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Plot: Do you think it's good to plan or is it better to let the story write itself?

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heather-may Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Just asking whether you find it easier to plan out your stories before you write them or if you find it easier to just start writing and see what happens?
When I get an idea, I usually just start writing and see what happens and I find it really hard to plan first, but what do you do?
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minustwoseventhree Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012
Plan it, but you don't need to rigidly stick to the plan. Unless of course you're going for a shorter story, or have a word limit, in which case it's better to stick to the plan to avoid going over said limit.
I plan the characters, major plot points in the story, stages, the beginning and end points, then I write it from there.
If you rigidly stick to the plan, it makes the entire thing feel forced and it takes some of the enjoyment out of both reading and writing. But if you don't plan it at all, you can forget major plot points and go on for an insanely long amount of time on things you don't really need to.

So, plan it, but give yourself and the story room to add or change things, and allow it to grow.
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Lupina24 Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
P.P.P.P.P.P.
Prior Planning Prevents Piss-Poor Performance. Very true. Planning reduces creating doing the same task two or three times over.
You don't normally get in a vehicle with no knowledge of a destination or direction, doing so wastes time, energy and resources.

I loosely plan stories my stories, I outline certain events, connections or plot/character developments that I feel need to happen within chapters. I also research the hell out of anything that may/does pop up in. Planning and research are among my best friends when writing.

I have done free(unplanned) writing before. My writing goes nomadic without plot, direction or purpose; while it has the passion and feeling for the piece, it often lacks the clarity, direction and I often need to go back and rewrite it at least twice rather than rather than just one major rehashing and editing phase.
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ParadigmFallen Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012  Professional Artist
Let the story write itself. Have an end goal or small set in mind, but it's good to allow for fluidity.

Unless you're like me, and keep the entire plot (which could potentially span several stories connected to one another) straight in your head.
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Kimono-chimera Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I've only written one short piece (it's a cross-over fan-fiction, and I'm sure I'll get flamed for that; but I wanted to figure out how to write characters that I already knew before trying to make up my own). I tried to plan out main points, like the entire first two chapters and the ending, but the rest ended up taking on a mind of its own, and I'm oddly proud of that.
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Microno95 Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Ooh. Difficult question. I'd say describe your story to someone before writing it and then write down whatever you told that person. Usually their questions (choose someone who will question you!) will help you figure out the fine details and telling them will let the story unfold on its own but you'll have that plan right before you write. Best thing to do is to figure out the key points in the story. A bit like the fixed points in Time and Space we constantly hear about in Doctor Who, the unchangeable things that must always happen, you should plan but the rest you should just let it flow however you please. It depends on the person but I find this method helps me the most.
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RiseofGreenBean Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012
I like to go in with a plot in mind, but sometimes, my best writing comes spontaneously :XD:
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AvianEx Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I only plan the main parts. Other than that, I just write until I think it's done.
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SaraAlaska Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I usually just have a geniral plan you know? Like lets say you want a war and all, how they get there and how things actually happen usually end up happing as I write because just in geniral I'm not a big planner and if I do I'm either disapointed because I couldn't get it exact or I lost interest already because the planning took to long or it took to long for me to get to the point where I wanted to write.
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Vanhir Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I write myself a vague plan and then write around it. The plan tends to change as I get new ideas and re-do things though.
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VampireNyan Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
for me it's like

1. just write something. see how it envolves...

2. then make a "frame" for the story. kinda loosely planning it.

3. fill up the "frame" with my story...


:)
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EnuoCale Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
No, I definitely need an overall plan. Some parts evolve as they go on, however.
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AlysaTaladay Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I would say both, but I have been working on my project for a very long time. If you are starting something new, I'd say you should have a rough sense of purpose and go for it. It really depends on what sort of preconceptions you have, going into a project.
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Luna-is-only-so-many Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I tend to start off with a plot but after a while the story sort of writes itself out and things may change along the way, but the beginning and end are the guides.
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The-Lost-Hope Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Student General Artist
I tried just writting and seeing what happens and I don't get past the first couple chapters. So I'm trying planning with first writting. It seems to work for me. :)
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tetrarools Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
personaly i think that a story realy develops depending on the artist. some artists make beautiful works without planing at all and others will plan the the very bone of things. i think you should try writing two short story's one with planing and the other without it. this should help you figure out what you like to do with you writing.
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heather-may Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah I think I'll try doing that, it seems to be the best thing to do (:
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Daghrgenzeen Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
An outlining plan is what I need (proper ending, proper beginning, main events, some smaller events), but usually the rest comes up as I write.
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MissLunaRose Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012   General Artist
I think it's a good idea to plan it out, simply because (from personal experience) stories that are completely unplanned often end up with a lot of errors and plot holes. They can be ironed out later, but it's pretty hard to get rid of them all—at least, for me it is.

Of course, stories rarely develop completely according to plan, so it's fun to leave your projected path and see where your imagination takes you!

...So I suppose I favor working out a plan that is detailed enough to offer direction, but loose enough to give the story room to grow. :aww:
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heather-may Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I wish this was a post on facebook so I could 'like' it ahaha. (:
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thehistoryfreak13 Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Student General Artist
Well it really depends on the context of the story like if all of a sudden I was struck by this idea while I was on the bus I would be thinking about the plot in my head, manuvering what you like best and stuff and rush home to write. But if you were just on your laptop then yes writing without thinking is easier. It really just depends on the story or the type of writing you are doing. I know when I write my blog entries I become totally engrossd in the process and I dont plan the whole thing out, I just write and it is an amazing experience but I let all that is in my brain roam free and explore the minds of my readers, which is an amazing feeling when Im done. Wow just writing this gives me that amazing feeling!! I writing it is so amazing and great!!!
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heather-may Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Hahahah you can tell you really love writing :D That was really good to read, thank you ^^
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thehistoryfreak13 Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Student General Artist
:D thank you
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raspil Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012   Writer
writing without thinking

what is this sorcery
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thehistoryfreak13 Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Student General Artist
Hahaha yess but it is sorcery of the mind
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:iconraspil:
raspil Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012   Writer
i hope it works out for you, writing without thinking. that is just something i must be too stupid to comprehend.
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thehistoryfreak13 Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Student General Artist
I think I worded it wrong it isnt writing without thinking it is writiing directly what your thinking without stopping, like when your writing a diary or something
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raspil Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012   Writer
writing in your diary is one thing. writing for other people to read is another.
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thehistoryfreak13 Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012  Student General Artist
Shrug I kind of see it in the same degree in some aspects. When writing something you are sharing what you feel, what you disagree with, what you agree with, your passions, your enemies, your interests, your past, your thoughts, your opinions and so much more. It doesn't have to be directly like a diary, it can be a story, it can be a poem, it can be anything, but it will always express a part of you
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witwitch Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Student Writer
Doing what is easier is not the same thing as doing what will make a better story.
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thehistoryfreak13 Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Student General Artist
Ur absolutely right but that is how I am really, I'm not saying people should do what I do, but it is what I have experienced. Its true for many people my methods aren't exactly the best for writing a better story, but I am a poet so I am more of a short and concise kind of person
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DayanDeVarlo Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012
In my opinion to write a story that functions you need at least some degree of planning forward, or else you plot lines are gonna get tangled and the whole thing will read inconsistent. I always plan out the general structure of the story, and then fill the parts in, a lot more freely at that.
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EvilDoctorHobbit Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I personally find it easier to plan it out, and then deviate the shit from it. :dummy:

I think everyone's different. :shrug:
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Daghrgenzeen Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That's what usually happens to me when I plan too carefully (scene by scene, for example) - deviating the shit from it. :dummy:
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EvilDoctorHobbit Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
hahaa exactly :la:
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Daghrgenzeen Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:D
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neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
DEVIANT :eyes:
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EvilDoctorHobbit Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
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Shurely Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
A bit of both, really. I like to get a base plot, write extracts of said plot, and gradually piece together the extracts to make the story. I find it makes the task less boring, as extracts are short and sweet and usually what I'm interested in at the time.

But ideally, start with the plot, and re-read it as many times as you can bear, get someone else to proof-read it, and then read it again. Good stuff.
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KittyTheNekoAlien Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
The way I do is have a general idea of where the story is going to go, then add detail to it as you work through it. I have been considering writing other parts ahead of time when I have ideas for them (like say you are stuck on how to progress through the current part, but you have a lot of ideas for a future bit), but I'm not sure if that'll mess with continuity later on. At worst, rewriting the future bit once it becomes "current" should fix it.
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Cody-H Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Student Photographer
I do a bit of both. I think about how I want to start it before I write, and sometimes I just write as I go a long. Though, everyone has a different writing style. Music usually helps a lot.
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heather-may Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Sometimes music gives me inspiration on what to write, but other times I have to turn everything off and work in silence, otherwise i get distracted and forget where I'm going with my story D:
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carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
To stop writing is to lose.
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Ms-JuneSummers Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Student Writer
My story writes itself, although I don't think it's a good idea. I'm currently letting things run their course and hopefully I can work in a plot afterwards.
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heather-may Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That's interesting. So you just write and then fix the plot in afterwards? That's different response to what I've had so far.
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Ms-JuneSummers Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Student Writer
So you just write and then fix the plot in afterwards?

I only started writing last year so I'm still working out a method that works best for me. But for the time being I'm happy enough just letting the inspiration flow even if I have to shred things later, LOL! ;)
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heather-may Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Ahhhh okay! I've only just started writing myself, but that's because I have to for uni, so i kinda need to start improving quickly aha.
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raspil Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012   Writer
how does the story write itself. tell me. please tell me how you write a story and add a plot "afterwards" as if the plot is something to casually gloss over.. i would love to know. share with us your methods for success. now.
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Ms-JuneSummers Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Student Writer
how does the story write itself. tell me.

I open my doc and start writing without not knowing what's going to happen in the scene or where it will lead the story. But if I don't like where it's going, I have no reservations about deleting it and starting over again. I keep a separate file for scenes I'd like to keep and perhaps use later on.

please tell me how you write a story and add a plot "afterwards" as if the plot is something to casually gloss over..

Wow, you didn't even finish reading the sentence. I'll repeat it for you.

"My story writes itself, although I don't think it's a good idea."

Besides, since my story hasn't ended yet, I don't know how I will add the plot afterwards. I expect there will be some rewriting, editing, and shuffling of scenes involved.

share with us your methods for success. now.

I don't have a method of success. I'm still learning, that's why I call myself a Student Writer, as you could have seen above the post. Not sure where all the hostility comes from though. You might want to take a deep breath and relax a bit.
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raspil Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012   Writer
My story writes itself, although I don't think it's a good idea

then who is the nimrod for continuing this path? do you lick light sockets, too?
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raspil Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012   Writer
Not sure where all the hostility comes from though. You might want to take a deep breath and relax a bit.

because i'm sick of noobs who think they're cute by saying stupid shit. sue me.
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