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GOOD PENCIL CRAYONS/CRAYON BRAND?

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Mayvi Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I would like to get some nice coloured pencil crayons for personal work and school.
I'm going to college next year and would like some decent ones that arent too pricey, and are good quality.
I need ones that
-Are strong, resist breakage
-Good blendability
-Good colour/pigments
-Nice variety of colours
-Decently priced

I have tried:
-Crayola. Not bad colour, but they break extremely often and get short very quickly
-Prismacolour Scholar. I found the colours very ugly, they didn't blend well either.

I do not want to try :
Prismacolor pencils. I hear they are nice, but they are too expensive for me.

Has anyone tried Faber Castell coloured pencils? I hear alot of artists use them. Are they any good? What's so great about them anyways? I might try them.

I've tried Derwent water coloured pencils. I think they are okay (dont have anything to relate it to :/), do they come in regular pencil crayons? Are they good?

Thanks so much!
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Xephalia Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I can't help at all sorry but I'm interested in the same thing you asked - need some cheap colored pencils.
What are you willing to dish out though? Around what price range.
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Mayvi Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
mmmm $30?
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sprocket07 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I have these Steadler pencils that my friend gave me. They're erasable, and I really like them XD They bled easily and they hardly ever break. I've used mine soooo many times and their still about as tall as when I got them. The colours are pretty nice too, even though I only have a set of 12, but you can blend them to make different shades. It says Noris Club on the package, so I don't know if that's what their called or what =P It's made by Steadler though.
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Mayvi Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I know the ones :)
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ORANGEFUSS Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Student General Artist
I've been using Faber Castell for quite sometime nao (4 years?). /lol

Either the Classic Colours or the Watercolour ones are great!
And hey its not that expensive when you compare it with other brands.

Oooh, Prismacolour ain't good? ; v ;
/wasabouttobuyaboxof24

Oh well good luck on your Brand hunt! c:
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Mayvi Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Thanks :)
I don't like the Prismacolour Scholar pencils. I can't say anything about the other Prisma ones :P
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Vineris Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Unfortunately student-grade pencils tend to be crap and artist-grade pencils tend to be expensive. If you don't want to buy Prismacolor, which are $30 (on sale) for a set of 36 at Dick Blick I can't see you shelling out $55 for 36 Faber-Castell Polychromos or Derwent Studio pencils. So whatever people are going to recommend, it's either going to be much like what you're already using, or out of your price range.

If you're serious about working in pencil crayon, my recommendation is to obsessively look for deals on 48- or 72-colour sets of the really good artist-grade brands. You may be able to find a nice set for super-cheap someday and they'll last you for a long time.
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Schnee-Fee Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Student Filmographer
I have both Prismacolors and FaberCastell in their full set (Polychromos in the case of FaberCastell)

I personally like FaberCastell most because there's more ways to do things with them, are easier to erase if you make a mistake and you can blend with your finger on the fly, since they're oil based.
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Mayvi Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Thanks :D
would you be able to elaborate on the "there's more ways to do things with them" please :)?
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Schnee-Fee Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Student Filmographer
You know the usual Put the pencil on paper and that's it method? Try using graphite, water color, and hell, even alcohol with them. Color combos like that make drastic changes to the image. It's really cool.
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Technicolour-firefly Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I use quite a mix of pencils, mostly Prismacolor/Karismacolours, Caran D'Ache and Faber Castell's Polychromos so I can only comment on these. I think out of the lot, my Caran D'Ache ones are my favourites.

I find the prismacolours a little too soft and waxy and whilst I really love my Polychromos ones (I only have a few) I sometimes find the leads a little too hard and so they don't blend as easily as (say) the prismas. But the Caran D'Ache ones seem to be totally in between. They're not the cheapest of pencils (but as far as I know they're less expensive than prismacolor) but I have a set of 18 and that is absolutely plenty of colours to use for any picture.

They are my favourites because the leads are soft and blendable enough to be easy to work with but not so waxy that it shows up on the paper, and the leads also seem to be strong enough to resist breakage (I've dropped my pencil roll with them in from short heights and they're not suffered any ill effects as far as I can tell, which my prismas have). And the colours in the 18 set seem to be a good enough range that I don't really feel the need to purchase a bigger set.

So hopefully this might help you a bit ^^;
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Mayvi Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
it did, thanks :)
(is that haku in your avatar :3?)
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Technicolour-firefly Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh I'm glad :)

Ah I love spirited away! But no, it's my (as of yet unnamed dragon character) - [link] (it was done by *happypuppy000) :)
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Mayvi Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Ohhh! I see.
Sorry about the mix-up .__.'
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Technicolour-firefly Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah no worries at all! Like I said, I love spirited away and my inspiration I think came from that film as well as a few other places :)

On a side note, I had a quick look on Amazon and these are the exact ones I have:
[link]

As an example of what I did with those 12: [link] It says in the description that i used prismas but in reality I did the base rust/orange colour with 2 prismas then the fur detail, eyes and background with my Caran D'Aches as the prismas were a little too soft for me to do hard detail strokes with :)
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Mayvi Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I love spirited away as well :) One of my faves.
Thanks for showing me an example!
I really appreciate it!
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LyokoStar Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Student General Artist
i use the CrazArt ones... you can buy them in a 64 pack!!!!!! yeah SOME of them break easy... but still that's alot of colors and it isn't that expensive.
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Mayvi Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
thanks :)
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LyokoStar Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Student General Artist
you're welcome! ^^
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