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May 22, 2012
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Shota/Loli

:icongul0gul0:
Gul0Gul0 Featured By Owner May 22, 2012
I'm tired of people freaking out over sexualized animations/drawings featuring underaged characters.
It's just a bunch of pixels, not a real kid! So calm the fuck down and go do something about REAL abuse!

Loli and shota PREVENTS people from watching the real thing, because it's one of the few alternatives.
Let us have our outlet, and shut the fuck up!
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ShugarSketch Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2012
HAHA! BANNED! :iconpedobearfapplz:
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:iconsilverhyacinth:
silverHyacinth Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
DA is safe now
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:iconshugarsketch:
ShugarSketch Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2012
We can all stop clenching our buttholes.
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:iconalice-hime:
alice-hime Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2012
I think mine is stuck. D:
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:iconshugarsketch:
ShugarSketch Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2012
to the butt plug store!
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alice-hime Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2012
:iconimsrspervplz:
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ShugarSketch Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2012
:iconbuttplugplz:
They need to make this plz.
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toxicproxy Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
well it's kind of a double-edged sword

if prevention is defined on terms of intensity (i.e. shota/loli < CP < engaging in sexual activities with children < killing them afterward < eating their bodies afterward) then the activity (in this case watching animated child porn)is no lesser than what it represents via association

anyone can rape a woman and say "hey, at least it prevented me from raping her daughter" but is that rape really impeding said person from doing so or is it just a false sense of justification

maybe you should see a doctor, they have pills for everything now-a-days
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:icongul0gul0:
Gul0Gul0 Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
I think raping someone isn't a very good thing to compare it to..
It's more like if someone enjoys watching rape-fetish porn and maybe enjoys a bit of roleplaying with their consenting partner. But never actually rapes someone, because they realize that that would be wrong.

And I am seeing a doctor..
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toxicproxy Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
CP is rape, mental rape

get well soon
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:iconfrankteller:
frankteller Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2012
What is mental rape?
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toxicproxy Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2012
Scarring someone who is not mentally ready for something that will most likely negatively affect them as they mature. That, or picturing raping someone in their mind. I was leaning more towards the former.
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:iconfightkismet:
fightkismet Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
There's this hot guy that works at the gas station by my house, I mentally rape him at least 3 times a week.
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:icon0rg:
0rg Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
jesus christ, please tell me you're not being serious
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:icongul0gul0:
Gul0Gul0 Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
Thanks..
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:iconfightkismet:
fightkismet Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
If I could make friends as well as you I wouldn't have turned into such a bitter bitch :aww:
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:icongul0gul0:
Gul0Gul0 Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
Maybe we can be each other's friends? =D
I see you like rats, snakes and pictures of people cutting themselves?
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:iconfightkismet:
fightkismet Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
That pretty much sums me up.
Let's hug it out :hug:
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:icongul0gul0:
Gul0Gul0 Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
Yay! Hugs! :iconfurryglompplz: :huggle: :hug:

I like rats a lot too. =D They're adorable.
Snakes are cool looking, but I don't really like them as pets.
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:iconfightkismet:
fightkismet Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
I've had many snakes as pets although I haven't any at the moment.
:iconimhappyplz:
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:icongul0gul0:
Gul0Gul0 Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
Can you really have an emotional connection with them? Or are they just cold-blooded eating machines?
I got two big clawed frogs. They're pretty cute, but they don't really have much of a personality..
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:iconfightkismet:
fightkismet Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
I personally find that I connect with them on an emotional level.
I love frogs! Toads also :love:
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:icongul0gul0:
Gul0Gul0 Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
But do you feel like they connect with you too? I might not seem like a very emotional person, but I do kinda want my pets to love me. =P

Yeah, frogs and toads are cute. =D Especially white's tree frogs, marine toads and clawed frogs.
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ISolitude Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012
It doesn't prevent anything, and these images can serve as triggers for people victimized by said monsters. I don't want it in my country and I'm going to continue freaking out about it :D If it upsets a pedophile, oh well I guess.
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:icon0rg:
0rg Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
People like you shouldn't hold office because they want to ban what's "gross" rather than what's "unconstitutional".
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:iconisolitude:
ISolitude Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
People like you shouldn't hold office because that would be a terrible place for a troll. Terrible for everyone but the troll, I mean. The troll would have a blast.
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:icon0rg:
0rg Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
"Everyone that disagrees with me is a troll!"

Try again. People like you shouldn't hold office because you're a bloody fucking idiot.
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:iconisolitude:
ISolitude Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
People like you shouldn't hold office because people like you aren't even particularly funny trolls.

Deeeeerp ur dumb fucking bloody deeeerp. Constitution.
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:icongul0gul0:
Gul0Gul0 Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
And which country is that?
You've got every right to freak out about, but preferably not somewhere where I have to deal with it.
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:iconisolitude:
ISolitude Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
The US, where this site is hosted. So you probably will.
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:icongul0gul0:
Gul0Gul0 Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
I don't think anyone has ever been arrested for owning/creating loli or shota in the US. So I think you'll probably have to deal with it being in your country.
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:iconisolitude:
ISolitude Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
?? Is all of your information based on wishful thinking?

comipress.com/special/miscellaneous/down-the-slippery-slope-the-crime-of-viewing-manga

That is how this guy did research too, and he went to prison for twenty years. Do a google search, don't just assume. Simulated pornography involving minors is illegal in the united states. A person could and would be arrested if caught, and yes it has happened.
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:icongul0gul0:
Gul0Gul0 Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
That's terrible.. I find it appalling that he went to jail for such a long time for committing a victimless "crime"..
I'm not aware of the laws in each specific country. I rarely visit the US, so I never felt the need to research the laws of your country.
I know it's illegal in Canada. I don't think any specific laws regarding the subject exist in the Netherlands and I haven't been able to find any cases.
So I think I'm pretty much safe here, for now..
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:iconfrankteller:
frankteller Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
If you post it to a US website, you are subject to US law.
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:icongul0gul0:
Gul0Gul0 Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2012
Well, dA already removed one drawing. They'll probably just remove whatever doesn't comply with their rules and the US laws.
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:iconisolitude:
ISolitude Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
He went to prison. You should probably double or triple check on that, and in the end, it'd be better to keep it off the internet.
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:icongul0gul0:
Gul0Gul0 Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2012
I don´t really know how to check.. Besides trying to find something on google. (Were I mainly found a bunch of Dutch people that were wondering about the same thing.)
There was one case I found, where the court decided that it was only child porn if it was so realistic that it's difficult for the average viewer to tell it apart from actual photo of video material.
But I'm not sure if their decision can change per case or not..

I don't upload any hardcore material. I don't think that anything in my gallery is enough to get someone arrested..
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:iconwyvernletdie:
WyvernLetDie Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012  Student Writer
Let us analyse three theories on ethics, shall we? I'll go into Utilitarianism (a branch of consequentialism), Deontology (particularly Emmanuel Kant's moral theory) and Virtue theory, paying close attention to Aristotle's construction of 'Eudaimonia'.

First of all, J.S Mill's Utilitarianism. Utilitarianism, if you are unaware, is the doctrine that actions are right if they are useful or if they benefit the majority, or if they add to the happiness of the majority. Mill defined happiness as "pleasure and the absence of pain". Why are we talking about this, you may ask? Well, whilst puberty usually occurs around the ages of 11 to 13, adolescence, the mental transition between childhood and adulthood (The Oxford Dictionary of English Etymology, C.T. Onions ed. Oxford University Press 1996 p. 720.), occurs later than this, around the age of 16 in the vast majority of people. This is the reason for age-of-consent laws, as they serve the majority and thus serve towards the majority's happiness. Whilst some individuals experience Precocious Puberty, i.e., early onset sexual maturity, this is only found in 2.5% of the population and does not include the mental maturity that adolescence brings, and neither does it effect that onset of mental maturity. It is for these reasons that the sexual consent laws exist, as to alter them would bring harm (i.e, a lack of pleasure or the presence of pain) towards 99.75% of the current pre-consent population, therefore disrupting the happiness of the majority and causing societal instability, out of line with the utilitarian society we operate within.

The first alternative ethical theory I mentioned was deontology; the belief that it is our actions and not the consequences of our actions create a system of right and wrong. The most quoted and supported theory of these is that of Emmanuel Kant. Kant believed that in order for a morally correct society, we should always make choices which are considered morally correct, regardless of the circumstances. In short; the Kantian theory of morality does not support any action which would require a 'case-by-case' evaluation to be deemed correct. Sex with a minor, regardless of sexual and mental maturity, is covered by this theory and is not allowed beneath this system either.

Finally; Virtue Theory - The theory that it is not our actions, nor their consequences, but the QUALITY of our actions that defines whether or not we are morally reprehensible. Aristotle claims that for an individual's life to be truly happy, they must attain Eudaimonia, which roughly translated means invested happiness, and for an individual to be considered morally correct, they must support the approachment of Eudaimonia in all mediums. Lust itself is not considered a virtue by Aristotle's theory, and even though this may not conform to modern views upon morality, the removal of another's freedom or the deliberate obstacle to an individual's Eudaimonia can be considered a morally reprehensible action; sex with a minor (i.e, someone who has yet to reach both mental and physical maturity) can be considered an obstacle to Eudaimonia, as it places a stain and an anchor on their path to happiness. They are not fully in control of the situation, and this often leads to deep psychological trauma.

There is only one moral theory that supports the actions of self; Egoism. Egoism would consider 'morality' to be an unnecessary obstacle in the way of your core happiness, and promotes that you act only for yourself, regardless of others. It is remarkable, as it is the only system adopted by the LeVayan Satanists as correct, and is not considered a moral system by any other group or academic board; nor by a society.

The intentions you have displayed throughout this thread are, frankly, disgusting. Whilst you cannot be judged for thoughts or urges; your actions or your intent to act upon those urges is something which you can and will be judged for. Now you are aware of the structure and argument against your beliefs, I hope you strongly reconsider them, if not for your own sake but for the sake of others.

As a final note, I might say that this response was not to the original question posed in the thread, but towards your consistent reply to many of the individuals wherein, claiming you supported sexual acts with a minor.
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:icongul0gul0:
Gul0Gul0 Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012
Thank you, that was very informative. And I guess that also explains why Satanism was so appealing to me when I was younger..

I don't know much about morals. I was mainly never interested in it because most of it seems like opinions, and seemed based on Judaic values.
But the Utilitarianism part seems logical and makes a lot of sense to me.
I wouldn´t want to cause harm to a large part of the young population..
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:iconwyvernletdie:
WyvernLetDie Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012  Student Writer
Correction, 97.5%, but the the point still stands.
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:icon21cm:
21cm Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012
My daughter will become a dick clawing little girl
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:icongul0gul0:
Gul0Gul0 Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012
..Okay.
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:icon21cm:
21cm Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012
NEVER have kids.
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:icongul0gul0:
Gul0Gul0 Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012
Chicks hate me and I doubt I'll be allowed to adopt. So don't worry about it.
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:icon21cm:
21cm Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012
gooooooood

everyone needs to hide their kids and their wife
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:icongul0gul0:
Gul0Gul0 Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012
I don't give a shit about their wives.
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:icon21cm:
21cm Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012
course, you give a shit about their child. BABY FUCK, ITS AWWWRIGHTT!
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:icongul0gul0:
Gul0Gul0 Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012
Nah, I'm not into babies.
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:icon21cm:
21cm Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012
im 16 and I look like im three years old. I'm so hot. Like seriously. Even 80 year olds wanna fuck me.
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:icongul0gul0:
Gul0Gul0 Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2012
Pics or it didn't happen. ;-)
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