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Keeping it fresh

:icongoreblowndeer:
Goreblowndeer Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I see a lot of the same nauseating drivel recycled over and over on here - heartbroken teen angst poems, lame fanfics, cliched garbage about life and love - what do you do to try and keep ideas new and interesting?

I usually write a lot of stream of consciousness, then go back, take the parts I like, reword parts I think could be better, and cut the crap as they say. Whether it's effective is another story, but of course, I think it's somewhat effective. I mostly write poetry though.
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:iconmr-timeshadow:
Mr-Timeshadow Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012
Originality is vital to me. I sometimes run through my work and look for themes, images, and other elements that I may be repeating without even knowing it. One example is dyads. I found that without noticing it, I was writing stories about dyad-based conflict. Now, I try to find new themes and structures for my work. Of course, every time I shut a door because "I've done it already", writing becomes tougher yet again. I create less, but also enjoy it more when I actually manage to write something.
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:iconrovanna:
Rovanna Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012   Digital Artist
For a sec, I thought you meant 'dryads' and I was like, 'you must be keen for dryads.' :lol:
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:iconmr-timeshadow:
Mr-Timeshadow Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012
Oh, yes -- typo! I meant "dryads" because I'm hot for them! :D
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:iconrovanna:
Rovanna Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012   Digital Artist
I see the way you look at that pine tree across the road. :eyes:
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:iconmr-timeshadow:
Mr-Timeshadow Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012
Hey, she was slowly slipping off her cones -- in public! How could I resist that exhibitionist? She makes my sap run...
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:iconcarusmm:
carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Style is substance.
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:icongoreblowndeer:
Goreblowndeer Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
very true
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:iconrovanna:
Rovanna Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012   Digital Artist
What were you actually hoping to get out of this thread? :iconfryplz:
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:icongoreblowndeer:
Goreblowndeer Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
hehe, I think you know if you're asking that
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:iconrovanna:
Rovanna Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012   Digital Artist
Well I hope you had fun trolling, mate.
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:icongoreblowndeer:
Goreblowndeer Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
not as much as usual
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:iconraspil:
raspil Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012   Writer
probably exactly what he's getting. a load of shit so he can cry about how the world hates him. i have no patience for drama queens like this.
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:iconrovanna:
Rovanna Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012   Digital Artist
I reckon he just wants a good trollololololo :icontrololoplz:

(But we can't understand because of our own inadeqecies, maaaan! :giggle:)
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:iconneurotype:
neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm so inadequate, I'm chagrinning!
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:iconrovanna:
Rovanna Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012   Digital Artist
Better go and "stream of conciousness" some writing then.
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:iconneurotype:
neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I'll stream...a lot of things. :eyes:
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:iconraspil:
raspil Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012   Writer
:thumbsup:

now, i've been projected on here by kids in the past but this is some North Korean nuclear projection here today. the more he thinks he knows how i am is just him telling me (and all of us) how he really is.

:iconnothingtodohereplz:
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:iconrovanna:
Rovanna Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012   Digital Artist
:iconnothingtodohereplz:
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:iconwitwitch:
witwitch Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Student Writer
I noticed. It was pretty funny to watch. :lol:
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:iconraspil:
raspil Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012   Writer
it was definitely weird. but knowing he's projecting, i didn't feel the need to defend myself so i just resorted to insults. why not, you know? i'm working with what i've got in front of me.
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:iconwitwitch:
witwitch Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Student Writer
I figured. He's definitely got his head pretty far up his ass because he can't see fuckin' anything.
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:iconraspil:
raspil Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012   Writer
nauseating drivel? that's all you write, dude. "To Fuck A Girl" -- you are fucked up and sick for that. no wonder you're taking your fucking anger out here. better you do it here than on someone in a skirt too short, huh? sick asshole.
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:iconwitwitch:
witwitch Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Student Writer
Seriously. I checked out his gallery. It's full of misogynistic bullshit. The feminist in me rages. Did you see Rape "Victim"? This fucker honestly believes women shouldn't be able to go out at night wearing what they want.

The best part is he is totally in denial about it. He actually told me he is against sexism. Hah. This guy's a fucking character.
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:iconraspil:
raspil Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012   Writer
if he's a day over 18, then my heart really weeps for him and anyone who has to deal with him in real life. good thing video game characters don't judge you ;-)
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:icongoreblowndeer:
Goreblowndeer Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
look, I get people like you; you try to bring others down because of your own inadequacies. I'm sorry for you man, I hope it's just a phase, honestly, and maybe you'll grow out of it. Here's hoping. Cheers.
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:iconraspil:
raspil Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012   Writer
do people tell you that a lot? that they hope your woman-hating small-dick syndrome thing you have here is just a phase?
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:icongoreblowndeer:
Goreblowndeer Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
yep, just like someone like you to fail to see the humor in things and try to take them seriously
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:iconraspil:
raspil Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012   Writer
if there's one thing in this world you need to stop taking so fucking seriously it's yourself. see you on the news, pappy.
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:icongoreblowndeer:
Goreblowndeer Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I... I take MYSELF seriously? If you read anything of mine, you'll see I take almost nothing seriously. But, it doesn't surprise me you lack any insight into such things.
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:iconraspil:
raspil Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012   Writer
i did read what you write. now, how was To Fuck A Girl not a serious piece from an individual such as yourself? do you really not feel that? are you an angry virgin?
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:icongoreblowndeer:
Goreblowndeer Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
It's a humorous poem. In fact, my first girlfriend from when I was 17 who I lost my virginity to commented on the poem about when we first started having sex. Dumbass.
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:iconraspil:
raspil Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012   Writer
ideas are ideas. it's how they are executed. if you use the same old settings and characters and conflicts, yes, your work will grow hair on it. do the opposite and see what you get.

and if there's one thing i hate more than crimson river poetry, it's stream of consciousness ANYTHING. try harder. get out of your head and give us something to read.
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:iconsaintartaud:
saintartaud Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Professional General Artist
I like stream of consciousness as a style, actually, but I hate that people think it means "vomit stuff onto page and hope it sticks." That is *not* how Faulkner or Joyce wrote, guys. That shit was revised and re-revised and very intentionally crafted. Even Finnegans Wake, believe it or not.
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:iconwitwitch:
witwitch Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Student Writer
I'm preparing to take the plunge and read Finnegan's Wake. Would it be advisable to read Ulysses first?
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:iconsaintartaud:
saintartaud Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Professional General Artist
I haven't read either one yet TBH. I did read about one-quarter of Ulysses when I was younger; it was interesting, but I didn't have the time/patience to finish it while working and attending school full-time. I won't even touch Finnegans Wake until I finish it. My boyfriend has been reading it for like 5 years off and on.

My suggestion would be to work in order from Dubliners on. The stories in that book are written in a fairly straightforward manner for the period, and in each work after you can see a gradual progression of style, going about as far as you can go in Finnegans Wake. It's basically a set of dreams over the course of one night interrupting by a bathroom break. My understanding is that Wilder's Skin of Our Teeth is based on the central concept. It's a pretty weird play, but not too hard to get.
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:iconwitwitch:
witwitch Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Student Writer
Hmmm. Alright. I'm already halfway through Dubliners. I was going to pick up Portrait of an Artist next. I'll check out Skin of Our Teeth as well (since it is easier to understand than Finnegan's Wake) before I take the plunge.
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:iconsaintartaud:
saintartaud Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Professional General Artist
:thumbsup:
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:iconneurotype:
neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, seriously! I'm guilty of making this mistake.
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:iconsaintartaud:
saintartaud Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Professional General Artist
A lot of people do. I don't know if it's way the term is taught or what.
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:iconneurotype:
neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I think it's partially intuitive.
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:iconsaintartaud:
saintartaud Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Professional General Artist
Well, if someone isn't taught the correct definition of the term, then yeah, they're going off best guess. I think the assumption is that it's from your stream of consciousness, rather than an effort to write something that resembles it. Does that make any sense?
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:iconneurotype:
neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes!

Adding to that, I even know that the style of writing takes a lot of work, but I still conflate the two. I think part of the issue is never remembering the term 'free writing.'
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:iconraspil:
raspil Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012   Writer
yes, SOC is page vomit that they think should not be tampered with because it's emotional and it's raw. so is chicken from the store. but when you add mirepoix and seasonings and cook it in the oven at 350-degrees for an hour, it becomes something you can get some benefit from as opposed to food poisoning.
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:iconsaintartaud:
saintartaud Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Professional General Artist
Nice analogy.
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:iconraspil:
raspil Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012   Writer
thank you.
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:icongoreblowndeer:
Goreblowndeer Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
way to dismiss a whole style of writing just because you're not good at it :D
It's no wonder you suck at it since you're so closed minded
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:iconsaintartaud:
saintartaud Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Professional General Artist
Your work is not stream of consciousness. I'm not sure you have a correct understanding of what that word actually means.
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:icongoreblowndeer:
Goreblowndeer Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Well, like I said, after SOC, I take and refine them so it is no longer what it started out as
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:iconsaintartaud:
saintartaud Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Professional General Artist
"After SOC"... This tells me you don't have an understanding of what stream of consciousness is. It's a particular style of writing, not a method of production. Like I said in my reply to your OP, what you're doing sounds more like free or automatic writing.

I used to write poetry that way when I was younger. I'm not sure it's generally the best way to produce work.
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tiganusi Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Professional
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