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`faggus:iconfaggus: May 16, 2006, 11:15:32 AM
What do you think?
For those of you not in the know, the Stuckists ( [link] ) are a so called "international (non) movement" of artists who oppose conceptual and postmodern art. They make a lot of fuss at events like the Turner prize, and are a colourful bunch. They are definitely pro painting.
Their manifestos, news clippings etc are on their site.
What's your opinion on their ideas towards the current scene in British and International art? What's your opinion of their art itself, their public actions? etc etc.

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`saintartaud:iconsaintartaud: May 16, 2006, 1:46:33 PM
It seems more localized in Britain, although there are quite a few folks outside who are connected. I like a lot of what they represent, even though I don't precisely agree with everything they're about. Some of the work is quite good, others not too dissimilar from the sort of "low" art and so-called Pop-Surrealism one finds in Juxtapoz magazine. Or even those who label their style as "outsider" (which I take issue with). I do think they represent something absolutely necessary if Art is to ever get over this Post-Modern hangover.

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`faggus:iconfaggus: May 17, 2006, 2:52:14 AM
Thanks

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*0-Hermit-0:icon0-Hermit-0: May 17, 2006, 3:31:56 AM
Pretty rigid and unaccepting, to be honest. Then again, I did only glance at their manifesto.

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`faggus:iconfaggus: May 17, 2006, 5:12:44 AM
What do you think of modern, postmodernist art?

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~Azraeldrah:iconAzraeldrah: May 17, 2006, 5:27:18 AM
'Artists who do not paint are not artists" My thoughts on that line in their manifesto: Piss off!

though i do agree that alot artists at the moment are concentraiting on being clever rather than on art itself... if you get what i mean?

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*Luighseach:iconLuighseach: May 17, 2006, 5:44:46 AM
Remodernism heralds a new epoch and is the antidote to the spiritual bankruptcy of Post Modernism. Remodernism stands for content, meaning and communication - subjectivity, emotional engagement, integrity, love, enthusiasm and a spiritual renaissance in society, art and the creative life.

Well... yeah, I can see the point in that. I've never really liked the 'it has to be new to be art'-mentality that seems to be the essence of all contemporary art. My greatest annoyance with conceptual art, is that a lot of people don't pay any attention to the execution of the idea at all and just produce something sloppy, while still calling it art because of the idea. I think it's good to make people aware that art is much more than just something that hasn't been done before. I do think this 'stuckism' is overreacting, though. If people want to make post-modern art, let them! It's their choice! I can see why they think their art has more value, but it's really not for them to act upon that judgment, because someone might have put as much soul in their post-modern artwork as they did in their idyllic landscape. So... mixed feelings on this one.

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*jam-techno:iconjam-techno: May 17, 2006, 5:46:05 AM
As far as 'art' goes, I don't think any of us are qualified to make any assumptions about the movement. I've seen some of their work before and I've really liked what I've seen. There's a quote by someone I can't remember, but they said that painting had reached its peak in terms of movements once it reached abstraction, so I suppose in a way all of us painters are Stuckists. And that quote by yet another person I don't rememeber their name, who said that 'all intelligent thoughts have already been thought, what is important is thinking them again'
I also am a firm believer in the fact that 'digital' art doesn't hold as high a status as a painting, because in a painting you have to manually control the medium in every way, and in digital art, you're letting a computer control the medium for you. There's a poll on DA today as to what sort of art people make and I'm personally appalled at how many people have stuck themselves into digital art, and in a way, they are the ones who are 'stuck' behind their computer screens confined by the code of the programs they use, the size of their screens, and the resolution of their printer.
A lot of people would be quick to label Stuckists as Traditionalists, and indeed painting has been incorrectly labeled 'traditional art'... I think that's the thing which disgusts me the most to be honest. Us 'traditional' artists are MODERN artists, not in the media we use, or the amount of technological ability, but in the art we make. And isn't that what matters in the end of the day?
I'll stop... I've strayed far enough from the point ;p

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`faggus:iconfaggus: May 17, 2006, 12:31:58 PM
I agree with you on that that - that's not a good point at all. I think an architect can be an artist too, for instance.

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'Eternity?' - said Frankie Lee
With a voice as cold as ice
'That's right' said Judas: 'Eternity -
'Though you might call it paradise.'
`faggus:iconfaggus: May 17, 2006, 12:33:58 PM
I guess what they've overreacting about is specifically the art market in the UK - even though it's anyone's choice whether to do postmodern art or not, it's not their choice whether it gets bought by charles saatchi, who is the only major player in the art market here, and favours britart.

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'Eternity?' - said Frankie Lee
With a voice as cold as ice
'That's right' said Judas: 'Eternity -
'Though you might call it paradise.'
`faggus:iconfaggus: May 17, 2006, 12:36:24 PM
I agree with you about the mislabelling of categories on this site :D have you ever seen the DA definition of "romantic poetry"? :giggle:
Anyway, thanks for the detailed reply.

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'Eternity?' - said Frankie Lee
With a voice as cold as ice
'That's right' said Judas: 'Eternity -
'Though you might call it paradise.'