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IrThumper Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012   General Artist
Ok, I don't know why it's happening but this is the second time I've tried using the forums and my posts... don't post... or disappear ??? :(

Trying this again...


I'm wanting to know if anyone out here has any experience writing or reading YA in the fantasy-romance subgenre? I'm a student writer working on a project and am interested in finding and discussing my chosen genre/subject with other like minded peeps.

Thanks!
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neurotype Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:lock: the content is overall a duplicate of [link] - if you'd like to start a separate discussion about writing romance, please make sure it's not already covered by an existing thread in this forum. FAQ #801: Are there any rules for the Forums?
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vglory Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012
This is the literature forum, you can safely assume that we read book. And that some of us, myself included, read YA.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Vampires mating with humans and having babies is popular.
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prosaix Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012
YA?
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SomeNavySEALs Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
You visit the lit forum?
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prosaix Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012
Of course, this is one of the two places where I get to see bookworms. :la: The other place is in the picture below.
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SomeNavySEALs Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That picture didn't get me last time I saw you post it either :P
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carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Young Adult.
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IrThumper Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012   General Artist
Hi! :aww: One of the things I'd like to know is the popularity of YA romance today? I'm taking a romance writer's course but my specialty is really sentient animal fantasy (like Lion King, Watership Down, etc). I would love to stick with the fantasy aspect, but I don't know if my writer's voice will go over well in mainsteam adult romance vs YA in the fantasy subgenre :hmm:
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DamonWakes Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Student Writer
I've never been sure what people actually expect to go into a young adult book in the first place. Teenagers shouldn't have trouble with "difficult" language, and there doesn't seem to be anything to unite YA books in terms of genre, since they can still fall easily into any of the usual categories. If you haven't already, you might find it helpful to look into what makes books YA books rather than just plain books.

Also, you might be interested in looking outside fantasy, as neither of the things you've mentioned by name are especially fantastical. The Lion King has some definite fantasy elements, but Watership Down doesn't seem to dwell on anything particularly fantastical (though again, there is a splash of it in there). It's not a great fit, but Watership Down has got some definite similarities to "wild animal stories" such as those in [link] . The preview for that book is well worth reading as the first bit covers some of the differences between "realistic" animal stories and the more fantastical kind. Based on your conversation with ~Papillon-pourpre, I think you might find it quite helpful. If you want to check out any of the stories it mentions, there's a very good chance they're available online for free as most are very old.
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IrThumper Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012   General Artist
Watership Down is categorized as a fantasy; the real difference I was using with it and TLK, as compared to stories of regular animals (i.e. White Fang, Gentle Ben, etc), is that they are stories about animals that speak and are free thinking... like the wolves in =RUNNINGWOLF-MIRARI's comics.

I'm mostly wondering about the popularity of YA Romance (Like HQ Teen), as I am considering going with that subgenre of romance writing as compared to mainsteam adult romance.

Guess I didn't word my post clearly enough... :O_o:

"I'm wanting to know if anyone out here has any experience writing or reading

>>>YA in the fantasy-romance subgenre?<<<

I'm a student writer working on a project and am interested in finding and discussing my chosen genre/subject with other like minded peeps."

Thanks for the link, I'll check that out.
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Papillon-pourpre Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012
Well that entirely depends; romance never really goes out of style however a fair amount of it (especially in YA sadly) is, for want of a better word, drivel.Animal personification has been used to great effect by a number of writers (although bear in mind you do tread a very fine line) and can prove a rather excellent literary device. In short it can probably work(if done well) in the main stream and will defiantly work in a number of subcultures (furrys etc) (:
PS. hate to be pedantic but all animals are sentient- it simply means capable of experience :P
PPS. don't immediately dismiss the subcultures, they're invaluable for bouncing ideas of and tend to be more accepting.
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Papillon-pourpre Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012
sorry- I've just noticed that the emoticon looked vaguely insulting- my apologies (:
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prosaix Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012
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IrThumper Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012   General Artist
Lol, that's ok, I was using that one a lot too until I found this one =P ;)

Re "sentient", hmm, true... it's just hard to figure out what expressions to use when dealing with talking/free thinking animals, due to extreme dislike of anthromorphism by many people :O_o: My animal chars live and act like real animals, they are not furries, anthros, etc. I've been considering shifters though...hmm.

Speaking of shifters, where does the line between "paranormal" romance and "fantasy" romance fall?
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Papillon-pourpre Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012
Interesting;why the reluctance to be associated with furrys? not that i'm advocating the stupid desire of certain people to place everyone into boxes but what you intended to do would seem to appeal to quite a few within the fandom. Oh and paranormal tends to deal more with the occult (not strictly what the word means but what its come to mean) whereas fantasy is far more general.
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IrThumper Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012   General Artist
Reluctance to be associated with furries? I didn't say I was... the story I am already writing wouldn't fit that subculture because my characters aren't furries you see, so anyone publishing antro lit would reject it on that basis. I think my story fits more in fantasy than paranormal... it's not exactly werewolf (or were anything) related, more... magic based... I suppose.
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Papillon-pourpre Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012
To a degree, what do you want to discuss?
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IrThumper Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012   General Artist
Gah, my reply should have gone down here... sorry about that!
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IrThumper Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012   General Artist
Hi! :aww: One of the things I'd like to know is the popularity of YA romance today? I'm taking a romance writer's course but my specialty is really sentient animal fantasy (like Lion King, Watership Down, etc). I would love to stick with the fantasy aspect, but I don't know if my writer's voice will go over well in mainsteam adult romance vs YA in the fantasy subgenre :hmm:
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