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Was Jimmy Saville that bad?

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benji-0 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, he was.

End of discussion.


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Bumsy Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
I hadn't ever really heard of him before all this shit, but when the news announced his death that day the first thing I thought upon seeing the footage of him was: 'He looks like a child molester'. Not a very nice thing to think of a recently deceased person but I guess I can get away with it on this instance.
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Novusforma Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Student General Artist
What does a child molester look like?
Surely like a gym teacher or someone in a position who works with children?

The image of your speaking of is something fabricated by the media to get at people like gypsies or someone who generally isn't attractive.

Usually when a pedophile is incarcerated or exposed they become what the media paints of them which extends the myth:

Roy Whiting prior to incarceration:

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Roy Whiting after ten years:
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My ex knows more about it, but she was dumb and didn't understand the full mechanics why, so I researched further. Turns out self loathing and no understanding by anyone on the planet (even murderers are understood these days) a sex offender has no future even after being released.

It's a horrifying metamorphoses.
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Sapphire-Ashesx Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
No clue who that is.
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DevilDaggers Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
He's a pedofork.
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Sapphire-Ashesx Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
:lol: I see.
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OxfordTweed Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Mmm. Victim-shaming and rape-apologising in the forums. Just another day on deviantART. :|
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GalacticGoat Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Pretty much... sadly. Even if the OP is trolling its a sickening topic to troll about :/
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OxfordTweed Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It really, really is. A TV show I really like had a big joke about Jim'll Fix It in its first series, and now the whole scene just gives me intensely bad vibes. D:
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GalacticGoat Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:c I see, I've never watch this show before but I can imagine that is the case.
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OxfordTweed Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
The show is Sherlock, for the record. The final scenes of the first series finale were one big riff on Jim'll Fix It, right down to Holmes himself saying stuff like, "Dear Jim, please will you fix it for me to get rid of my lover's nasty sister," and stuff. The joke was that the baddie was sort of the Jimmy Savile of the underworld. Which now is just... gah.
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GalacticGoat Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
D: I see.
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azureastra7 Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012
Kid-fuckers need to be dug out and fried.
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StevenSpielberg Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Professional General Artist
I was gonna ask him to play the Doc in Back To The Future but we found Christopher instead.
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spyrotdragonlover Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012
I met him in real life several years ago at a café, he was a douche.
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Gashu-Monsata Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
You met him? :stare: Good grief, I would have run a mile, he's pretty scary looking anyways xD
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spyrotdragonlover Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
Yes, he often visited this cafe that we went to after we walked our dogs, he usually just held court and ranted about stuff in the doorway refusing to move to let anybody in or out, but the best thing was when he walked into the cafe and demanded that somebody bought him a meal because of who he was and another was when he walked into the corner shop next door (it's joined to the cafe with a door) and took a newspaper without paying because of who he was.
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MasterPlanner Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
He was a disgusting pedophile and while I don't condone mob justice, I think it's sad that you care more about the corpse of a disgusting pedophile than you do about his victims or those who are angry that he never faced justice during life.
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CindarellaPop Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
He's dead. It's not gonna matter a lick to him what the fuck happens to his corpse, I don't here the bastard complaining. If his family doesn't give a shit either, why should I? Dig up the stiff and stick him in a petunia pot someplace where he can't stink up the joint. Water twice daily.
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Requiemachina Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
yeah okay. Let me look into the guy first.
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prosaix Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
I know you're just another troll but... isn't it Sir Jimmy Savile?
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Gashu-Monsata Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
:lol: I wonder if you can renounce someone's Sirly-ness after they've died?
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Benjamin-Biddix Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Necro-pedo. :nod:
nasty ass motherfucker he was. :stare:
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rockstar1009 Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
It's not his fault that kiddies have been such slappers since the sixties. :no:
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gvcspecks Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
makes an awesome pumpkin carving to scare kids away.
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The-UglyTruth Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
Excuse me while I go google whatever it is you're talking about and come back with an extremely solid opinion on the matter.
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Novusforma Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Student General Artist
my footnote not good enough for you?
He really did turn a kid into a suitcase.
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The-UglyTruth Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
Actually, now that I think about it they pretty much had to cremate the body and destroy the grave. At least a cremation is a respectable end. If they had left it, you know that somebody who had more extreme views would have dug him up and made a drinking cup out of his skull.
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Novusforma Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Student General Artist
Actually the body is encased in concrete (his wishes) so it would take a lot of effort.
So much so they would get caught and rightfully incarcerated.
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The-UglyTruth Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
But how many times can the police come back? Will they take the time to watch a dead man's bones? I would say that the challenge itself would tantalize people.
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The-UglyTruth Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
That could have meant he was the world's creepiest psychopath or the world's greatest magician. I need context godammit. :grump:

Well, I just read up on it a little. Assuming most of the information is true, it looks like they had one hell of a shock after this guy died. I mean, how could 300-400 cases just go unnoticed? That's pretty impressive in the worst of ways.

I can kind of see where they were coming from, though. You can't just learn something like that and pretend it never happened just because the dude kicked the bucket before justice was served. I feel like they wanted to do something to help his victims however they could. Was destroying his grave probably too extreme? Perhaps.

It's just unfortunate that the backlash was so severe. Charities shutting down is never a good thing, especially over a name.
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Novusforma Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Student General Artist
Well those 300 claims are highly questionable.
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It's like a lynch mob, people are trying to destroy everything he ever touched because they're angry at their own lives.

They're digging his body up to burn, I feel like I'm living in the middle ages.
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The-UglyTruth Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
That's kind of what I was getting. It seems highly incredible to have that many people would suddenly decide to speak up. Not impossible, but it just seems odd.

I made an afterthought reply as to why they would need to dig up the body and remove trace of it, which I'm sure you've read by now.
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Novusforma Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Student General Artist
Yes I read it, I just can't cope how violent people are being. I just want to live in a civilized college educated world. Savile didn't hurt anyway of these people wanting to dig him up, they're just sick, I read FB everyday and I just want to delete everyone and move away.
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DevilDaggers Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
Dude was a necrophile, what do you think.
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CrimsonMagpie Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Saville was fucking disgusting, just look at that hair. :stare:

But in all seriousness, it's a great shame he's not alive to face the consequences of his actions. A witch-hunt is fully deserved in this instance, and the ritual destruction of his entire legacy and reputation is the right thing to do. Thankfully it seems like some of his accomplices are still alive to take some of the flak.
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Novusforma Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Student General Artist
No that would be terrible, and an attitude that belongs to the dark ages.
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CrimsonMagpie Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
It's far, far less vile than what Saville did when he was alive.
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Novusforma Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Student General Artist
Active crime > cold case
Of course if the later was active I would consider it more severe.
Why raise this anyway isn't deflecting from the situation some kind of fallacy? Such as X is okay because Y did worse. I don't think a lot of people get this.
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CrimsonMagpie Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
By that logic, once a robbery or a rape has been committed it's a cold case, since it's no longer in progress.
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Novusforma Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Student General Artist
Crimes from thirty odd years ago without a crime scene are cold case.
A robbery still would have a crime scene unless it happened years before in which case there would be no evidence. As would a rape scene.
You're deflecting from the topic.
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CrimsonMagpie Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
So you're saying that you don't think justice is a concept that has any place in society.
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Endeavor-To-Freefall Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
I didn't even like him when he wasn't a pedophile, he is somewhat of a scapegoat for the media though. He represents a much larger scale of sexual abuse within the entertainment industry and being dead makes him an easy target, not to mention he couldn't look like more of an old lech if he tried so it's easy to use him as a figurehead for an otherwise anonymous group. It was interesting to see Sky News run something about him once being questioned during the Yorkshire Ripper case, as if that has anything at all to do with his current allegations. Regardless, I care little about the man, I don't believe in the sanctity of death or that the dead should be honoured and remembered for any other purpose than for the peace of those grieving. When I'm dead feel free to dig me up, cut my body into pieces and molest the shattered shell that is my corpse, something tells me I won't give a crap.
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Novusforma Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Student General Artist
"When I'm dead feel free to dig me up, cut my body into pieces and molest the shattered shell that is my corpse, something tells me I won't give a crap."

That's not how a civilized society works. Sorry.
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Endeavor-To-Freefall Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
That has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. For your sake I hope you're simply trolling, the alternative scenario in which you genuinely believe the things you're saying is a dire one.
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Novusforma Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Student General Artist
You stated that you feel its okay to shit all over dead bodies.
I stated it isn't okay in a civilized society.
I'm right, and you're far right.
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Endeavor-To-Freefall Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
Actually, I said it has no impact on the person who's dead.
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Novusforma Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Student General Artist
LOL the internet is so far right.
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angelishi Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It's a corpse, the corpse doesn't care, the corpse didn't respect people while it was alive, why should other people respect it now that it's dead?
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Novusforma Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Student General Artist
Because we already came through the renaissance, the victorian age, and the industrial revolution?
We don't need to go back to the days of digging Cromwell up.
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