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When people don't GET paintings they call it sloppy...

:iconillastrat:
illastrat Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
A true painter has control over their medium. What i don't get is when painters such as: de Kooning, Pollock, Basquiat, and myself paint in a seemingly spontaneous style they are regarded as sloppy. More so me as a upcoming artist than the former 3. With my art no line, color or shape is laid down unintentionally. I think its funny that some people who don't understand that call my art sloppy. No matter how good it is. Fools are stupid.
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:iconfredjace:
fredjace Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
These are amazing check out my art at [link]
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:iconblackrosekane89:
Blackrosekane89 Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Professional General Artist
A sloppy painting, even if it's done well, is still sloppy. A person can draw scribbles and even if they drew those scribbles well and made a beautiful piece of art, it doesn't suddenly become a straight line. It's still scribbles.
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:iconillastrat:
illastrat Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
i can name 10 artists that are considered by some to be "sloppy" and profane. but they will overshadow any of the sterile placid "refined" art that you can name.
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rockstar1009 Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
When people don't GET seconds, they call THAT sloppy. :no:
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:iconxyires:
Xyires Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I wondered how long it'd take for one of your threads to come to complaints. :lol:
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:iconsolaces:
Solaces Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012
This...could escalate quickly.
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:iconwildergothica:
WilderGothica Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Everyone has their thing. I think some of the messy paintings look very trippy, there's some cool effects that can come with it, but MS paint slop is what shouldn't be in anyone's gallery.
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ArtisticAxis Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012
:shrug:
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:iconjak-the-lombax:
Jak-the-Lombax Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Bawwwwwwww~
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:iconphoenixleo:
phoenixleo Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
Everyone, enjoy! \o\
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moxiee Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I don't know why but I feel like the Snow White painting should be part of a series.
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:iconphoenixleo:
phoenixleo Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
That would be an amazing choice if the artist did that. :nod:
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:iconpookinator:
Pookinator Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012
Now those... those are art. Some beautiful selections.
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:iconphoenixleo:
phoenixleo Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
:ahoy:
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VaniBun Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
So beautiful :happycry: I am going to dig through your favorites now.
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:iconphoenixleo:
phoenixleo Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
By all means! :la:
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:iconvanibun:
VaniBun Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I just noticed your icon, so cute :la:
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:iconphoenixleo:
phoenixleo Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
:ahoy:
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:iconthisismyboat:
thisismyboat Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Thanks for sharing! These are awesome.
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:iconphoenixleo:
phoenixleo Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012
:ahoy:
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Datas-Girl Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Student General Artist
WOAH. These are AMAZING.
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:iconphoenixleo:
phoenixleo Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012
:la:
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:icondatas-girl:
Datas-Girl Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Student General Artist
:D
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:iconwildergothica:
WilderGothica Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
All very good!
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:iconphoenixleo:
phoenixleo Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012
:ahoy:
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:iconmoni158:
moni158 Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Student Filmographer
:iconsobeautifulplz:
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:iconphoenixleo:
phoenixleo Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012
:iconmonkeyloveplz:
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:iconredmarlin:
redmarlin Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
News flash son, you can't raise yourself up on a pedestal, especially in the art world. It's up to others to judge whether or not you are good. And for the record, Pollock was a hack who got away with making shitty art by saying "it's the meaning that's important, you just don't get it".
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:iconphoenixleo:
phoenixleo Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
Didn't you think of yourself as a fine artist?

Your life summary is : Me, Myself & I.

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But good thing you are complaining it here rather than General Arts forum. It's nice when you learn something. :happycry:
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:iconsabhira:
Sabhira Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
He originally posted this in the general arts forum. $namenotrequired kindly moved it to complaints for him. :lol:
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:iconphoenixleo:
phoenixleo Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
Aww he didn't learn then. :C
Either way, enjoy :whisper: :meow:
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DawnsBreak Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
:lol: Oh 't's you again.
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:iconmoni158:
moni158 Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Student Filmographer
I understand what you mean....:grump:

Though I think its different people having different tastes. I find a spontaneous/sketchy style to be beautiful and full of life while there are those who only think an image is good if its polished.
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:iconphoenixleo:
phoenixleo Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
His forum posts are always trollish like this and all about himself. Always. In the General Art forum. :lol:
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:iconmoni158:
moni158 Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Student Filmographer
I can tell, though he touched on a real issue.
Though its funny how he lumps himself with famous artists...:iconohyouplz: Dat ego.
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Ben3418 Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
In my opinion it doesn't matter if someone thinks you are is sloppy. It is your art. Artist express themselves in their art and those artists who try and please everyone before themselves put themselves in rough situations. Keep doing what you love and the way you want to do it because I am willing to bet there are just as many people who think your art is really good as there are people who think it may be sloppy.
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Sapphire-Ashesx Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
so.. 'baaww haters' ?
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:iconkoui:
Koui Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012   General Artist
keep in mind that a lot of people have no grasp of art beyond their preferred aesthetics, some cannot see anything familiar in an abstract painting just random lines/shapes/ect

heck I'm an illustrator; I'm supposed to draw things that non-art people can understand without thinking yet you would not believe how hard it is for some people to identify even basic objects in abstract cartoon form!
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:iconillastrat:
illastrat Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
funny.


i agree.
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:iconkoui:
Koui Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012   General Artist
yeah

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:iconk-koji:
K-Koji Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
different strokes for different folks. Not everyone likes the same style of art. Maybe to them it does look sloppy and it's just their personal opinions :/. Art is usually viewed by the masses and people who aren't into it can't describe things like an art critic would.
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:iconillastrat:
illastrat Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
i have a pretty good eye. I must remember that many people don't know art history and look at as much art as me.
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CindarellaPop Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Pollock was very discerning about where his lines went. If you analyze them you can find actual patterns in them that give them balance and make them work. He was very methodical, a far cry from "throwing shit at the canvas." I'm not saying anyone has to like his work, but he did have a method to it at least.
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:iconillastrat:
illastrat Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
um dood...um...like....thats what i am saying
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:iconcindarellapop:
CindarellaPop Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I know. I'm adding to the conversation.
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:iconmurphysdinnerparty:
MurphysDinnerParty Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:clap:

He loved that he danced on the canvas. I want to get a huge canvas and do that.
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:iconcindarellapop:
CindarellaPop Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
It looks fun as Hell.
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mosobot64 Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Student General Artist
I hate to say this, but art is kinda all about judging. If you want to prove to others just how intentional your paintings are, try working in different art styles. That way they know you're not a one-trick pony.
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:iconillastrat:
illastrat Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I have like 4 different styles dating back to 6 years ago to today. i have illustration, drawings, portraits. Art is about judging. but don't be hating me because you don't like me. Judge the art not the person.
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:iconmosobot64:
mosobot64 Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Student General Artist
Sorry, 15 years old. >.<
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