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Voting in Florida

:iconmartypunker:
martypunker Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Every four years, it's embarrassing to live in Florida. It's the same story each time. ”Dems will win here, Reps will win there, but Florida is an important swing state!” Yet every election, we fuck up. Big.

Seriously, I want to be a part of the process, I want my vote to matter. I'm told ”people died so you could have these freedoms.” Then fucking treat it that way! I don't care whose fault it is, just man up and fix it.

We give 29 electoral college votes to the candidate who wins our state and our polls close at 7 est. That's super early in the election, meaning we could decide an election for a candidate very early in the night. Instead, we look like a bunch of idiots.

How are we still counting votes? The election ended Tuesday. It's motherfucking Friday. Our 29 electoral votes mean jack shit now.

So thank you, fuck ups. I'm glad I could help decide the next president.
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:iconherbaldrink:
HerbalDrink Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
Just start voting for 2016 so you'll have your votes counted on time.
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:icontacosteev:
tacosteev Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist
To have 29 electoral votes mean there are a crap load of folk living there. The electoral votes for president isn't cast until December anyway. So why are you complaining again?
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Kono-Uchiha-Madara Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I read "Vomiting in Florida" at first...

Just to relieve you:
You (as Floridians) don't really leave a bad impression in the International media;
America is one big clusterfuck to us to lol at.
We are happy that we don't have any deposit of oil, though...
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:iconphoenixleo:
phoenixleo Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012
How are they still counting for Florida only? o_O
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:iconlovely-words:
Lovely-Words Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
They've been counted by now. It wasn't 'til Friday though. Florida is basically a clusterfuck during elections.
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:iconphoenixleo:
phoenixleo Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
So why do they keep saying it's not included? As in why is it a mess? :?
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:iconlovely-words:
Lovely-Words Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
The presidency was decided on Tuesday without Florida's votes. Everyone voted on Tuesday, though, but Florida didn't get their shit together until the Friday after the elections.
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:iconphoenixleo:
phoenixleo Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
Wow! o_O
So late vote counts are not counted?
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:iconlovely-words:
Lovely-Words Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, we use the Electoral College to decide. Whoever gets 270 Electoral Votes first wins. So yeah, everything after the 270 doesn't matter for the presidency.
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Redfoxbennaton Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Bring this to politics. Not complaints.
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:iconcrazylittleloon:
Crazylittleloon Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Student Writer
YOU HAD ONE JOB, FLORIDA.
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:iconpandoraofbrushia:
PandoraofBrushia Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I was thinking this as I read the complaint. :lol:
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:iconcrazylittleloon:
Crazylittleloon Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Student Writer
I actually yelled it at the TV. :lol:

"Florida is still deciding."

"YOU HAD ONE JOB, FLORIDA. ONE FUCKING JOB."
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:iconpandoraofbrushia:
PandoraofBrushia Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
:lol: OMG! :lmao:
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:iconcrazylittleloon:
Crazylittleloon Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Student Writer
Watching the news with me is very intense. I yell. A lot. :lol:

I'm also the world's most violent Uno player.
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:iconpandoraofbrushia:
PandoraofBrushia Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
lol, I yell at the TV too, don't you worry. :D LOL :lmao: Violent Uno player....
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:iconcrazylittleloon:
Crazylittleloon Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Student Writer
Yeah, violent uno player. I tackled my friend yesterday because she hit me with a Draw Four.
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:iconpandoraofbrushia:
PandoraofBrushia Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I never knew anyone could turn Uno into a contact sport. :lol:
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VISIONOFTHEWORLD Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012
What do you mean "man up" to fix it? Why not 'femme up'? Since women are the god damn majority of voters now if you haven't seen the numbers. Maybe now we can stop blaming every failure in history on "men". Florida's so-called "fuck up" isn't one at all. You think a robo call that tells 12,500 voters to vote on wednesday was a mistake?!? You think the polls closing at 7 is a mistake? You think the letters that were sent out over the summer telling 182,000 voters they might not be citizens was a mistake?
None of this shit is mistake. This is a corrupt, republican run state that is making a sloppy as fuck mess out of its attempts to stop everyone other than republicans from voting. The 2000 election was no 'debacle'. It was George W's BROTHER who was governor of the state!!! "Yo bro- hook me up!"
The person who certified the election in the state was Bush's CAMPAIGN MANAGER. It wasn't a mistake. It was a rigged election.
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:iconmasterplanner:
MasterPlanner Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
Florida is where the old and senile go to die, did you really expect anything less?
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:iconmartypunker:
martypunker Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
I'm not old or dying. :(
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:iconmasterplanner:
MasterPlanner Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
Just wait a few decades.
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:iconimafallenangel:
imafallenangel Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You didn't complain about being sick! I'm proud of you!
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:iconmartypunker:
martypunker Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
I'm used to that. :p
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:iconimafallenangel:
imafallenangel Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Pssh. But you complain so much to me! On and on and on!

And stuff.

Love you.
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:iconmartypunker:
martypunker Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Pft.
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:iconimafallenangel:
imafallenangel Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:petting:
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:iconmmorpger:
mmorpger Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Student Writer
People's votes will start to matter once we abolish the electoral college and first past the post voting.
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:iconmartypunker:
martypunker Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Don't understand the second half, but agree with the first.
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:iconmmorpger:
mmorpger Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Student Writer
The first half refers to the way in which our popular vote is conducted. Each person can only vote for one person, and whoever has the most votes at the end is considered the winner. This is called 'first past the post' because the winner is whoever is the farthest ahead of the rest of the candidates. The problem with this method of voting is that it is extraordinarily difficult for a third party to accumulate enough votes to overtake one of the two main party's, and in attempting to do so, it takes votes out of the camps of either of the two main parties.

Now, imagine you have three candidates, A, B, and C. A and B belong to the main parties, but you agree most with candidate C. However, you really don't want A to win. Now you have a choice: you can either vote for your best fit, or you can vote for your second best fit. If you vote for your first best fit, you will be accurately represented at the polls, but there is a chance that because you have "taken" your vote out of the B camp (your secondary choice) to vote for C that you have strengthened the likelihood of A winning, which you really don't want. If you vote for your second best fit, yeah, you won't be represented accurately, but, hey, at least A is less likely to win, right?

So, the problem, as you can probably imagine is that candidate C is very unlikely to be elected, and so, anyone who is represented by C will not get who they want into office. Now imagine the polls look like this: A 45%, B 40%, C 15%. We've already established that C is not getting who they want to win -- so 15% of the population is now not being represented. And, as you can see from the polls, A is the first past the post, with 45%, meaning that candidate B's constituency of 40% is not being represented. So, that means, that 40% from B, and 15% from C are not being represented, for a total 55% of the people not being represented even a little bit. So the ratio of represented people to not represented people is 45:55, or, in other words, most people aren't being represented. This is clearly a problem, right?

Well, there is an alternative way to vote. In this alternative, instead of voting for one person, you make a list of people for whom you'd like to vote, in order of who you would most like to win to least. So, let's look at that same scenario again: you want C to win, but you really don't want A to win, so you fill out your ballot as follows. You put C as your first choice, and B as your second choice. Let's say this is what all C voters do, because B is the second closest candidate. Now the polls come out again and the results are: A 45%, B 40%, and C 15%. Candidate C lost, and so is dropped out of the race. However, instead of his votes disappearing, they get shifted over to the next candidate selected by the C voters, B. A new poll is drawn, and the results are: A 45% and B 55%. B is declared the winner.

In this scenario, instead of 55% of the people not being represented at all, 55% of the people are at least partially represented, with 45% of people being unrepresented, making the new ratio 55:45 -- much better. Not only will the effect be that more people are represented, but it will also make people comfortable voting with their best fit candidate, rather than the lesser of two evils with the main two parties.

A new, slightly less extreme candidate on the A side, D appears on the ballot, and B and C continue as normal. The new polls show: A 35% D 10% B 35% C 20%. D loses, and the new polls show: A 40% B 40% and C 20%. C loses, and the new polls show: A 40% B 60%. So, by making people more comfortable voting with a third party, you can actually get more accurate results, and represent the most people possible. In this case 60:40 as opposed to 45:55!

Sorry if that was a long explanation, but there it is. The problem with, and the solution to FPTP voting.
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shininginthedarkness Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
I really can't figure out why Florida is so much worse at this than everyone else :lol:.
I live in a 'swinger' state and we had it figured out right away.
Also I didn't have to wait in line at all, and I got TWO stickers for voting.
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:iconmartypunker:
martypunker Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
I voted early, so it wasn't so bad, but because Miami messed up so much, it didn't matter.
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:iconaret:
Aret Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
But I thought the point of the electoral college is that your vote means jack shit anyway.
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:iconmartypunker:
martypunker Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Heh. Originally, it was because no one REALLY wanted the popular vote to decide anything, the majority were a bunch of idiots. So yes.
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:iconquixotic-spark:
quixotic-spark Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
At least our local votes weren't completely fucked up.
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:iconmartypunker:
martypunker Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Half of my local stuff was unopposed people. Why do they spend money on pickets if no one is running against them?
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:iconquixotic-spark:
quixotic-spark Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Well, I meant with the amendments and stuff. But that is an interesting question.
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:iconmartypunker:
martypunker Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Some of the amendments felt like epic poems.
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:iconmod-a-holic:
Mod-a-holic Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Professional General Artist
so you wanted mitt to win?
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:iconmartypunker:
martypunker Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
No, I wanted my vote to count. There's a difference.
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:iconpyrohmstr:
pyrohmstr Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Professional Artist
It takes a while for the "unwanted" ballots to burn and then be distributed in the everglades.
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:iconquixotic-spark:
quixotic-spark Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
...That would explain why it's always Miami/West Palm.
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:iconpyrohmstr:
pyrohmstr Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Professional Artist
Fun unrelated fact: I was born and grew up around there.
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sbkMulletMan Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
Florida is the senile-old-fart capital of the world. What do you expect?

Also, you're the US's shriveled, useless penis. You're not going to get functionality, you know.
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MooglePirate9 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Professional Writer
I couldn't have said it better myself. :lol:
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:iconmartypunker:
martypunker Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
GIVE US VIAGRA, WE WILL RISE AGAIN!
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:iconnephenee:
Nephenee Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
Actually Cialis technically gives you more bang for your buck. :paranoid: One of my professors worked it out and everything.
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:iconmartypunker:
martypunker Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
How...?
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:iconnephenee:
Nephenee Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
Assuming the pills cost the same or even having Cialis cost a little more(prof gave them as about 10$ and 11$ with insurance), Cialis lasts 36 hours where Viagra/Levitra last about four. :shrug:

Therefore you can bang more for the same amount of cash with Cialis.
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:iconmartypunker:
martypunker Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
I think Viagra is meant to be a planned thing where as Cialis covers you for the unexpected. I can't really speak of the potency, though.
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