how do you fail at failing
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KrazehKittehKat Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
But if I just posted that shit on twitter, you wouldn't be so aware of my desperate need for attention and caring and nurturing and heeeeeeelp! :ohnoes:
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:iconash-ketchum09:
ash-ketchum09 Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Some just do it for attention, I'm afraid. :(
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:iconsiantjudas:
siantjudas Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012   Digital Artist
Agreed. Usually I tell them to grow up and stop whining. It annoys the hell out of me because they trivialize an issue that can actually be serious.
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CindarellaPop Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
You ever stop and think maybe they're attention whoring because a need for attention and love is part of the reason they feel depressed in the first place? I'd say it's pretty natural, even expected, for a scared, hormonal and possibly mentally ill teenager to seek out being coddled by others. They still remember what it's like to be children and have mommy kiss their boo-boos better but now they have to grow up and suddenly being sad makes people angry at you for not toughening up instead of being sympathetic like they used to be, so they seek positive social reinforcement from internet circle-jerks.

I don't see how attention whoring is necessarily a bad thing as long as they keep it on their own page and don't like, actively advertise or hunt others down demanding to be loved or something.
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:iconredmarlin:
redmarlin Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
It's called being emo.
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Alxias Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I love it when people tell other people that they have been trying to 'suffocate' themselves on DA.
It's like, sir. Please.
Go get some help, or a sit and spin.
Either way,
You gtfo of the internet.
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Sapphire-Ashesx Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
I guess they think writing it down all the time will make them feel better but it never does.
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:iconcleverzed:
Cleverzed Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Some people enjoy wallowing in misery. If someone's really determined to off themselves then some random fucker on the internet isn't going to talk them out of it (or into it for that matter.)
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Totally-dead Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Well that is the test isn`t it? Being nice to them.

Now links.
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:iconmajatek:
Majatek Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
[link]

He tried three times last night apparently. :no:
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:iconkitsumekat:
kitsumekat Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
Holy shit I've seen that guy on ICB.
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:iconsligarthetiger:
SligarTheTiger Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Your telling me......, Jesus, people just...no
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:icontheleaveshaveeyes:
theleaveshaveeyes Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Professional Photographer
Generally, people who make noise about how they plan on killing themselves never do it. My mom threatens suicide every time I don't do what she wants.
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:iconmisterkhact:
MisterKhact Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
And then there's social surrogacy and extreme escapism. (See bronies)
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zodiacgal Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
:iconfacebooklikeplz:
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:iconatlantech:
Atlantech Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
when an individual is serious about suicide, they don't tell anyone. They don't make posts seeking attention, they just do it.

All the crying about how someone wants to end their life is just a cry for help. They don't really want to die, they just want so badly to escape whatever it is they are going through.
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Svataben Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
WROOONG!
People have committed suicide on-line, in front of web-cams. Also, people often tell others about wanting to suicide, sometimes to test if even a single person gives a single crap about them.

And about seeking attention: Stop acting like it's a bad thing to want attention. Humans fucking NEED attention from other humans.
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:iconmajatek:
Majatek Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
if they want attention they should stop trying to kill themselves and just socialize normally and get some psychology related help :shrug:
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:iconsvataben:
Svataben Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
They should just socialize normally, eh?

Wow, it's nice to know that people with mental illnesses and traumatic families (abuse, abandonment, you name it) can just start socializing normally after you said this.

Btw, could you be more ignorant, or have you reached the outer wall by now?
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:iconmajatek:
Majatek Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Or at least get help to socialize normally, and by that I don't mean use the goddamn internet as a twitter page to update all of us with up-to-the-minute posts of how terrible your life is.

:roll: :roll: :roll:
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:iconsiantjudas:
siantjudas Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012   Digital Artist
Well that may happen occasionally, but isn't the majority of cases. And if the person is testing to see if someone cares then it's not serious, it's a cry for attention and help. Them trying to see if someone gives a damn means that what they really want is someone to care, so they'll hold out looking for someone anyone to pay attention even if it's negative, and once they realize they can get it by crying wolf they'll keep doing that.

While it is true that people need attention, this is a very selfish thing to do to another human being, regardless of how alone you may feel. I used to do this a lot to people until someone actually made me see how selfish it is to try to get attention from others in this way. So just because people need attention doesn't make seeking it in this way right, it's a horrible thing to do to another person.

Also, for the most part, people who are truly serious about their own self demise will not go on to others about it before the act. They may leave something that is meant to be found after, but they aren't going to risk compromising their plan. When you actually are serious, the plan is for no one to know, or at least no one to know until after it's done.
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:iconsvataben:
Svataben Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Correction: It was *Majatek who said those last things.

My fail.
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:iconsvataben:
Svataben Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I completely agree with you.

I'm simply protesting the entirely idiotic statement ~Atlantech made. She also just informed me that these suicide-claiming people should "just socialize normally", like they knew/had opportunity to/could figure out.

I mean, people usually act like this because they have real problems (I'm ignoring the obvious lulz-trolls), and can't really "just start" acting normally.
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:iconatlantech:
Atlantech Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
if they want attention they should get it offline, just my two cents.
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:iconsvataben:
Svataben Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Your two scents aren't worth much, after the nonsense you've spouted. :roll:
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:iconendeavor-to-freefall:
To be fair I know people who have made some public statement about it before they go through with it.
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:iconatlantech:
Atlantech Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
yeah I understand that, but it's not always the case. Take it from me, I'm learning about this shit from professionals in a treatment program.
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:iconsiantjudas:
siantjudas Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012   Digital Artist
I completely agree with you. And while there are the odd cases of the opposite, that is far from the majority, a very small percentage that do-gooders hold high as a counter argument because it's easy for them to blow thing like that out of proportion.

Having been there and done that, I know that when I(or others I knew) actually told someone, it wasn't because I was serious, rather simply seeking some kind of response. The times I actually did try with the intent to die, I never told anyone, I didn't want them fucking it up for me. Most cases, those times, they never knew, or I ended up having to explain later.
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:iconatlantech:
Atlantech Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
didn't.........fuck I can't type tonight
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:iconatlantech:
Atlantech Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
well it's just obvious, if someone wants to seriously kill themselves, they know that if they tell someone they're going to try and stop them or even call the cops.

When I attempted suicide two years ago, I did it without telling anyone. I knew they would only fuck it up for me therefore I said nothing, just did it.
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:iconsvataben:
Svataben Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I wish people would just be honest.
You know, simply write the headline "I want ass-pats!" and then use the text to explain how they want their ego stroked.
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LOVEintheSNOW Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist
In that case, I'd just leave it alone.

Even if they were completely serious, I don't know how much a complete stranger on the internet's words would mean to them. :shrug:
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:iconpuzzledheartbox:
PuzzledHeartBox Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
You should have trolled him instead of offering help - classic mistake, I forgive you :bucktooth:
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:iconmajatek:
Majatek Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
From now on I'll have a blanket ban on acting nice to people. Instead they will all receive a fish slap to their face, because that'll at least do something.

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:iconnephenee:
Nephenee Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
Why isn't fish slapping a plz yet? :iconimsadplz:
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:iconmajatek:
Majatek Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Because that'd be regarded as sexual and sexual avatars (animated boobs, etc) are not allowed on deviantArt.
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Kinrift Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012
:iconboobbounceplz::iconbreastbounceplz:
'Ya sure? :lol:
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:iconmajatek:
Majatek Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
You wait :iconisayplz:
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:iconkinrift:
Kinrift Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012
:iconbreastzplz::iconbreastplz::iconboobzplz:
They're fighting a losing battle.
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DoctorOWL Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012
LOL
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:iconpuzzledheartbox:
PuzzledHeartBox Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
Keep your fish where I can see it :eyes:
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