So you clearly ARE trying to be controversial. However, this statement is a completely moot point. It all depends on what you're doing. If its just general graphic design, do you really need technique, probably not. If you're doing something like trying to learn to oil paint real life or trying to create a comic with human characters, you better learn some technique or be ready to produce some god awful works of "art."
It would be best at this point if he deactivates. The only other thing that could happen is a ban since he's been posting threads under the wrong categories for a long time, but I think he knows how to get around that
Want to know something? Dropping out of school does not mean you're going to be brave and successful like all those older artists. It means you're stupid and too conceited to listen to anyone else's opinion. Style is important, but you have to KNOW what it is you're drawing before you decide to make it into your depiction. It's like driving: You know what it is, but you'll never know how to handle the road until you know what the tools are for and why they're there.
Understanding techniques will help you improve your own style, I just don't understand how you don't see this. Lets take for example watercolors, a very technical medium in the sense that it easy for things to go wrong. Learning techniques in watercolor like creating textures using salt, alcohol, rice, etc. can be used to greatly enhanced your own style. Also learning about wet on wet vs. wet on dry could give your style different flavors. I don't think your style will disappear just because you learned a technique to control the medium and this is mostly what they teach in art school; controlling the medium. Basic art classes focus on you drawing "academically" but that changes in more advance courses.
I would have stayed in school, learn about all mediums and techniques and then bend them to my will -_^.
Style and technique go hand in hand. You need some techniques that can benefit your style and vice-versa. Everyone has their own styles, rules, etc. that they make and break if it will improve their art. I do it if it helps improve with my drawing style. Everyone else already said what I wanted to say, me repeating that is like beating a dead horse.
As far as reading all the posts by the OP and all that, I'm not sure if this be troll, arrogance, stupid, or something else...
Art has no style. Style is what your eyes see. However, experincing is greater than learning. A person to assume they know eveyrthing about art is not rational, but to understnad art is to understand others art. Though you could accuse that a rational thought is irration for how far a rational thought can go to become irrational? Just like the fanatics of artist who view there ideas supprior to others. It is nothing more but a style with no style that people beleive is a style.
I think they're equally important; technical skills inform style. To entirely discount one from the process is just silly.
A lot of people here seem to think technical skill is simply an understanding of human anatomy...that's really only a part of it. Among other things, it's also an understanding of a medium. For example, my earliest inked drawings, both with physical media and digital media, are messy as all hell, but that had more to do with my technique than it did with my style. I didn't know how to handle ink. My handling of physical and digital ink, my technique with it, has improved over the years, and that makes my drawings better. The poor handling of ink, the ultra sloppy and slap-dash quality of my drawings, was never a part of my style, it was a sincere lack of technique and a lack of understanding of my chosen medium.
"I dropped out of art school like most great artists because it was draining my style."
I don't even understand that. The vast majority of the living, working artists I've met, most of them being far from conventional, went to and completed their formal art education, and many of them went on to post-graduate studies, as well. Like you, I dropped out of school (I was at a university studying art) after three years, but not because it was "draining my style", I was partying too much and ran out of money. I loved what school was doing for my style, for my work as a whole. I was making better work (better technically, and better stylistically) by small degrees every day. I still am, but I feel I still need to finish my schooling, and plan on returning as soon as I can to complete my degree.
The way I see it, you don't go to art school to make art, but to learn how to make art. The knowledge, skills and techniques gained in art education are tools used to make art.
It's a psychological theory actually, When I said "I blame the enviroment" is that people's behavior is affected by the environment. I mentioned black people becuase I think that society (the enviroment) does treat them different (but any person regardless of skin color would act the same) hence the reason you feel defensive towards my comment that is not racist at all.
Sorry but seeing at your attitude with others, I have no desire to speak with you further, if you don't understand that I analyzing a social problem and NOT a skin color issue.
illastratFeatured By OwnerDec 5, 2012Professional Traditional Artist
You are ig...no....rant. You study law, not psychology. As if we all grew up in ghettos somewhere eating pig feet and smoking crack. Thats like me saying you stink because you are mexican. Like i said, both of my parents are college grads. I dont know what "environment" you are speaking off.
Is relevant because the op mentioned his skin color as part of his pride and source of his behavior towards another user he mentioned that "black people were investing on him" among other coments related to skin color.
I am simply saying that black people may get harsh treatment on their environment/life like racism, therefore explaining some defensive behaviors I noticed on him and other people. Simply as that.
I am not blaming skin color but the treatment he might have had received for the defensivenes.
TLR I am not being racist.I am just worried on what causes such beahviour I have noticed with many others.
okay my mistake, i didn't notice that the OP mentioned his skin color.
although i'm a black person who actually hasn't dealt with any racist treatment, that just hasn't happened in my life. and there are many more like me. i dislike when non-blacks assume that most black people have been dealing with racism in their lives. but some black people do it too, they make it sound like we're all victims, and i dislike that. different black people have had different life experiences.
i'm not sure what any of this has to do with art though, i think this is off topic...
Oh...you. Is this the last art site that hasn't kicked you out of the community for being a jackass? For someone who 'sells so much', your work is impossible to find...anywhere. And you have an awful lot of time to burn being a whiny troll.