Oh my gosh, yes. It's like clicking that button suddenly opens one up to critiques and harshness that wasn't there before. And the fact that after you click that button you can't edit the text unless you submit it and then edit it again, really doesn't help.
I'm not a machine focusing on the technics. Would writing elsewhere help? In many cases it would. I'm not obligated to confine to your standards of writing, do things you consider to be maximum effort, and produce a piece you want. The thing about art is sometimes it comes out and the majority of people think it's effortless shit. But to that person, and maybe even a few others, it means something. Look at the abstract painters, who throw paint at canvases. Some people cry when they see it and pay thousands for it, while others (even including myself) ponder what the fuck the big deal is.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not unwilling to improve, I take critique and I thank people. But I hate when people talk like douchebags about other people's effort like they own this site and everything has to meet their criteria.
Sorry to shove this whole rant on you, it's more towards a whole idea, but I had to get it off my chest. It's just these kind of elitist cynical fucks piss me off more than any dumbfuck posting shitty sonic animu doodles or idiot making sparkledogs with messed up anatomy. At least they don't think they own the site and talk a bunch of snarky shit everywhere like they have to compensate for something.
I'm not being elitist or cynical. What I'm saying is that if you're putting your work out there for an audience -- which you are -- you need to consider that. What is your best work? How do you create your best work?
And I will say this -- Jackson Pollock? Pablo Picasso? They, like so many abstract artist, were studied and skilled in traditional, realist painting.
No, don't have this problem. Why not write your first draft down on something else whether it is paper or a word possessor before uploading it to DA? Planning and having the ability to edit before uploading goes a long way.
That's because it's haunted by anti-poetry ghosts. Why not write up a first draft in Word or something, edit and re-work that copy a bit and then copy-paste it into the submission box once you're happy with it? That's what I do.
Composing poetry in the input box is like a visual artist drawing with DrawPLZ. It's fine for simple, casual stuff, but no good at all for serious work. Submitting is a cut-and-paste job for serious writers.
Sorry I didn't thank you earlier, summed up the general answer to this thread quite classily. It's weird, for most of the time I've written, I find I've always been better in bursts, relying on the muse at the moment. I always remember what a friend of mine who I really looked up to and actually wrote great stuff of his own told me, that when you edit something from what you originally intended of it, you lose some of what you were originally went for. It made me rethink writing a lot, that it's not always a long term process so much as having the right muse at the right moment and having enough energy and will to carry it out. Of course there's a bit of balance involved as well, I mean there's always quick edits but overall I try not to butch it too much from how it was "born", persay.
I think it's true that editing can sometimes shift your work away from what you originally intended, but I also think that can be a good thing. I've written quite a few stories where the single best change I made was a complete step away from the original idea, and I think that's often because the original idea wasn't quite as good as it could have been. And sometimes, I think the editing can actually make your work more faithful to your original idea. You can cut unnecessary details that might distract readers, and you can add new details that illustrate your point more clearly.
Worrying about moving away from your original idea through editing sounds to me a little like worrying about losing your original sketch by painting over it. It's a legitimate concern--it can/will happen--but if you want to produce something great then you'll have to deal with it sometime.
You're right, and you can find a balance in between. I'm not saying rough drafts always suck. Heck, if you can remember to cram in all the important stuff that you'd usually forget in the rough draft, sometimes all you need to do when you edit is spell check and do some word rearranging.
The way I see, writing something when it comes to your mind is a great way to capture it. Sometimes though, you're so focused on just getting it out that you can miss important details. Editing to me is just as important as actually writing it out, possibly even more sometimes. It turns that rough piece of coal you've found in your mind into a nice shiny diamond.
Most important though, is to just keep writing, even if you never get past that rough draft stage. If you never write you never improve.