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What's the deal with My pony, chibi art and Anime???

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SPARATIK Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012   Digital Artist
I'm just wondering... what's up with that? What is it exactly that makes it cool? I can't put my finger around it. For me, growing up, we had ninja turtle... power rangers, ren and stimpy. Then later Pokemon came along... now my pony. I just don't get what's cool about it. Someone let me know what i'm missing out on please.
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DamaiMikaz Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I guess it has to do with childhood memory's.
I used to watch a lot of anime as a child, made manga style drawings with friends, and traded pokemon with almost the whole neighborhood.
Although that time is long gone already, I still have warm memory's from that time, and I can't come to hate that anime style -- even though I realize a lot of it is badly drawn.

As for the pony's... I never understood quite understood that. I hated them already as a child XD
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AliceXofXdarkland Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
i don't get it either, but people are strange and do strange things. but at least these fandom trends aren't hurting anyone even if i do kind of wish it would go away. :P
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zakaz92 Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2012   General Artist
Ya know Rick I think i understand what your asking or rather understand why your asking it because I have the same feelings about that cartoon "the Regular show" my nephews love it me I also grew up on TMNT Power rangers Ren and Stimpy I think the best way I found to answer these types of questions myself was simply that its something you relate to. Like for example I LOVE FIGHTING I mean Adore it and if i never had a passion for art trust me id be in the MMA lol or Boxing so power rangers and TMNT was badass to be because I felt i could relate to it and on the other hand I love Comedy which Ren And Stimpy did for me shit was boss lol, so i guess in little kids eyes tho i really only know girls that love MLP so i guess they love its "cuteness" or whatever idk Now anime that i love too certain ones tho like DBZ, Neon Genisis, Cowboy bebop, Fists of the North star merely due to the amount of ass kicking and the art styles are impressive to me so thats my take on it. As for Chibi art........ Meh idk I see it as baby form art like them making everyone a baby maybe i miss the concept of it but some can make cool chibi art idk great topic tho.


Ps . ITS MORPHING TIME!!! hands down most single badass quote of all time lol
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SPARATIK Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012   Digital Artist
lol i just never liked cute when i was a kid. that was usually left for the girls.
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zakaz92 Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012   General Artist
trust me Man i know what you mean lol
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SPARATIK Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2012   Digital Artist
this thread was not meant to be offensive by the way. i just have a hard time understanding the cool factor in all these new things. im not saying my little pony is stupid or anything. i just don't get it. i might of arrived at this as i was looking up some of the top art on this site. i've found some amazing artwork and amazing artists with almost no recognition. then i see, in my very honest opinion, some horrible mlp art with amazing hits. this doesn't really worry me because i know what employers hiring artists look for... but i just don't get it. lol
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Sonrie-mucho Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I used to watch shows like Johnny Bravo, Ren and Stimpy, and Spongebob becausimagery make me laugh; MLP just isn't my cup of tea, which is fine.
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Sonrie-mucho Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Typo *because they
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PemaMendez Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Americans (well, most people around the world, but mainly Americans [perhaps because of the media]) tend to ridicule stuff to make it "laugh subject" of everyone, therefore, stuff becomes trendy, loved and "cool".

examples: Justin Bieber, Gangnam Style, "One does not simply..."

ridiculing Bieber just made his fans stronger and more numerous, Gangnam Style became worldwide and most watched YT video, and I don't think Psy was aiming for that much exposure (Ive been k-pop fan for over 3 years and never heard a Psy song before Gangnam style, just saying), and "one does not simply..."? now I can't watch LOTR without laughing in that scene :D

but that's just my opinion, I could be wrong


having said that, I don't understand "my little pony"'s fame either, maybe we missed something[?], some mayor revolution that ocurred in the internet that brought "My Little Pony" to fame (maybe in 9gag, or reddit?, idk & idc)

Chibis? well, we owe that to Japanese designers and mangakas, they turned their characters into "childy, petite, chubby and cute" in order to reach a certain group of people (girls[?] kids [?]) and sell more :D.

and Anime. well, anime has been a trend since a long time ago, mostly because there were some good ones that brought people to love Japanese animation (ex: Dragon Ball Z, Pokemon etc...)
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AliceWonder32 Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012
I grew up in the 80s. My little pony was around then, as was Care Bears and other feel good shows. I think what is happening, at least with some adult artists who draw them in adult contexts, is they are using artistic freedom to express the hybridizing of their childhood innocence with natural hormone driven sexual urges, using them as an art form to express the changes from child to adult.

I personally am not a fan of that kind of Manga / Hentai. I like to leave my innocent childhood in my past. But I also like to allow others to have artistic freedom to express things the way they want to, the way they enjoy, even if it isn't my cup of tea.
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JakkRobbit Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Student General Artist
Well...a lot of people like them. You're asking what makes them cool, but that question would probably vary from person to person. I can't
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JakkRobbit Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Student General Artist
Why the fuck did my comment submit early???? I didn't even press anything!

ANYWAY, I can't tell you why all fans of MLP like it, and I don't feel like trying to speculate as to why a wide variety of people enjoy some tv show. It's cool to the people who enjoy it, and a lot of people happen to think that. If you don't like it, that's fine. It just means the fandom's not for you. But I'm sure they are lots of people out there wondering what makes Power Rangers and TMNT "cool."
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DeWolfie Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I am sure the generation before you askes the same "what's so cool about Ninja Turtles?".
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schris91 Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Student Filmographer
My issue isn't with today's kids, it's with people who are like 25 and love my little pony, it's weird as all hell and I have no idea what's up with that. I don't totally get the chibi obsession either but I understand it more than mlp... and anime? Idk man it's a form of animation that's been around for god, like 60+ years? A lot of it is just tasteless but I don't find anything wrong with the genre in of itself.
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narutokunobessed Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Student General Artist
My little Pony is a result of an internet meme, and hence bronies. It became popular because a blogger saw as an end to TV show as we know it. So result, people really trolled the blog on 4chan and as a result, people really watched it. And then from there, just results of 4chan, bronies and ponies just more cooler. Always read knowyourmeme if you wanna know what your kids are doing. Tred carefully, it can be almost like 4chan.
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For me, growing up, we had ninja turtle... power rangers, ren and stimpy. Chibi and manga art.
As for anime and chibi art, I think its just the feeling that you haven't seen much of anime, since alot of it was more on VHS then on TV. Anime has been around as long as Teenage Ninja turtles has, if not, even before teenage mutant ninja turtles (1960s or WII period or way before that). Teenage ninja Turtles has been around since the 1980s.

Alot of also attraction in anime, that since its animation, it isn't truely japanese. Its alot of disney and french stuff. Animation was not created by japanese but a longer richer history. But mostly to be safe, disney was the anime base for all things. I mean disney did alot of limited animation productions and its pretty obvious being friends with studio Ghibli.

Where anime really went boom though is OSamu tezuka. He is considered the God of all manga, because he is the one who made the anime iconic eyes and made manga popular. His inspiration was like show girls eyes in the spot light, and Disney. Astro boy is the one that was the most popular and went worldwide. This pretty much opened up japan for buisness. Alot of his titles set the foundations for many anime and anime generas.

A funny thing though, I saw a documentary of Tezuka in my animation, and he said, that anime or manga words didn't matter to him. It was all animation to him. What really surprised me was he had a cartoon in the UPA style. So I think alot of animators in japan really apprecite western, especially Disney and limited animation and if not, just animation in general. But that is another topic.

I think for most of anime, its also a nostalgic feel. I mean Evengellion was kind of before my time and I feel thats a really old anime. Or Fist of the northern star is nostalgic.

But so now why is it popular? I only answered part of it. There are many reason today. 1 In america, all these original shows on Cartoon Network are just embedded in our childhood. I mean loving pokemon is about the same as loving ren and stimpy, its the nostalga. 2, some anime is just really good. If you don't like shonen jump, you just got to dig alot deeper then what you are watching. I like Indie like anime, currently and that served me well. Kaiba is a nice one, mushishi, Time of Eve, 5cm Per second, Summer Wars, etc. 3, anime can generally appeal to wider audience and wider range of genera while most western cartoons appealed to kids and of course some of them just appeal as porno comedy. Although, it is arguable there were some adult cartoons, but not very well known or advertised, or some that just subtly seeped in to the child cartoons. Apparently Ren and Stimpy there was alot of episodes not on nick. There was also the episode of the rubber nipple salesmen, and just the though of that name is just weird and bizzare. 4. It just offers something different then rubber hose, UPA, Chuck jones, styles. Frankly I wanted something else to entertain me, and anime, stories have to be canon in some way. I just like how stories are really embedded in anime. Of course I know superheroes in our USA, have stories, but there isn't a genera really that has cannical stories that aren't superhero stories on TV. Its pretty darn small. You probably have to go to indie websites, art schools, or comics only to get your indie stuff. Anime, there is some for indies, there is something for girls, there is something for boys, etc. In japan, even buisness men are reading shonen Jump (Ive seen it and went to tokyo). There is something that all audiences can enjoy.


And back to your nostalgia, you probably didn't realize the popularity at all. I think I was just confortable that I enjoyed Sailor moon growing up, and didn't know how popular it was, just as you enjoyed ren and stimpy growing up or teenage mutant turtles. IF there something on, someone must of liked it somewhere. Its almost like if there was war that people were devoted to a guy, and as a kid you weren't even aware of the war or who that person even was. You were confortable watching those cartoons. Thats an extreme example, but proves my point.

Ad yet there is a nostalga in everyone . I miss alot of shows that came from cartoon network. I liked chalk zone. I miss teen titans (the chibi show is ok but not enough really). I miss Dexter, Powerpuff, Foster home, etc. I think its just you feeling the generation x and y stuff. There are just some that will like the same stuff as you do anyway, and some who just like differently.

And everyone else, pretty much nailed what could of been said too.
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Shredguts Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
My, my... look at the shitstorm this invites! I'm in my 30's so you can call me out of touch. I can't fault anyone for liking or loving what they're into, but I can make fun of them. They can make it easy if they want. I've never felt compelled to draw Raphael and Donatello cuddling, I'll tell ya that much.
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SPARATIK Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012   Digital Artist
my favorite comment so far... and of course, it had to come from you. lol duuuuude! just saw your fresco jesus painting (thumbnail) but it won't let me view it all the way! lmao looks epic. i have horrible internet right now but i'll be home soon.
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ZhouRules Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
most of these responses are not responses at all! lol. just people getting offended that you're asking the question. I've watched My Little Pony. I dig the animation and redesign of the characters from the crap that it used to be. But I don't get why it's exploding with fans. I wouldn't call myself a fan. Adventure Time is one of the few new cartoons I like. I don't think that these shows that are popular are "cool". I think those two terms should be separated. Ninja Turtles was cool and is cool. It's just a brilliant, marketable concept. My Little Pony blew up on the internet almost as a joke, but the popularity made it cool. Now you're cool if you put a pony as your profile pic or icon and you're cool if you draw my little ponies. Because it's popular. A fad. It's one of the most obvious fads I've ever seen. You couldn't make an epic, feature length movie for the theaters out of My Little Pony. But they did for Turtles AND the original Power Rangers. Even Pokemon. Chibi, someone above said it perfect. It's easy to draw and makes little girls happy. Anime can be broken down into many categories. Some are absolutely badass with wonderful art. Some aren't. It's not a fad, it will stick around probably forever, and I'm glad for that because there is incredible talent in it when done right. All of this I think is from a fair point of view. I'm not putting anything down. Just what I notice. Ponies are a fad, chibi is easy to draw and cute, anime can go in any direction. And Ninja Turtles, Transformers, Power Rangers, etc. never die because creativity thrived back then.
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SPARATIK Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012   Digital Artist
you are now my lawyer chris. lol
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ZhouRules Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
nice. one day when Lucasfilm sues us, we'll be prepared. lol
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hiyoi Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
For me, growing up, we had Let's & Go, Shin-chan, Kindaichi, and Slam Dunk. I grew up with anime/manga and that's why I enjoy it.
Don't really understand the pony thing, though. I mean I enjoy shows like Backyardigans and Max and Ruby, but MLP is just vomit-inducing. But I guess everyone has different taste.
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lemon1986 Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012
they're all the same as any other show that you used to watch (as well as I am) however, MLP is an exception and considered a phenomenon and was explained by a psychologist that these people are trying to live their own imagination away from the reality, which is filled with hate and compitition! what surprised me though that the psycologist said watching MLP is not insanity or anything, in fact they're sane than the rest of us! because somehow they knew watching MLP or any other kids show will act as a painkiller to them!

same thing with pokemon and other shows like sonic and adventure time, etc! it doesn't necessairly have to be MLP, but accoring to him MLP is the most popular because of the community more than anything else!
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mapper3 Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Such a clearly worded question.

Sarcasm aside, I don't really understand what you are trying to say here.
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avirextin Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
My pony?
I'mma take a shot in the dark and guess you mean My little pony, and that's because people like it. People tend to draw what interests them. I personally like the show too. I draw the pictures a lot myself. Just ignore them. ^^;

Chibi art?
I dunno, I guess because it's easy. You don't have to worry about proportions. I try to stay away from that.

Anime?
Because it's a 'genre' of art that can be stylized any way you like. It doesn't have to feature big ol' eyes or humongous breasts. It's fun to draw and you can add as much realism as you please. (That is, if you aren't just straight up trying for realism.)
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Mew-Sumomo Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Student General Artist
Ren and Stimpy IMO is on a whole other playing field of twisted, likely drug-inspired black comedy. It's definitely not suited for kids and it confused me when I was about 6ish watching it for the first time, but now that I'm older I think it's one of the best things ever.

There's a large base of people who are attracted to all things cute, pink and fluffy. Not many things like that existed back when we were kids, but the influence that stuff like Japan and the internet has today was absent 15-20 years ago as well.
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KyteGlory Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012
My Little Pony appeals to young girls who like pastel colours and ponies. It also appeals, apparently, to older viewers who have an ironic sense of humour. You could, if you wanted, interpret bronies as a feminist movement [either as form of reactionism to all this ridiculously hyper-masculine shit that's targeted towards men, or as a form of reactionism to all the ridiculously hyper-feminine shit that's targeted towards young girls.] or you could interpret bronies as a nostalgia movement hiding under the pretense of being 'ironic.'

But it's also true that My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic is a pretty good show. I mean, it's not fantastic, but it's still better than most of the crap we were watching as kids. Shit, when I was a kid, young girls had shit like Strawberry Shortcake and My Little Pony Tails, which consisted entirely of vapid, pink-and-purple characters with no distinct personalities sitting around giggling over tea parties and shopping trips.
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Black-Allison Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012
My LIttle Pony's drawing fanbase isn't exactly kids man. It's a joke and act of irony.

Also you forgot Sailor Moon, Hello Kitty and Friends, Dora the Explorer and the old My Little Pony cartoon. Yeah I like how you missed everything that was meant for a kid possessing a vagina.

I still don't like Ren and Stimpy. In my opinion Cow and Chicken was much funnier.
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Jinolu Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Student Digital Artist
It isnīt only about coolness anymore. And while cartoons as ninja turtles mostly feature the evil vs good relationship, animes have a extremly large range of topics. My pony though...well, i guess itīs cute for some girls ^^"
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visaga Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm confused as well :| Maybe it's 'cause they're the easiest to draw?
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CrimsonMagpie Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Ironically many things - like My Little Ponies, chibis, etc... - look easy to draw, but are actually hard to get right, as evidenced by the thousands of people who fail spectacularly at trying to depict them.
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visaga Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Hmm, maybe it's just me then but I find them easy XD I have never seen a fail MLP art though :/
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CrimsonMagpie Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I think as with most fanart 90% of it is pretty lousy. Fortunately it's easy to avoid most of it.
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visaga Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
When you say lousy, do you mean all the ones that aren't front page quality?
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CrimsonMagpie Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I wouldn't say not front page quality, but those that generally fall below what I'd call good quality. Those that look like the artist tried to match the original MLP style and failed, for example.
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visaga Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, yeah but they could just be doing it in their own style.
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CrimsonMagpie Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I can generally tell the difference between an intentional style and a failed attempt at mimicking an extant style. :P
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SPARATIK Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012   Digital Artist
i agree with you 100%
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Pix3M Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012   Digital Artist
If I wanted something really easy to draw, I would probably be pixelling emotes or something.
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visaga Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
emotes aren't easy, IMO they're harder than chibis.
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LadyKuki Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012  Student General Artist
No offense to anyone that does emotes, but really?

I find chibis hard to draw for some reason... mine always look derpy. :XD:

As for ponies... they're hard unless you have a reference to the show or unless you know your horse/human anatomy. :XD:
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visaga Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Why, you think emotes are easy?

LOL well to make it not look derpy, make it look creepy. Just add a bunch of blood :XD: Immediately ruins the cute factor.

Yeah, maybe it's just me who thinks ponies are easy? I think it's cuz in 6th grade, I had a horse-loving friend who taught me to draw horses :XD:
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LadyKuki Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012  Student General Artist
Yeah... for some reason... IDK. :XD:

Lol.

Meh. I wasn't really a horse drawing person, so I find them harder. :XD:
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visaga Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
haha maybe it's just me then.

D'aww I should find you a horse-loving childhood friend then ;P
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LadyKuki Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2012  Student General Artist
I already do have one... she just wasn't around during child hood. =P
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Pix3M Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012   Digital Artist
I have also written anatomical notes for drawing ponies, so ponies aren't that super easy to draw.... and to look at the very frist chibi I made literally yesterday seemed perfect.

So if emotes aren't that easy, maybe I should be pointing at the minimalist work which just got add today. Now THAT is easy to draw... mostly.

But the reason why people draw ponies is not because it's easy, but because people like ponies. If I want easy, I'll just be one of those abstract artists or something so I don't need to learn anatomy.
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visaga Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
True, when it all comes down to it, we draw what we enjoy drawing :nod: I still think that there are some people out there though that just draw chibis because they think it's easy and are afraid to get out of their zone to draw other things.
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SPARATIK Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012   Digital Artist
i meant VISAGA, i agree with "I'm confused as well :| Maybe it's 'cause they're the easiest to draw?"
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visaga Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:D
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LadyKuki Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Student General Artist
Just current fads. That's all. :XD: In the next 20 years, we'd be saying the same thing once new fads come about. :laughing:
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Pix3M Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012   Digital Artist
I kinda like how your own personal answers to why you liked some of your own favorites doesn't have that much more substance than what any MLP fan would say when asked about their own reasons.

"first, ninja turtles. they're... ninjas... and turtles."
Yep. My Little Pony. They're... ponies!

"named after great renaissance artists AND they love pizza, which at the time, was my favorite."
Ponies also have a tendency to have names which tend to be amusingly related to whatever cute picture they have on their butts, or names that suggest their personalities a bit. Plus, a fan like Andrew W.K. would relate with Pinkie Pie as they both love parties to death.

"power rangers, they were basically a transformer cartoon come to life."
And MLP was a totally different world come to life. Apparently some fans wouldn't mind going to Equestria.

"the fighting was sweet and the characters were awesome."
Same as MLP, except I find power rangers to be much cheesier. Hahaha... good times, I guess.

"ren and stimpy? what isn't there to love about a crazy, angry chihuahua and a dumb cat?"
Yep. What isn't there to love about an entire cast of personalities that are amusingly exaggerated?

IMO, I'll probably go with what other people have said. Other things you don't understand have more in common than you really think.
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