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P.O.V.??? (Point of View)

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AkatsukiEmi Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Student Artist
Okay, so, i'm REALLY confused! I NEED some help!

I'm writing a novel but here's my problem:
The beginning of the book, there are LOTS of things that are EXTREMELY important to the story line that happen behind the main character's back. The 2nd half, I want the reader to see everything from the main character's eyes because... Well, I can't see that part from ANY OTHER perspective.

So here are my 2 options right now:
Start the book in 3rd Person and half-way through, change it to 1st
OR
Write the entire book in 1st person but have the main character learn about the things that happened behind her back as the series progresses(in the book. This will also include some mystery that will make the reader want to continue reading~ :D)

Which should I do? PLEASE HELP!
If it helps at all, this book will be the first of 4 and it's a fantasy.
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VampireNyan Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
some of the chapters could be 1st person, and then every other or every third could be a short chapter in 3rd person...:)
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TheNAUGHTicalLife Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Professional Writer
If you kept it in constant third-person you would have to keep in mind where on the timeline you need them to occur and work it in when the protagonist learns them, if said events are important to the story. I think splitting the novel in two sections and layering them would be interesting.
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hetha884 Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Having the book change from 3rd to first can be really confusing, I did something like that with mine and it started to confuse me think about how the readers would have felt. Having all the book in first person sounds like the better :D and you can add more description because of the characters looks and personality. I hope I helped.
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AkatsukiEmi Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Student Artist
thanks~!
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hetha884 Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
no problem :)
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SapphireDean Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
both are good ideas but I'd go with the second one for more appeal that way people will really want to read it
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raspil Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012   Writer
[link]

that is a link on point of view that helped me when i needed help.

it's your book, tell it the way it needs to be told. you're doing the work, do what is best for the story first and what's easier on you second at this point.

ever written a novel before?
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MadOldHag Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks for the link. In an indirect way it helped me to solve some issues. And suddenly, everything starts to make sense ...
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raspil Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012   Writer
her tutorials are fantastic. i'd still be years behind without her help. and she's totally friendly (but just as direct as i tend to be).
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MadOldHag Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Being direct is not a bad thing, of what help would false compliments be? There is a difference between being just direct and insulting people. I think I know the difference.
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raspil Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012   Writer
I think I know the difference.

if only everyone could be so intuitive.
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MadOldHag Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
"Your story sucks and is the worst crap I've ever read." is an insult.
"Your characters lack personality and need more workout, there also is no real plot, you should have a conflict the characters have to deal with." is not.
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raspil Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012   Writer
the first one is a troll, yes.

the second one is at least specific BUT doesn't offer up any possible ideas on how to improve, which to me, is not as useless but not the best help in the world, either.
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MadOldHag Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Just an example. Harsh critique *can* hurt the first moment, but if so, I take a deep breath, wait ten seconds (an hour or overnight when I am suffering from PMS), then read it again. This is something I'd suggest to everyone: when you get a seemingly negative comment, do not respond immediately. Take a break and read it again thoroughly. Avoids misunderstandings.
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AkatsukiEmi Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Student Artist
Thanks for the help~! And I have written one but I didn't like it enough to try to get it published.
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raspil Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012   Writer
i would suggest you slow down a little bit and deal with how to tell a story first.
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vglory Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012
Perhaps your readers should find out as/when your main character does.
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AkatsukiEmi Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Student Artist
Thanks for the help!~
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merrak Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist
POV aside, are those extremely important things part of the actual story line, or just setup and background information? I ask because if the latter case describes your story, you may want to drop us into the main character's perspective and have him/her/the cat learn about things as they're needed. Without knowing anything else about your story, I think it will be easier to keep your reader engaged via this route.
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AkatsukiEmi Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Student Artist
The important things that happen are a part of the story line; they aren't background information. And thanks for the help~!
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neomerlin Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Student Writer
As the others have said, it is possible to write in third person but sticking to a character's POV. It's done all the time. I recently read a book that had a handful of protagonists everybody got their POV seen, including their internal monologue at times. The whole book was in third person.
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AkatsukiEmi Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Student Artist
Thank you for the help~
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Professional General Artist
They taught you about limited 3rd person in school, right? There's no reason you have to switch to first in order to focus the story through the perspective of a particular character. You just shift around in the narrative, limiting the information to what the character sees, feels, or experiences. Many 3rd person narratives employ this kind of strategy and it works well enough. So well that you probably didn't notice consciously what the writer was doing.

Of course, there's no reason you can't switch to 1st person, but you need to have a strong reason beyond limiting information and it needs to be connected logically to some kind of framing device. For instance, you might have read a 3rd person narrative that switched to 1st because part of it was a letter, a diary, or something similar. If the narrative just switches to 1st for no obvious reason and the reasoning never becomes apparent, then it's going to be pointless and confusing.

Lastly, 1st person throughout would be the easiest way to handle this, but again, the framing and reasoning behind the approach needs to be apparent and purposeful. The other danger is that by limiting yourself to that perspective in 1st person, there might be info that you'd like to dispense that's impossible. I actually considered this strategy for a novel I wrote, as well as the 1st/3rd combo, but it ended up being so limited to unwieldy that I decided 3rd person was the best approach.
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AkatsukiEmi Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Student Artist
Thank you SOOO much for the help!!! It helped a LOT!
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Professional General Artist
Cool. It's really all about thinking thoroughly through your story, applying what you've read, and figuring out what works best.
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PinkyMcCoversong Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Professional Writer
Read more. Explore the way the authors you read use POV as a tool.
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AkatsukiEmi Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Student Artist
Thanks~! I actually read about a 200~300 page novel everyday. XD Different ones of course.
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ILoveThePanda Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
With third-person you can describe feelings and thoughts, if you are doing a subjective type of third-person. Only with objective third-person can you not describe thoughts or feeling. Personally I'd stick with subjective third-person thoughout the novel.

If not just do first-person throughout the novel.
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AkatsukiEmi Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Student Artist
thanks~!
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neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Or...third person limited.
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