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I said I would never get an abortioin, not "you're evil, go to hell"

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Fayden-Dane Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Jeeze-a-loo, some people try VERY hard to get offended. I just had my son a few months ago, its been hard financially considering only my husband has work right now (a minimum wage part time job for me would only be enough to pay the baby-sitter in my area) but we make do. So anyway I was talking to this lady in the dr.'s office, pleasant enough woman for a first time chat, but soon the conversation went sour, it went like this-

lady: So how has it been having a baby?
me: eh well you know, you never have any money (haha) but its great
lady: been hard with the cash, huh?
me: yup, but we already figured that beforehand
lady: you know if you knew it was going hard why didn't you have an abortion?
me: :O_o: what?
lady: an abortion
me: I would never get an abotion
lady: why?
me: I don't think its right
lady: :devil: HOW DARE YOU! *insert exlpetives here* women's rights, uterus, *expletives* you're a F***** sexist B**** you can't deny our rights you *more expletives* keep you republican s*** to yourself *expletives continued* *change seats in office*
me: are you here because you ran out of your meds?


What the hell did I say that was so wrong? I said an opinion, respectfully, calmly and noncombatively. She acted like I took my views and slammed them down her throat with a shot of alcohol and clorox :o . It was a simple viewpoint in a casual conversation, and SHE brought it up! Like I said, I think some people try really hard to get offended; and I DO think she was out of meds. Normal people don't react that badly unless something is loose upstairs :paranoid:. Bleh, I need an icepack for my head, that lady gave me a headache.
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ArtisticAxis Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012
she sounds like a raging feminist
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Trigonography Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Abortion is a touchy subject. I think that people on both sides tend to reduce the matter to sound bites and platitudes, forgetting that there are real people with real lives involved. The hot-button syndrome is a symptom of a refusal to think, in my opinion. No one wants to put themselves in the shoes of another person, each with their own unique set of experiences and patterns of thinking, each one as valuable as the next, and try to figure out if they'd have the same opinion as they do being the person that they are. Thinking is hard. And most people get more of a kick out of saying how much better they are for being on their side than considering why someone else might disagree.
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MaryYana Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012   Traditional Artist
I... I got in here and left a comment a while ago I think. Then I come here again and see some giant shitstorm and now I forgot what this whole thing was all about :confused:

So eh. Who likes chocolate?
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Pinkmitten Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012
I like chocolate. But it looks gross to me on certain days.
I have to be in the mood for it. :shrug:
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kitsumekat Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012
I do!
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MaryYana Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012   Traditional Artist
White, dark or medium? :la:
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kitsumekat Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012
All. I don't each dark much.
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savwolf1 Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
I doooooo!
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MaryYana Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012   Traditional Artist
Yay! :la:
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azureastra7 Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012
lady: So how has it been having a baby?
you: I would rather not discuss it.
lady: why?
you: Because it ain't none o' yer fuckin' business.

Usually works. :nod:
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amylou2107 Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Although I don't agree with the abortions=bad thing, an amazing quote comes to mind!

"It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry
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Shidaku Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012
I would never ask why they didn't, or suggest it as an option to ANY woman who is pregnant. It's one of those things that THEY have to decide on first.

Anyone who brings it up is just looking for a reaction.
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firshania Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012
She's clearly crazy...

But telling her that you think abortion is not right, wasn't really a good idea either. First, she shouldn't have asked this question, it's none of her business. You could have refuse to answer, or at least, say that you didn't because you wanted to keep your baby; which is a much better reason to keep a baby than "because it's not right". Just a bad choice of words I suppose.

Anyway, that woman is crazy and she clearly doesn't know what feminism is about. You can't ask people to abort, it's ridiculous!
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CindarellaPop Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I'd tell her it's none of her Goddamn business why I didn't have an abortion. Personally, I wouldn't have one but I'm not interested in restricting it for other women. I believe in cutting down the number of abortions through helping women care for unexpected babies, adoption system reform, better sex ed and easier access to birth control other than regulating abortion because it's 'evil.'
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MainstremRebellion Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Personally, I'm pro choice! If somebody really, really needs an abortion, then sure, go for it, it's your right! But when young teenagers go around, having unprotected sex, get pregnant, and use abortion as a contraception, then it's wrong. Personally, I think abortion should be used in extreme cases, such as rape, financial situations, etc. Personally, if I ended up pregnant now, I would have an abortion myself, since I'm only nineteen, am in the middle of a degree, can barely look after myself, it wouldn't be fair, etc.
But some people have no right to have that right, if that makes sense? When people literally do just go and have sex, unaware and not caring about the consequences.
To be fair though, the fact that the woman seemed to think that you should have had an abortion anyway... seems a little... odd? It's like, yeah, financial hard times is quite common when a couple first have a child, but it gets better! Some situations call for an abortion, but... I don't understand why she asked you like that. Seems very rude to me.
Each to their own!
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alice-hime Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012
Some people think it's selfish to bring a child into the world knowing you don't have enough resources to take care of them (maybe you do have enough - I'm not sure, but based on what you said, one might assume you don't). I must admit that I'm of the same opinion, but I think it's inappropriate to do what she did... Plus, "I would never have an abortion" doesn't mean, "No one should ever have abortions". :P
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CKDreamer Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
^^^ i'm one of those people.
recources and overpopulation are a serious issuse. What isn't right is bringing a child into the world that will likely starve to death. so, to kaijo, if you could see the future and your husband lost his job and you had no money, and food stamps didn't exist, and starvation set in, leavin in a dark alley with come hobo's you might go back in time and change your mind, to spare your child a slow death.
anyways, never say never.
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SpaniardWithKnives Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
In the first place she asked you why you did not abort the baby. WTH?. In the first place she put her nose in something that is not her damn business, and when she hears a reply she does not like, she blows up...

Maybe is true and you should not have said that you think abortion in not right and instead, say that a bortion is not right for you. Ok, but she made a mistake asking you that question from starters.
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Kizziesama Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
I think she jumped to a conclusion that is common... and made an assumption she shouldn't have (you know what they say about assuming: makes an ass of you and me :thumbsup:). If she's all pro-choice as her "input" suggests, then she should respect the choice for a mother to disagree with her. Two way street there.
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yaotl Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
Dude, what the hell? Red flags went up the minute she asked you why you didn't abort the child you already have and are living for.

Doesn't she get that the whole "choice" of "pro-choice" includes having the baby without being told that you should have aborted it? Hotdamn!

Also, while I am fiercely pro-choice, I like to say that I'd never have an abortion. And I hope to God I never have to find out just how much of that statement is true.
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Himteckerjam Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Professional General Artist
While she definitely did NOT need to blow up? I can see why she did.

This is why I have a problem with people who always feel the need to state that they would NEVER get an abortion before declaring themselves pro-choice. When you say it like this, it sounds as if you think abortion is wrong and, what’s more, that anyone who has gotten one made the wrong decision because even though you’ve probably never been in a situation where you’d need to consider an abortion you feel confident enough in saying what you’re sure you wouldn’t do it.

When you say it like that it comes off as if you’re trying to include yourself in a group that you secretly are ashamed for being a part of. Feeling the need to state that you are pro-choice but that you would also never get an abortion only feeds the stereotypes about pro-choicers; that being pro-choice is something that is inherently shameful or wrong and that everyone who identifies as such gets abortions frivolously and oh by the way YOU aren’t like THAT because you would NEVER get an abortion….even though you’ve never been in a position to need one, yet.

You’re attempting to separate yourself into a more favorable light while attempting to align yourself with a group that is not always seen as favorable.

It’s like people who claim to be feminists but they aren’t like those other feminists. They shave their armpits and they like men!

“I’m pro-choice but I would never get an abortion ” is the same as saying, “I’m a feminist but, don’t worry, I don’t hate men!”
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GMan313 Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012
People shouldn't have to sugarcoat their answers to prevent people from acting retarded. She should have known there was a possibility that the OP was going to spit out an answer she wouldn't like.

This is why society today is pussiefied beyond all recognition.
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Himteckerjam Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Professional General Artist
"Sugarcoat"

"Pussified"

"Retarded"


No, society's problem today happens to be angry white dudes like you who's brains have been replaced with testicles.

Please stop breathing.
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GMan313 Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012
Wait that's your response? :lol:

Are you fucking retarded? :lol::lol:

I'm not even white. :rofl:
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Himteckerjam Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Professional General Artist
Yes you are. In fact, you're white to the point that you could be Cuban as fuck and brown as a nut and I'd still call you white.

Because you sound like a MANgry white dude, bruh. Fox Newsing yourself to death.
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GMan313 Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012
Lol you can't be serious right now.
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ArtisticAxis Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012
Dude.
It's obelisq.
Of course she is.
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Himteckerjam Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Professional General Artist
Maybe. Maybe not.
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zodiacgal Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
That lady shouldn't get her panties in a wad over that. It's your decision, not hers. It's not like you were saying that everyone shouldn't get an abortion. People these days. :iconfacepalmplz:
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theleaveshaveeyes Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Professional Photographer
I don't understand why people try to convince you to have an abortion because having a baby is hard. It's ALWAYS hard. I'm sure even the people with steady careers struggle a bit.

NOPE, KILL THAT FETUS, IT'S NOT EASY.

I'm sure most people who decide to keep their children know it's going to be incredibly difficult and expensive.
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kitsumekat Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
I laughed at the meds part. I would've smacked her with a book and said "I'm sorry, your crazyness scared me."
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PuzzledHeartBox Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
Don't get too close, your crazy might rub off on me :lol:
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kitsumekat Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
You love my crazy butt.
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PuzzledHeartBox Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
Maybe :paranoid:
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kitsumekat Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012
See?
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cake-fiend Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm pro-choice, but I think that woman is a twat. She shouldn't have asked you why you wouldn't get an abortion in the first place.
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Sapphire-Ashesx Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
ugh feminazis..
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Cederbom Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
If I was in your situation I would've chewed their ass off as soon as they mentioned I should've aborted my child.
It's just not nice to tell someone they should've made an abortion, after they've had the baby. :|
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MisterTurtle Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
You shoulda stopped talking the moment she mentioned abortion. Choice goes both ways, ya know.
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Solum-Ipsum Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Tell me about it: [link]
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Sapphire-Ashesx Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
You changed view points over 'harassment' and you're saying she's the oversensitive one?
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Solum-Ipsum Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
There's a Zen koan about two travelling monks who vowed never to touch a woman. As they arrived at a stream, they have found a woman there, trying to cross. The older monk carried her across on his back. Later that day, the younger monk asked: "Why did you carry that woman?" and the other asked back: "Why do you still carry her?"

The issue she's been so hung up on was something that happened months ago. She felt so offended because of my beliefs that ever since then she's trying to troll me in random topics with it.

Also, I think that rigidly protecting an idea against the ideas of others, is more proof of oversensitivity than having the humility to question the legitimity of one's own beliefs.

I try to be as open minded as possible, and "sense", or rather "perceive" what others wish to tell, devoid of emotional attraction or repulsion. Thus, I don't adopt an idea because I "like" it, but because I find it legitimate, and when I find out that my own ideas were false, I change them accordingly, not clinging to them, despite they could be more pleasing.
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Sapphire-Ashesx Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
If you found it legitimate then you did not change your view-point because of "harassment" but because you found her insight to be the truth.
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Solum-Ipsum Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Hmm. Well, in the end, yes. But if she didn't bring my attention back to our earlier discussions, I wouldn't have given it thought back then.
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Sapphire-Ashesx Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
Okay.
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Engelsblau Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
Dafuq did I just read.
That woman was obviously a hardcore-feminist. Don't mind her.
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Svataben Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Hard core feminist = really believes in equality of the genders. How is this relevant?
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The-UglyTruth Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
I wish there were more Egalitarians. Then we could cover all the bases in one fell swoop.
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MurphysDinnerParty Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Her reaction was stupid, enough said. Yeah, you could have worded it "it's not right for me", but at the end of the day saying "It isn't right" doesn't warrant her acting like a straight up cunt.

In fact, that fucking "Why didn't you have an abortion" comment was fucking ridiculous. Like holy shit. It's none of her business. That has nothing to do with being a liberal. That has to do with her being an idiot.
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Fayden-Dane Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That's what I get for talking to people...
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