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How To Get Your Drawing Into The Computer With a Good Quality?

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IrmaZwart Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I think I'm not the only one with this problem;
when I finished a drawing, I make a picture of it and then I put that picture into my computer. But the quality is always not as good as when you see the drawing for real...

Do any of you know how to solve the problem??

I tried scanning in the computer, but that's a bad quality too...

Maybe it has something to do with the light or the pixels or something... ???
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nervene Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012
Definitely use a scanner. Scan at a high DPI, 800 or more if your scanner supports it - it will be huge but you can zoom out while you're working on it ( Ctrl and - or Ctrl and = ). Once you've scanned it in, bring it into Photoshop (I will be referring to full version Photoshop, but if you have PS Elements it might have these functions too).

If you're scanning a black and white image you may want to start with Image -> Adjustments -> Desaturate. This will remove all color information if you have a hue to the paper itself that you don't want.

Then the real improvement (also for colored pictures) will be in Layer -> New Adjustment Layer -> Curves. Click OK when it asks for a name of the layer. Here you'll have what starts off as a diagonal line going up a box. Clicking on the line will add anchor points - moving these points will either pull a range of tones closer to black or closer to white, depending on if you move it up or down. You can also grab the very ends of the line that are already there, to adjust the full scale of the tones. If you pull the top end up more, you can remove any shade the paper has completely, so that the paper is perfectly white instead of grey, and you can darken your penciling by pulling the bottom half down more, so that the lines are closer to black than to a light grey.

Play around with it, but try not to go too extreme because you will be losing intermediate shading the more you crush the tones (less shades of grey between white and black). Like anything, you must determine how far is too much.

Because this is an 'adjustment layer', it will show up as a layer; you can turn the layer off and the adjustments will disappear, or you can double-click the little circle that looks like a pokeball to open the curve box back up. This is called non-destructive editing because you can remove or edit your changes without permanently changing the pixels of your original picture. You can always go back and fix mistakes that you make with adjustment layers. Any layers below adjustment layers will receive the adjustments (unless there is a mask, but that is a different lesson!).

Now, if you have a huge picture because you scanned at very high DPI, go to File -> Save for Web and Devices. Here you'll see settings to shrink the picture down before you export to a new JPG. Adjust the percentage size under 'Image Size' until it looks like the size you want to post online. Because your picture is being shrunken, it will get much sharper and look much more clean than if you'd only scanned it at the size you wanted. When working with fine art it is almost always better to work with a big picture and shrink it than to work with the same size you will post it at.

By using File -> Save for Web and Devices, you export a new JPG at a smaller size, but you keep your original file - you didn't permanently shrink the one you were working on in Photoshop. You can save a PSD with this original file, which keeps all of your adjustment layers, so that you can go back and re-adjust your picture if you decide the one you exported was bad; you never lost data.

Hope this is useful!
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IrmaZwart Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Wow, that's some good information, and a lot :O
Thank you very much, this absolutely will be helpful :D
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MrBonecracker Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
THIS will help me sooo much!
Thank you!!
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Byakuya1619 Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
I always use scenner. If it doesn't work good enough for you then change the settings or the style (like document, image, photograph etc.) Hope I helped.
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IrmaZwart Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ok, I'll try it :D
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Kevari Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Make sure your scanner is closed. I have to scan the same pic four times occasionally because I forget to close the lid.
Scan at a high DPI. Make sure it doesn't scan as a jpg
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IrmaZwart Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
yeah, it's good to close it indeed ;P
Most of the times I close my scanner, unless my drawing(book) is larger then the scanner :)
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GraveyardBat Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012


I scanned these pics. They looked horrible after scanning, but after some touching up on paint.net they looked decent/presentable and looked more like the one RL.

And don't worry I know ur pain I used to get really fustrated with editing pics after the scanner ruined them but I got better at it over time. :) If you need more details/help feel free to note me.
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IrmaZwart Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Wow this really looks good indeed :)
Maybe that site could be even more useful than photoshop, in this case... :O
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Haunted-Giraffe Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Its a program, just the name makes it sound like a site ^^
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IrmaZwart Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh oops.. :blushes:
Haha :P
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CinderBlockStudios Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
1. Photo
2. Scan
3. MAGIC!!!
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IrmaZwart Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'll try the third option :nod:
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Kizziesama Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
I scan all of my traditional works at about 300dpi (at least). And I scan the image in pieces, in case a section doesn't look bright enough or it looks blurry. For the most part, it works out well enough for me since I don't have a scanner large enough. It never turns out perfect, so you do the best that you can :nod:
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IrmaZwart Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ok, it sounds like that will be a lot better then what I've got now. I shall try that, thank you :D
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Parabuteo78 Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I always have difficulty after scanning to get the art on the screen to match with the original. It takes some editing in PS, this tutorial helped a lot;

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treegarchie Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
THis tutorial is brilliant (I have the same problem with scanning and now I can't blame my scanner anymore :D )
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IrmaZwart Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That's quite useful, thanks ;D
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GraveyardBat Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012
Hey if you don't have photoshop try paint.net it has layers and options similar in the -adjustment- menu. So just Scan, crop, and paint.net or photoshop.
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IrmaZwart Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thanks for the advice :D
But I do have photoshop, I was just wandering if there was a way to get somehow my artwork in the computer nicely without using programs.
But thanks though ;)
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GraveyardBat Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
Well the title of your thread is asking how to get better quality, and photo editing equals better quality, as well as scanning at 600 dpi. In the end it's not the scanner that's at fault it's the editing that comes after. Almost every traditional media piece you'll find online has been edited some way or form to bring back it's quality. I've had someone who would be convinced that my scanner was uber good when it wasn't the scanner at all it was my photoshopping lol..
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IrmaZwart Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thanks for the advice.
So actually it all depends on the photoshop :D
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GraveyardBat Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
yeh but jst remember a decent scannner doesn't hurt
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IrmaZwart Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
ok :)
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IncandescentInsanity Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student General Artist
I think my scanner does a pretty good job. But it will always make the drawing look funky in some way
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IrmaZwart Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hmm, yes I saw your deviations in your gallery, and it all looks like a good quality!! (Btw great drawings you make)
What kind of scanner do you have?
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IncandescentInsanity Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Student General Artist
Thanks!

This is my scanner [link]

I didn't have to pay for it. My parents bought it
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IrmaZwart Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hmm seems pretty good, very different from the one I have...
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jzr171 Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
The thing I had to do for school, is after you scan it, we had to go in photoshop and adjust the levels. That usually made it look much better.
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IrmaZwart Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah that's what I do to sometimes, but still, I hoped there might be an other way :p
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jzr171 Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Student Filmographer
Not without magical powers :P
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IrmaZwart Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hmm, yeah, I think you're right..
Do you know anyone with magical powers who could help me out?? :P
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jzr171 Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Student Filmographer
I wish I did. I could use some magic right about now...
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:iconirmazwart:
IrmaZwart Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah.. met too...
For what? :P
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jzr171 Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Student Filmographer
I need money. And a few other things that are hard to explain.
However if I could just fly I'd be good with that :)
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IrmaZwart Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ah, money, the usual problem :P
I rather have magic then money haha ;P
But well, good luck then with solving the other hard-to-explain-things ;)
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nelchee Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
1. Your work will NEVER look as good on the computer as it does in real life, so get used to that.
2. Better scanner = better quality. Also, fiddle with your scanner settings, if you leave everything to "Auto" you can't expect a good result, you have to see for yourself what works best.
3. It's possible to get good photos of your work even with a cheap camera (not phone), but you have to use a tripod and shoot it in the daylight.
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IrmaZwart Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thanks for these advice.
Yeah I already guessed it would never be as good.
But would like to try to do it as good as posible ;)
I'll check out the tripod on my camera :D
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nelchee Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Professional General Artist
The downside of a camera is that the image won't be as sharp as it is when scanned (but colors are more accurate), and the downside of scanners is they can sometimes lose light tone ranges. My new scanner doesn't do that (it's a great scanner), but I still have to fight its automatic adjustments every time.

Tripod is a 3-legged thing you put your camera on :) If you don't have one, put it on anything, just don't hold it in your hands so you don't shake the camera.
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IrmaZwart Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hmm, yes I think you're right about that...
I should scan the same drawing and make also a photo of it, and then I'll see what is the best quality :)

Ahh that's I tripod! Yes I think we have such a thing, and I will use it maybe it helps :D
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weremole Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012   Digital Artist
Kind of. Scanning works exactly like photography by catching the photons that bounce off something. Scanners also has a light that it shines on and through your drawing which can blow out areas where the pigment crumbs are far between. There's also the case that real light and paper isn't intense white. When you scan something you can adjust it afterwards with software. Just changing the levels and such. You can try scanning in larger resolution as well.
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Tetchist Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
"Scanning works exactly like photography by catching the photons that bounce off something. "

that's really where the similarities between the two end, though.

scanning is to photography as a zoo is to the wild.
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weremole Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012   Digital Artist
Ofcourse! Scanning has to run it through a filter of gizmos to turn it into electrons and turn it into pixels and all sorts of junk. I just overwrote the explanation that 'shining a bright light on paper blows out parts with not enough stuff on it'.

Thank you!
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Tetchist Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
"Scanning has to run it through a filter of gizmos to turn it into electrons and turn it into pixels and all sorts of junk."

and what do you think a digital sensor does?

my point was that scanning and photography are so far removed from one another in terms of artwork reproduction that they really shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath, aside from being 'options'. there is a whole mess of issues to contend with when using a camera that don't exist when you're scanning.
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weremole Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012   Digital Artist
I agree with you. It was worded all weirdly. I'm alright with being wrong if I can correct it. Thank you.
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Tetchist Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
are you, though?
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:iconweremole:
weremole Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012   Digital Artist
Wrong? I assumed.
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Tetchist Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
no, the other thing!
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IrmaZwart Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
So, I should better scan my drawings instead of make a photo of them ;)
I'll try :D
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weremole Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012   Digital Artist
Do however you want as long as it comes out nice enough for you. Before scanners they photographed everything and before that they had wood cuts and etchings.
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