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Why every wants to charge for their art?

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MYTHICSONOFGOD Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
First I want to be clear that I am not talking about professional/semi-professional/full time artist that as professionals have every right to charge for their hard/time consuming work , nor I am saying that people don't have the right to earn money for their hard work.

But I wonder why so many amateurs (like me), like to charge for their art and are unwilling to do even the simplest of doodles or even a comment without some kind of profit.

I thought art (not pro art,that is) was to have fun and and to express your self, to show others the inner of your soul, something you love so much you would do even for free in other words a passion.

When I draw for someone else it makes me very happy even if it is an awful doodle.

I am not criticizing or anything I am just wondering why love for art and for others is taking a back sit to the love of profits.
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Cnids Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Because if I'm not being compensated for my time, I'd rather be doing something I enjoy.
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MYTHICSONOFGOD Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
thank you for sharing your opinion
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narutokunobessed Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Student General Artist
Also, art supplies cost money, so it probably helps to pay some bills for that.
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narutokunobessed Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Student General Artist
Think about the artist alley. They are not all professionals, but they do it anyway, because its fun, enjoyable, and it pays.

And actually amateur means your not paid, where as a profession is where you are paid.
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MYTHICSONOFGOD Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
thank you for sharing your opinion :). Your posts are always helpful
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Vineris Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
"I am not criticizing or anything I am just wondering why love for art and for others is taking a back sit to the love of profits."

Just because I love doing something doesn't mean I want to give it away to everybody who asks. I love knitting, too. But even though I have a passion for knitting and I use it as self-expression and all that stuff you said, it doesn't mean I want to give random people several hours of my life and $30 of my yarn.

"When I draw for someone else it makes me very happy even if it is an awful doodle."

You happen to enjoy this specific mix of altruism and ego validation. It doesn't follow that everybody else has to enjoy the same thing.
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MYTHICSONOFGOD Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It's ok I was just curious I a not seeking to change minds or judge, thank you for sharing your opinion.
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FionaCreates Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Professional General Artist
before I went pro, if someone asked me out of the blue to do something for them and had nothing I wanted in return then I would ask for compensation of payment. I'm not going to draw some strangers character because they told me they like my work.

However I think a lot of people are desperate for commissions because of a few reasons.
a) having your own ideas is hard, drawing what people tell you is fairly easy on the brain process. And can be fun.
b) the validation. I know when I was younger all my favourite artists did commissions so I used to think that if I commissioned it would mean I was a good artist.
c) the popularity. People seem to love people who do commissions. And if you price them cheap in points more people will flock to your page and go "omg 5 point commissions" (40 cents guys 40 cents, even babysitting pays more than that) erby making you seem popular.
d) a genuine desire to become a professional artist.
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MYTHICSONOFGOD Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It's ok I was just curious I am not seeking to change minds or judge, thank you for sharing your opinion I learned a lot for sure.
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FionaCreates Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Professional General Artist
Tbh I spent a long long time just drawing for myself. If I did draw for other people it was like a gift or because I wanted to.

Way back when I used to participate in non dA forums, and you kind of make a fake currency on those every time you posted and I used to do sort of commissions for the fake currency, that was always fun. I just spent the fake currency on things other people were selling.

It's a case of whatever it is, if there's a market for it you can sell. And people wanted to spend fake currency on my work so I sold it. But it wasn't all that great at the time.

For real money I think some people jump into commissioning a bit too early for the 'wrong reasons' or saying "I really need the cash and I don't want a saturday job." Well tbh if you're art's not good and you don't already have a commissioning market you're better off with the saturday job if the cash is what you're in it for. If you 'need the cash' but do points commissions (which can only be spent on the dA store) then you obviously don't really need the cash and are kind of guilting people into commissioning you...
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Glori305 Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012
Someone wants to try to make profit from their art, you already know why, you said it in your post.

You just don't seem to think it is justified.

Let me put it this way. Neighborhood teenagers babysit kids, they charge much less than a professional nanny. Should they not charge because they have no training, and are not going to be as skilled?
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MYTHICSONOFGOD Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It's ok I was just curious I a not seeking to change minds, people to "justify", or judge others, thank you for sharing your opinion.
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Engelsblau Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012
Well, I charge, because I've learned that you get used a lot when you do it for free.
Only people like family and friends can get drawings for free. (Even if it annoys me a little bit that some of my relatives don't even ask me and directly command me to draw something for them :s )
And I agree with ~thisismyboat, nothing wrong with fun sketches. I once tried them and drew people which took me not too much time and helped them to get new profile pictures on Facebook. :XD:
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MYTHICSONOFGOD Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
thank you for sharing your opinion :)
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Mercury-Crowe Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
You don't have to charge if you don't want to. Go ahead and work for free. Nobody is forcing you to charge.

But it's not a right to get free work, no matter whether the person is 'professional' or not. That's like saying the kid down the street should mow your lawn for free because he doesn't have a landscaping business.

Art you do for YOURSELF is free- unless you decide to sell it. But when it comes down to art for someone ELSE- you are doing work. You work, you get paid. If someone wants free art, then they can learn to do it themselves. Just like they can mow their own lawn.
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MYTHICSONOFGOD Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I was just being curious as I said I am not taking sides.
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bustermaximus Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012
What's better than a nice hobby? A nice hobby that sometimes pays for itself.
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thisismyboat Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Because art takes time and it's hard work. If I'm making something for someone else, it's taking time away that I could be using to draw the thousand and one ideas that I have. It's one thing for me to draw something for a friend because I feel like it, but for instance when I finished my self-portrait and showed it off I got a couple of friends asking me to do them one. I'm not going to invest another 15-20+ hours on a portrait for a friend because they asked me to. It was fun for me to create my own, but it's work when I'm doing it for other people, and I'd like to be paid as such.

Funnily enough, everyone wants your art until they have to pay for it. Then they're content to just look at it.

I've done a few doodles/sketches for friends, but only if I can bust them out in a few minutes tops. Usually these are jokes anyways and they're fun to do. The "Bikes!" bat in my gallery was a joke for a friend. He didn't ask me to do it, I just thought it'd be funny to make it for him. The full piece was that bat and a bike inside a laurel wreath. It took me probably half an hour to do, but it was fun for me so I didn't mind at all and I didn't charge him for it.

However, I've also had friends ask me for a few sketches. And then a few more sketches. And then another doodle. And then just one more sketch. These are all five minutes, but after the eighth one it's no longer fun and I'm clearly being used. Sometimes they don't realize they're doing this, but it doesn't mean that I'm wrong to expect payment for it.

TL; DR: If you're a good friend and it's a silly idea that will be fun/quick for me to draw? Sure. If you're a friend who wants something for your own purposes because you never learned to draw? Pay me.
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triunfo84 Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012   Traditional Artist
Agreeing with this. If I enjoy doing it, if it's fun, if I'm returning a favor or something like that, then it's not a problem for me to do the art. But if it's "work" for me and not something I'd ordinarily do, then pay me!

If I had a friend who was handy with household repairs and I had some small thing that needed to be fixed and they could do it in two minutes, maybe they'd do it, for friendship's sake. But if it was a big, messy, time-consuming job, why should I expect them to do it for me for free? It's abusing the friendship to assume that they will. There's not much difference between that, and friends asking for free art just because you can draw and they can't.
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MYTHICSONOFGOD Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
sorr if I sounded as judgemental, you made great points thanks for sharing your opinion.
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shininginthedarkness Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012
Well, it doesn't make EVERYONE very happy, and I don't think it's wrong of them to feel that way. Some people like drawing what they want to draw when they want to draw it. And I don't know how I'm supposed to 'show the inners of my soul' when what I'm drawing was what someone ELSE wanted, and not something I came up with.

And once people figure out you draw for free, many of them will impose on you, asking you to draw stuff you really don't feel like drawing. If you charge nothing, people think it's worthless but keep asking for it anyway.

So do what you want to do, but try to understand when others don't feel the same way. It doesn't mean they're greedy or they don't really enjoy art. It just means they want to be free to follow their own muse.
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MYTHICSONOFGOD Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I am not saying it is wrong to charge or that they are greedy of course, I am just being curious.

I am hardly worthy of being anyone's judge, thank your for sharing your opinion.
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