This could be posted in either Complaints or Politics, as it fits in either, but I am going to put it here because IMHO I feel it fits better here. Make of that what you will.
I just wanted to share with you some rather interesting quotes I got from an article on a newspaper website I read. It featured radical ideas from a range of people, including scients, futurists and creative thinkers. I wanted to pick out the two vasting different quotes by two people in the subjet of science vs religion.
" Science must destroy religion
Our fear of provoking religious hatred has rendered us incapable of criticising ideas that are now patently absurd and increasingly maladaptive. It has also obliged us to lie to ourselves about the compatibility between religious faith and scientific rationality.
In the spirit of religious tolerance, most scientists keep silent when they should be blasting the hideous fantasies of a prior age with all the facts at their disposal.
Sam Harris, University of California, Los Angeles ".
Science encourages religion in the long run (and vice versa)
Ever since Edward Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, scientists and secularly-minded scholars have been predicting the ultimate demise of religion.
But, if anything, religious fervour is increasing across the world. An underlying reason is that science treats humans and intentions only as incidental elements in the universe, whereas for religion they are central.
Science is not well-suited to deal with people's existential anxieties, including death, deception, loneliness or longing for love or justice. It cannot tell us what we ought to do, only what we can do. Religion thrives because it addresses people's deepest emotional yearnings.
Scott Atran, Anthropologist, University of Michigan "
What I take from this, as I have understood for a long time now, is that science is very cold and lacking in feeling and emotion. It tries to explain how everything works, and tries to reduce our most innermost feelings and desires to simple brain activity and chemical reactions. It basically is the thinking of a robot.
Humans are an emotional species, and religion fulfills our need for emotional comfort and dependance, like what the quote directly above mentions. It is an intergral part of our being, and to destroy it is to destroy a part of ourselves emotionally.
Yes, but with science the goal is to explain why and how everything works. Why and how a human baby is formed and born, why the mother changes in shape and emotion responses, and why this causes the parents to experience emotions as a result of the eventual birth.
Where as with faith, or at least indifference, you just experience such feelings for what they are.
Well thats what I was hoping. I believe in both science and religion. Sure this might appear to people like an exersize in "doublethink", but thats just the way I see it.
Consoling yourself to a certain divine entity is fine & all, but that also means accepting the details that go with it, like different explanation of things. You can tell yourself that every answer to life's questions is God, or you can strive to know the truth, knowing the anxiety that you're going to get... but at the same time, maybe that anxiety of God is what's holding you back in the first place.
Or you can rather believe in Zen Buddhism & just don't care about it.
science is very cold and lacking in feeling and emotion
Funnily enough I'm working on looking at emotions in humans in evolution and its relationship to art an aesthetics. Rather because of all the biases you cite above few people have broached the subject and it badly needs to be done. Scientists need to embrace a little more of the humanities in their work as you are quite correct. Particularly in sytudying humans, raw data is relatively meaningless.
I wouldn't say that this requires religion per se, although in regards to the human experience, this cannot be ignored by science either.
I must say that the *more* I learn about science, the *more* I believe in God.
Please don't take this as a criticism but I'm interested in knowing how you reached that view. Overwhelmingly, as I have learned more my belief in God has been distinctly reduced
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I just wanted to share with you some rather interesting quotes I got from an article on a newspaper website I read. It featured radical ideas from a range of people, including scients, futurists and creative thinkers. I wanted to pick out the two vasting different quotes by two people in the subjet of science vs religion.
" Science must destroy religion
Our fear of provoking religious hatred has rendered us incapable of criticising ideas that are now patently absurd and increasingly maladaptive. It has also obliged us to lie to ourselves about the compatibility between religious faith and scientific rationality.
In the spirit of religious tolerance, most scientists keep silent when they should be blasting the hideous fantasies of a prior age with all the facts at their disposal.
Sam Harris, University of California, Los Angeles ".
Science encourages religion in the long run (and vice versa)
Ever since Edward Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, scientists and secularly-minded scholars have been predicting the ultimate demise of religion.
But, if anything, religious fervour is increasing across the world. An underlying reason is that science treats humans and intentions only as incidental elements in the universe, whereas for religion they are central.
Science is not well-suited to deal with people's existential anxieties, including death, deception, loneliness or longing for love or justice. It cannot tell us what we ought to do, only what we can do.
Religion thrives because it addresses people's deepest emotional yearnings.
Scott Atran, Anthropologist, University of Michigan "
What I take from this, as I have understood for a long time now, is that science is very cold and lacking in feeling and emotion. It tries to explain how everything works, and tries to reduce our most innermost feelings and desires to simple brain activity and chemical reactions.
It basically is the thinking of a robot.
Humans are an emotional species, and religion fulfills our need for emotional comfort and dependance, like what the quote directly above mentions. It is an intergral part of our being, and to destroy it is to destroy a part of ourselves emotionally.