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Porn VS Artistic Nudity

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SweetSuicideKagome Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Professional Writer
You know, I've been on DA for several years now. I've noticed a lot of porn lately. Yes, porn. Not artistic nudity. If you don't know the difference then don't comment; and don't complain about how much you hate it; yada, yada. The point of what I'm saying is we're on DA. Porn is NOT allowed. I really don't want to log on and see in a couple groups, or friends that I've watched-- has some dude fuckin' another, or some chick spreading her lips for the whole world to see! This stands for the drawings and the pictures. But as I was saying; it's getting really old seeing all the porn running around. If I wanted to look at porn I'd go on FA or e621 or whatever it's called.

Here's is the kicker, though. About two months ago, I ran into a drawn picture of two men having sex; penis was shown, bodily fluids.. the nine years. They have yet to do anything about it. YET! I had come across another picture of two grown men making out and shirtless... THAT was quick to be taken down. In like-- a matter of 12 hours. I do not understand the filtering system DA has and I probably never will. But I sure as hell would like to see the admins stop harassing users that aren't breaking the rules and nail down on the ones that are.

Now, let's take a step back and look at artistic nudity. I realized some people don't like it-- yeah well there is a mature filter on. There you go. But artistic nudity is artistic. It's not some chick in the mirror showing off her tits, or whatever else. It's a well done picture, excellent lighting, models, the nine yards. So, quityerbitchin' that's art.

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Sapphire-Ashesx Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
Tl;DR
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:iconshininginthedarkness:
I literally look through dA for naked stock photos to use for reference, and I never have run across porn. I've seen one or two of the crotch shots people always bitch about, but nothing TOS breaking.
Is this because I'm not looking for naked drawings?
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Alioe Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
On the same page. But I haven't had a pornographic image appear that didn't get reported and taen down. Last image I saw was a man sucking the other guys dick....

And as for the two guys kissing, I think that's just straight up admns being homophobes about same sex romance.

Makes me think about posting a pic of me and my boy, Wolf kissing.... Just to see what happens.
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SweetSuicideKagome Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Professional Writer
It's be taken down. And you'll be banned. Hurrhurr.
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Alioe Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
That's bullshit... what happened to this site? *shakes head in pure and utter pity to the web*
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:iconshininginthedarkness:
Nothing will happen :lol:
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Alioe Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
:shrug: Things are weird.
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:iconshininginthedarkness:
You hear the horror stories, but you don't hear about the 99.9% of people on here (me included) that have pictures like these and nothing happens.
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Alioe Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
What? you actually have pics up that shouldnt be?
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:iconshininginthedarkness:
Oh, no! I'm talking about pics like 'two guys kissing', those are totally allowed!

I've got a drawing of two guys making out butt naked and it doesn't violate any of the rules.
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Alioe Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Exactly. but two guys kissing in a real photo gets banned.
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:iconshininginthedarkness:
I've seen lots and lots and lots of real photos of two guys kissing on here. Naked. And nothing ever happens to them. Mostly in the 'stock photography' section, because I'm looking for photo reference.
Sometimes pics get taken down incorrectly (those are the 'horror stories'), but pics of two guys kissing don't violate any of the posted rules.
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CindarellaPop Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I don't understand how shirtless and making out constitute porn. I've seen making-out couples on cartoon shows. I thought we were over that. Also logical flaw: Assuming porn cannot be art or that art cannot be porn.

Granted, there's defined rules for the website on what is or isn't allowed, but in general: Artistic nudity can be pornographic and still be artistic. Being upsetting or "icky" doesn't mean it's not art.
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SweetSuicideKagome Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Professional Writer
Also, if you were referring to how the admins dealt with that situation, I apologize. People keep thinking that I'm calling the shirtless and making out thing porn. It's getting tiring.
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CindarellaPop Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Yeah I was referring to the admins, not you. I get that different admins have different opinions on the matter but sometimes they're just reactionary.
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SweetSuicideKagome Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Professional Writer
Yeah, and that gets so annoying. How can one thing that is clearly not porn being deleted and then another image that is breaking almost every single rule in the TOS still up? Just doesn't make any sense.
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SweetSuicideKagome Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Professional Writer
.. Why can't people read? The shirtless and making out IS THE POINT. IT'S NOT PORN. Please, read before you comment. The making out and shirtless one was taken down because THE ADMINS SAID IT WAS PORN. Yet, the one with actual penetration is still up.
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Transformergirl Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Your avatar seems to be working against you...
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SweetSuicideKagome Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Professional Writer
Here, I'll refer you to another comment just like this one. ~

[link] There you go dear. Pay attention and read the TOS before you make comments like such. ~!
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Transformergirl Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Sorry that I did not read the whole thread. In any case,I did not say it was against TOS. Pay attention to what I actually said. I am referring to the slight irony of the topic when your avatar depicted what appeared to be two people having. relations. Which I see you have changed.
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SweetSuicideKagome Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Professional Writer
Yeah, I did. Because I kept getting shit on it. It was pissing me off.
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Transformergirl Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, complaints forum will do that.
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CHOCOCHIYOKO Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Student General Artist
Ugh the other day I saw someone uploading a bunch of stuff ripped from a porn/fetish website and it made me sad :(
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C-y-n-d-i Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012
DA loves boobs!
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Mattyohh Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012
The whole point of the Internet is porn.
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Pinkmitten Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012
Palaka doo pee doo..
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miss-mustang Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012
The last example you mentioned isn't really porn...
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SweetSuicideKagome Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Professional Writer
"I had come across another picture of two grown men making out and shirtless..."

That? Yeah, that's the point.
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miss-mustang Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012
No, I meant the shirtless girl...but whatever. That's not really porn in itself.
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6lu6ke6 Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012
Porn? WHERE! I mean, Yes porn is disgusting. >>
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Or-Else-You-Will-Die Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, GOD! I'm so tired of people posting pictures of their penises, and claiming it to be art.
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Dhr-Bosch Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012
i do not believe in the difference between artistic nudity and porn. i've seen porn that was more artistic then some highly aclaimed art, and i've seen art that was more arousing then most porn (or at least more kinky). lets get the petty victorian idea out of our head that there is actually such a distinction. just because there is such a thing as terrible porn doesn't disqualify it entirely from art. bad porn, lets say anything with jenna haze, is to artistic porn, let's say davinchi's leda and the swan, as days of our lives is to the illiad.

anyways. everything is porn to somebody is what i always say.
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WizardInWinter Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012  Student Writer
That's been an issue since day 1.

Years ago, I made a dA account and within a week I saw a very terrible, open vagina, picture. Two days into this account, I see a poorly photographed picture of some dude's penis. The two golden rules I follow now: Never have the homepage set on newest. Never have mature filter off.
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D-hedgehogadoptables Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well you had quite the welcoming to the neighborhood :U
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Kinrift Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012
The admins fap to this shit. That's why they don't wanna get rid of it.
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HerbalDrink Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012
Insert Jollyjack's picture here. :P
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HerbalDrink Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012
Dear deviants:

A picture of your boyfriend jacking off in the bed is not artistic nudity. It's porn.
A picture of your girlfriend taking a shower is not artistic nudity, it's just a poorly-taken photograph, and the only thing I'd be interested in is how hard she kicked your ass when she saw you in the bathroom with that camera and how your face looked after she saw that you posted it on deviantART.
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SweetSuicideKagome Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012  Professional Writer
^ Preach it.
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Jellybean9000 Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I've seen worse. :shrug:
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K-Koji Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012
I don't bother reporting it anymore. Da does nothing about it ( or else they call a close up, low quality cell phone photo of mayo being poured on a vag "Art"and close the case. )

Though regarding the pic of 2 guys going at it- I'm not sure how that remains up. It's not tits and vagina- thus to DA staff it's porn :o. In that case I'm sure it's just slow to be taken down.
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SweetSuicideKagome Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012  Professional Writer
Yeeeep.
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darkanddefiant Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012
yup, dead horse.
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PiratesAdventure Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012
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SweetSuicideKagome Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Professional Writer
I CHOOSE D
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PiratesAdventure Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012
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TheStickEmperor Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Professional General Artist
I think these are relevant to your complaint...

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SweetSuicideKagome Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Professional Writer
Oh sweet. Thanks! Just what I always wanted. c:
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TheStickEmperor Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Professional General Artist
...You do realize by liking this, you have invalidated this thread's argument, right? :bucktooth:
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SweetSuicideKagome Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Professional Writer
Do you realized I was being a smart ass? I guess not! :bucktooth:
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