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Is a wood mannequin helpful?

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Ongakuman Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I wanted something to help me with poses and I thought a wood mannequin would be awesome. There is a hobby lobby nearby that I get my art stuff from. Do you use one? How much do they cost in USD? Is it worth it?
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UltimateRogue Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I have one but I never used it. The amount of poses you could make with it is very limited. The joints could only stay on it's own up until it reaches a 90 degree angle. It's always better to have a friend pose for you.
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CrimsonMagpie Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
The main thing an artists mannequin will help you do is draw poses that look like an artists mannequin. If you rely on it for reference then your figures will literally look wooden. They're much more useful for artists who already understand anatomy and use the mannequin as a quick base reference, but who understand what to change in order to make the image look natural. 

I have one, and've only ever used it as a shelf ornament. 
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Tylon Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Professional Artist
I actually won mine because I bought so many art supplies at the local art store. It is neat, but I don't feel it ever really helped me learn poses or anatomy. It worked well for simple sketch poses, but I feel I had to often use my imagination more than I had to use my eyes. I mainly used it for simplistic poses for my drawing classes where we had to sketch out stick figures doing different things. The art stores where I am sells them from $5-20 dollars.

There is a really good website I found back when I used to do figure drawing that shows you poses- I believe it is called posemaniacs. That website really helped me out, perhaps it is worth a look if you are into poses/ anatomy.
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hedwards Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013
I've never felt inclined to buy one. I've found that in most cases if I need to know what something looks like, I can just walk to a mirror and observe how I look in that position as for one or two joints it's not going to vary too much.

If you're doing things properly and drawing out a skeleton before you draw the rest of the body, you should be able to change it hundreds of times if you need to with minimal wasted effort.

Come to think of it, I don't think the school I took drawing and painting at used them at all for classes. I guess the principles of drawing are the principles if you can draw flowers then you should be able to figure out how to draw people given enough observation.

One thought though is to watch video of the joints moving. I'm sure there are plenty of videos online and that's going to be more useful, IMHO, as it shows the range of motion that the joint goes through and often times the reaction in the rest of the body.
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Fuee Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013   General Artist
Not really. I bought one for pose references years ago (I don't even know why you'd use one to actually study anatomy), but it seems to have... springs in its joints or something, so if I wanted any of its arms or legs to be in certain positions, I had to bust out the scotch tape to hold them there. There's also the escher girls example kafine linked to, but I think if you have a decent grasp of the human body's range of motion, that's not too much of a problem.

If you're looking for something to pose around for references, the best thing I've tried is a 3D modeling program. Which still isn't the best for anatomy, of course, but for just poses it's a pretty alright idea. Still requires the grasp on range of motion, though.
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jerseycajun Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
One of the least useful things I've ever bought to further my skills. It works better as a decoration for your studio desk than anything else.

Like someone else said, at best perhaps it could be put to use in still life, but not for aiding in drawing anatomy.
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Matsuemon Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013
I personally don't think they're helpful at all. They don't look anything like a real person so I don't see any benefit in using them. Just my two cents =)
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Tetchist Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
no but they look neat don't they :la:
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AelissNovak Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
EXACTLY. :O
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Tetchist Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
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kafine Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013   General Artist
No. They don't bend realistically, so I don't think it would help you with poses. They also don't change shape and interact with themselves the way the human body does. Use of them leads to some bonkers misconceptions, like this; [link]

I like them but only as decorative items. It's fun to make them do YMCA in the store.

There's no substitue for looking at real people.
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Mercury-Crowe Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013  Professional Artisan Crafter
Eh, maybe, but not as much as you might think. The arms and legs are OK as far as articulation goes but the body doesn't move anywhere near as much as a real person, so they can only help you so much.

I always liked the way they looked but I don't think I really ever used mine much for what it was intended for. I think it mostly became the subject of stop-motion films.

I don't know how much they cost anymore. Used to be maybe $30 for the large one.
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TakemaKei Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i had one and turn out it was useless. so now it just stood there for show.

the Qumarion, on the other hand....
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Glori305 Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013
Sometimes.

A wood maniquine will not hold some poses that a real person can hold, and can be put into unrealistic poses, so you need a good grip on movement.

While they can help as a bit of a refrence, the best use I have seen of them is when someone is drawing wooden maniquins (and I have seen some really cute drawings of that nature) they are only the roughest anaolgy of a person, you already need to have a good grasp on anatomy and proportion for one to be useful as a refrence for an idea in your head.

Mine is burried underneath other things on my desk, and I use photo's for refrence when I sketch people.
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DelphineApollo Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I never found a use of them. I couldn't draw them or do anything with them
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phoenixleo Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013
A personal model to do whatever poses would be nice. :C
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narutokunobessed Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Student General Artist
If you think of a wooden manquin as a still life, sure, you can think of them as a still life. For certain poses, and seen simple shapes, its a maybe. But your actually better off studying the real human body or getting more references then the dolls.
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KyteGlory Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013
No, they're not helpful.
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Geistjager Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist
I bought one ages ago. Like Rovanna said, they just can't be posed the way that real bodies would. I ended up giving mine to a charity shop.

The best alternative is to go net-trawling, and build up a database of poses. Also, if you have obliging friends, ask them to do various poses for you, and take pics. With a halfway decent camera, you can even get decent pics of "action" poses.

If all else fails, there are some good stock pose artists on DA, try having a search around!
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Rovanna Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013   Digital Artist
I have one, and it's useless. :B The joints aren't flexible enough for any kind of realistic posing and it's super tall for a person. Maybe if you had a better quality one, you could pose it better and then it would be worth it? I find photos or posing in front of the mirror more helpful because the mannequin doesn't have muscles or clothes.

I'm not a Yank, so I can't help you on price, but they aren't very expensive. Just check the price at your art shop?
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2lazy2talk Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I've always wanted to know this aswell...and no, they're not expensive.
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