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Do you think you can be an expert in love by simply reading...

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Cynicrylle Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I watched this awesome anime called "the world god only knows" or simply TWGOK.
It feautures a dating sims geek who has no experience in real-life romance. Desite that, he uses all of his knowledge in gal games to make girls fall in love with him.

So I was thinking, If someone would read/watch lots of romance, would their genre-saviness and own confidence be enough to win someone's heart?

Of course, I'm not implying that all romance readers are in love with someone. I'm just asking your opinion on the boundaries of love genre-saviness.

*I was going to ask the same for humor but I'm a living example of why it is false.
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:iconshininginthedarkness:
Probably about as much as I know about using a gun from Resident Evil games.
(Press R1 to reload!)
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Hodhandr Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Heard about Don Quixote? [link] Basically he's read too much stories, and his view of the world is... seriously flawed. I think you could probably learn something, but to be an expert one needs to practice, something which you can't do by just reading. At least unless you're seriously altered/high.

As with all genre-savviness, outside your genre you're still a no-one, and whatever you read is likely not "examples from real life" as a genre.
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mystichuntress Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
No, it wouldn't work.
I have a friend (he's a guy) who thinks that reading girls' books will help him understand girls better (he doesn't discriminate which books he reads, he reads EVERYTHING). The argument I used for him is the same I will use here, with you:

What happens in stories are just that: stories. They're not real. These sort of things don't happen in real life. The author's purpose is to make money and, in relation to romances, to make readers feel good about what they have read. Things don't always turn out so happily.
If you read too many romance books, you'll forget what is real and what isn't in the world of dating, and you'll end up worse than before. By reading so many of those books, you'll get sucked into their fake world and when you finally see the reality, it'll be worse for you than it would have otherwise been.
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LightMyPassage Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I think by reading a lot of romance, you can at least make a difference of what's real, and what's not. Because it's fiction, you can fairly say, it's not ever going to happen to a regular girl or guy (nevertheless, that's exactly what happens in the books).
There is some wisdom in flimsy romance books though, which you can use in everyday life. How the people on those books, who are said to read that exact same kind of books, can still be like "oh, I had no idea that's what will/can happen", is a mystery though. Because I'm 21, and the girls in those books are about 30, and must have read even more books than I have, and still, they don't get it. But it's a book, right? =P
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Proffesor-Rose Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
i dont think so i wouldve hooked up along time ago
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EnuoCale Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
You CAN do anything with knowledge rather than experience. I wouldn't count on it working in practice, though.
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TEANO Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
No. Because a lot of love stories are plain bullshit.

Pardon my French, but that's just the way it is.
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ActingDude17 Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Student Writer
Can someone take over the world just by reading political books? No, but that knowledge will allow them to get some real life experience, which is key to getting there.
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MeineSehnsucht Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012   Writer
Can you drive a car if you've only taken lessons in traffic regulations?
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YunongLu Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012
I don't beleive so. In books the author picks how the person responds. In life, it is a lot more complicated and like a game of chess. Ha-ha.
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Cynicrylle Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
To everyone: Sorry if I have offended you in some way but I'm just asking your opinion and appreciate that.
For me, I have this notion that romance writers usually writes about love they want. So if they like the mysterious type then their guys are going share traits with the stereotype. Don't worry, I don't stereotype real people. I only use the knowledge in fiction stories and no further. (I'm usually happy-go-lucky with relationships anyway) :D thanks for sharing your opinions, peace!
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TheCorpseHasPetals Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Student General Artist
That depends on the subject. For example knowing how someone's brain worked to a point you could manipulate them with several small variables into liking or acting in a certain way (basically the way you would move away from pressure without knowing the pressure was there and making you move), is very possible to be done without experience. You can call it shallow romancing or simple psychology (what TWOGK kind of centers around with the whole dating sim...).

But you can't know how to do things that require your body to do something. Like riding a horse or like Neo waking up saying he knew Kung Fu, with only the knowledge obtained from books. You would have to practice and train your body to do what your brain wants it to.

It is almost one of those unfair questions because there is more to consider then just what is being asked. I believe it also depends a lot on the specific individual in question.
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Cynicrylle Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
True that. Everyone has different minds. I guess that's why I can't make good humor like others ^^
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CrazyAce01 Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
No, you can't be an expert in love by simply reading.

There's nothing in a novel that can replace the real-life horrifying awkwardness of being stuck in some situation with an Ex after a bad breakup. Some things you can only experience for yourself.
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Cynicrylle Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Awkwardness I can feel just by thinking of romance, real or not. Thanks for sharing your opinion :)
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Rovanna Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012   Digital Artist
When I was a kid, I was madly into 'horse books' and I had this fantasy where I'd find a riderless horse and from my knowledge gained from The Saddle Club, be able to ride him and find and rescue the rider. :giggle: But I don't think it would work like that. Same with relationships.

Somebody could learn 'tricks' like what the person likes from their taste in romance novels. E.g. If a girl is really into teeny paranormal books, the guy could read them and then figure out that he should let her catch him staring at her across the classroom, bump into her randomly, say mysterious things, then dissapear. And then tell her how bewtiching she is... and how he just cannot... stay... away... :lol: Soz, getting off topic, but I think I've got a funny idea for a story now.
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Cynicrylle Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
lol. I don't read cliche teen romance, but that is some way to please a hopeless romantic teen.
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raspil Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012   Writer
you have to know yourself and love yourself before you can love someone else. get out of the house, get away from the internet and meet actual people.

I'm a living example of why it is false.
then isn't this the answer to your own question? :-?
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Cynicrylle Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
No, that's to humor. I write romance sometimes but I'm not sure when I wanted to. (is it my small love life in life or love stories?)
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:iconraspil:
raspil Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012   Writer
i don't know why you do what you do
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:iconcynicrylle:
Cynicrylle Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I don't know either. But I don't need to know anymore. :)
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LadyAnder Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Oh dear lord, NO!!! Media is not even a mediocre example of how love really works. What is expressed often on TV only covers a very small spectrum of what love it.
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
I suppose you could, if you were really analyzing what people liked and looking at it objectively, figure out how to apply those lessons IRL. I've read a lot of material from Pick-Up Artist (PUA) blogs and online communities, and some of them will actually look at the patterns in romantic literature women tend to like and draw some insights from that. But that community is also working within a pscyhological/self-help framework and probably all the "experts" would say practical application is necessary to get good at picking up women IRL.

In short: it may give you some insight into what turns people on and who they desire, but along it wouldn't make you an expert. For that you'd need repeated practical application. Just observing a behavior won't get you there.
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Only for those few relationships that happen to conform to the Romance formula.
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Carmalain7 Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
I'll answer your question with a slightly more literary question to further tie it into this forum:
Do you think you could write amazing poetry without living?

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Dangit, i forgot people actually enjoy and respect what Emily Dickinson passes off as writing.
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:iconsaintartaud:
saintartaud Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
But Emily Dickinson is awesome. :(
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:iconcarmalain7:
Carmalain7 Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012
To each their own.
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neurotype Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:lmao:
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AircatSkylion Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That's an interesting one. I admittedly have written things about subjects that I only know about from research. I've written stories set in cities I've never been to but have read a lot about. I wouldn't apply knowledge from books, especially in romance, to real life, but I do use knowledge gained from books for writing.
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pawi666 Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
I don't think so
events in the reality aren't controllable like in the novels, plus characteristics can't actually be classified like in "the world god only knows" :/

(and I don't like to be classified by anyone XD)
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:iconneurotype:
neurotype Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
You can't learn body language from books.
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:iconsaintartaud:
saintartaud Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
But movies and TV might offer some clues.
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:iconneurotype:
neurotype Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Only if the actors know their shit.
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
Haha true. I have to admit, I didn't write much involving romance before I had one myself. I just didn't think I had the experience to tackle the subject. Instead it was lots of yearning and best guesses. :lol:
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:iconneurotype:
neurotype Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Adorable :p I just have no interest in writing it.
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
People in your stories never fall in love, are in romantic relationships, are attracted to each other, or just "get it on"?
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:iconneurotype:
neurotype Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
There's usually no romantic component whatsoever. :B I never remember to put one in.
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:iconsaintartaud:
saintartaud Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
Ugh, should read "A story doesn't have to be a romance and can still include that stuff."
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
Not saying that there has to be, just that it's not uncommon. A story doesn't have a romance and still include that stuff. People IRL have desires and sex/love lives, I don't see why literature shouldn't reflect that. Heck, even Moby-Dick's got some subtle homoeroticism. :lol:
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SahidenEthare Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012   Writer
So someone can't fall in love with you unless you learn body language?
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neurotype Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
You can misinterpret someone's intentions if you don't know how to read body language.
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SahidenEthare Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012   Writer
I can attest to that, being that I'm incapable of reading body language.
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:iconneurotype:
neurotype Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
D: It's a problem nowadays.
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SahidenEthare Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012   Writer
I've had this problem before, and I will have it all my life really. :o
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neurotype Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Practice?
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SahidenEthare Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012   Writer
Doesn't change the fact I'm handicapped, I'm afraid.
I've mapped an analytical chart in my mind as to what most situations mean in terms of appropriate responses and questions, but it's not the same as talking to a normal person by a long shot.
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