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Memorising and Reciting Poetry

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julietcaesar Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Have you ever memorised and recited a poem by heart before? Multiple poems? If so, did it make you appreciate the poem more? How did you go about trying to memorise it and to recite it?

This was mostly provoked by someone telling me recently that reciting memorised poetry would be a good way to improve my speaking skills. So here's to me trying to find out if that's true by memorising and reciting one every month, and wondering if anyone has done it before and wants to share their experience.
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Quelythe Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
As a kid I remember memorizing a few poems, mostly for the heck of it -- The Walrus and the Carpenter was one, and then there was some rendition of Cinderella by Roald Dahl (which was heaps of fun, as I recall). There are a couple of poems that I've recently discovered I've mostly memorized, just because I read them often enough. I've liked it, knowing that a few of my favourite poems have taken up residence in some little part of me which I can always come back to.

There's only been one poem I've intentionally memorized in the more recent past, and I think it helped that it had a very definite meter and rhyme. I think it might be slightly harder with free-verse because then you have to make a judgement call on how you want a certain line to be said. As for technique I just tackled it verse by verse, going over it a bunch of times. Repetition is key here, I think. And stubbornness perhaps. :P I've never recited a poem to an audience though, but I have recorded a few readings. Actually, I've found that listening back to the takes is really helpful to hear which words aren't being enunciated well enough, and to pinpoint where the flow is awkward or where the cadence doesn't work. So that might be a good way to practice.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
"The way to read a poem is often." - Kenneth Smeaton
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TwistedAlyx Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I tried and I fucked it up because I didn't study it hard enough. Oops. Live and learn, eh? I just sort of repeated it to myself over and over.
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TheNimster Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I think force memorizing isn't the right way to go.I memorize a lot of things spontaneously ,by liking them much and reading over and over again .Same goes for recitals ,when I consider something I am reciting great I have no stage fright and even enjoy accenting and sharing what I learned with others .
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vglory Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013
I did this when I had a cleaning job and was so bored I needed something to occupy my mind. Being able to recite a few Shakespearean sonnets has been fairly useful, actually. If only to appear a bit educated at parties....
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Orange-Zeppelin Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
It's always easier to remember something you have written down, so when I need to memorize a poem that's my first step. If you just take the poem a few lines or a stanza at a time (depending on the poem's length)then you can tackle the whole thing systematically. Also if you hear someone else recite it it should stay in your mind better. I just started trying to memorize the prologue to the Canterbury Tales in Middle English, so I really want to find good audio of it. (I don't really know how to pronounce Middle English properly!)
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Vigilo Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Student Writer
Some, yes, - I go from poem to poem and sometimes even just lines, but I have a few I'll always remember, like Jabberwocky or The Stolen Child. I like memorising poems and being able to quote them. I'm going to try doing it for my own poems when I get the time, as I believe it'll really help with sorting out word choices, and editing and the like. I haven't ever memorised poems for speaking to an audience - just for selfish reasons, really - but I've heard that it helps with speaking and articulation.

I just usually reread them - it's easier with rhyming, traditional forms. I haven't memorised a full free verse poem yet, so there's that. Like `HaveTales-WillTell said, #Elocutionists are great for spoken poetry. :nod: :heart:
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julietcaesar Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Memorising your own poems would be awesome. I would love to hear you recite them one day! :)

Do you think free verse poetry is harder to memorise than rhyming poetry, or they have their own challenges?
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TheGlassIris Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
The ease with which one memorizes a poem depends upon length, difficulty of language, and emotional attachment. Say for instance we compare a piece of free verse with metered work (e.g. something like Mina Loy's "Lunar Baedeker" versus Frost's "Stopping By Woods On a Snowy Evening) obviously, Loy's piece would be exceedingly difficult compared to the masterful simplicity of Frost. A style of writing which utilizes multi-syllabic rhythms through heavy words would very much be hard to memorize, regardless of whether metered or meter-less.

I recommend for those staring off with recitation with a combination of simple pieces: Ha Jin's "Ways of Talking", Shel Silverstein, Dr. Seuss, Robert Frost. Metered poetry is often easier to memorize because of the naturally anticipatory language but there are some difficult pieces out there that use obscure feet and combinations of traditional forms.

It's definitely a good idea to start with something simple, that you like, and is not too long.
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Mr-Timeshadow Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013
I've done it many times. I was on the speech team, and I competed in the poetry rounds every year. I would learn a ten-minute presentation every year, usually consisting of three or four poems and introductions / transitions for them.
I have also memorized poetry for my own fun. Back in junior high, I walked to school every day, a journey of roughly fifteen minutes. I spent the time, one year, learning The Lorax. In that case, I would try to add one new stanza every day, and then recite from the beginning to that stanza, until I eventually finished it. I now know the whole thing, and performed it live at a local Barnes and Noble (they had a weekly poetry reading by anyone who signed up). In high school, I also learned The Charge of the Light Brigade for fun.
In each case, I created a persona for that piece. This included a distinctive character voice when the poem called for it, and sometimes a unique voice for my narrator, to better convey who I felt he was. That helped me appreciate the cadences of each voice, as well as any humor in the pieces. In speech, you are also supposed to establish "focal points": places on the opposing wall that you look when you are a specific character. This helps to cue the audience as to who you are playing. You might not be in a position to do this, though, if you aren't reading in a room to an audience.
I can tell you that we were graded in part on projection, enunciation, and vocal color, so we had to learn to speak clearly without becoming automatons...
Does this help at all? I'm happy to answer any more questions if it'll help...
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julietcaesar Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
That was really informative, thanks! :) Actually, it might be something worth pursuing in a little book club/writer's club that I'm trying to start up at my uni. I'll definitely get back to you if I have more questions.
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Mr-Timeshadow Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013
Ah, glad to hear it! By all means, get that group going, and I will be happy to answer anything else I can. Ask away as needed!
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neurotype Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
What aspect of speaking skills are you trying to improve? I'm the naturally boisterous type and started off memorising presentations way back when, from what I remember I've never memorized a poem. (Unless singing the first verse of 'La Marseillase' from memory in front of class counts? Hm, it might.)

But anyway, the point I actually meant to make is that there's a gap between dramatic readings and just projecting, etc., all the good standard speaker stuff--I couldn't tell which one you were going for.
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julietcaesar Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
It's probably more of a projection issue for me, although dramatic readings wouldn't hurt- just because you might appreciate the poem in a different way. :) I guess I wasn't trying to use reciting poetry aloud as a primary way to improve speaking, but I was curious in general about whether it does help, and if it has any benefits for any other reason. :)
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neurotype Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Ooooh. I would expect it to have the same benefits in general (projection, audience, body language), with the added advantage of having a lot more emphasis on a planned (rather than just colloquial speech) rhythm.

As far as dramatic readings goes, we had this one girl in our class who was just brilliant at it. Made even those of us who were poetically-challenged get an emotion out of it.
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Zodia-Mocking-Bird Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Professional Artist
I'm a songwriter and of course you really have to know your material before you perform. The way I always ALWAYS do it, is a trick you use to remember random things like the keyboard. (Yes, I know where every letter on the qwerty keyboard is off by heart and can receit it.) You say the 1st line aloud, then the 2nd and the 1st, then the 3rd, the 2nd and 1st etc etc, it builds a kind of flow in your mind, I dont know how but it always seems to work. Food for thought. :)
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julietcaesar Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Sounds like a good trick! I'll try it out. :)
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I re-read it a lot.

'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves,
did gyre and gimble in the wabe.
All mimsy were the borogoves,
and the mome raths outgrabe.

And more than 30 years later I can still rattle off "Jabberwocky" without even thinking about it.
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julietcaesar Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I always saw 'Jabberwocky' as a tongue-twister and thus hard for me to memorise, because I would just stumble over the pronunciation for most of the words!
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
It's not a tongue-twister. It's a linguistic puzzle. The pronunciations isn't hard; you just have to figure it out.
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DorianHarper Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Professional Writer
In my one English class in high school, we had to memorize a different poem every two weeks ^^; I had a bunch of them I knew by heart, but sadly forgot the most of these days. However, I can still pull pieces of them if I want, but not the entire piece anymore. As for my own poetry, I've only ever memorized one poem that I wrote that I had to read at a local poetry reading night.
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julietcaesar Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I think that's a common problem, when you memorise something and then don't pull on that memory of the poem after a while. But a few lines can be better than nothing, especially if they were really striking lines.
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HaveTales-WillTell Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Professional Writer
I memorize poems all the time, and reciting them does help with things like word stress, pacing and emotional flow. If you can sound natural speaking someone else's words, multiply that by ten when relaying your own.

But I don't think that my particular memorization technique will help you, given that it's based on a quirk of my brain. (I have hyperlexia.) In fact, I sometimes have to work to not memorize certain things, such as the oft-repeated "Call now!" phone numbers in TV adverts.

Have you considered joining #Elocutionists? Or at least listening to what they produce?
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julietcaesar Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I haven't joined #Elocutionists, but I'll certainly give them a watch and listen to what they produce for some ideas myself! :)
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HaveTales-WillTell Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Professional Writer
Awesome. 8-)
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archelyxs Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013
Good question! Yes, I have. I have several poems memorized in English and Latin, and I have memorized all of my own poems (the good ones!). It makes you pay really close attention to the syntax and the rhythm of the poem. I think all poets should do this.
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julietcaesar Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
English and Latin! I am impressed. Do you find yourself stressing different words or changing up the rhythm when saying the poems in the two different languages? (That is, if reading your comment correctly, you have memorised poems that were written in Latin and translated into English or vice versa?)
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archelyxs Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013
Yes, definitely. All Latin poetry is very mechanically metered, and it's practically impossible to maintain that meter in an English translation. Latin poetry doesn't allow for the same freedom of emphasis that English poetry does; there is a correct way to read it, while in English poetry, that is up to interpretation. (:
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thetaoofchaos Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013   Writer
I've done that maybe once or twice.  I don't know that memorizing a poem would improve one's poetic speaking as much as just reading many poems aloud.  Also, it's cool when you can find recordings of poems by the original poet - that might also help.  Good luck!
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julietcaesar Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I'll definitely check out the original recordings. Thanks! :)
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TristanCody Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Student Writer
Well, memorizing, in most cases, is easy. I would suggest starting small (like a Dickinson poem) and re-reading it until it is in your head (or even write it down a couple times, that always helps). Once it is memorized recite the poem over-and-over again. Each time working on your flow, your execution, the way you present yourself and clearly your are enunciating each word.

That is how i have always done it and eventually, when you write poems, you will be able to recite them after just writing them. It takes time, but it is very doable.
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julietcaesar Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
All good points! :) I might actually try out a Dickinson poem, mostly because I'm tutoring Dickinson to a student and it would be handy if I could memorise one or two of them just to get the feel of her poetry. :)
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TristanCody Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Student Writer
I see. Well, I am glad I could be of some service. Best of luck!
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