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Drawing with your elbow, not your wrist?

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xJessie-chan Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
From the FZD school of design's channel on YouTube, I learned a tip while drawing to practice drawing with your elbow not your wrists. How long does it take to accomplish this? How long did it take for you?


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David-McCamant Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I'm not sure what is meant by drawing from the elbow, I've found it's really drawing from the shoulder mostly. When I teach, we start with the shoulder for gestures and blocking. Then as you get more detailed you use your elbow more then your wrist and fingers (still employing the shoulder). Some of the best use this technique. Search on the web for Mark Westermoe for the final detail techniques; I think you'll enjoy his work.

David
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xJessie-chan Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, would, after teaching to draw from the shoulder, help you draw from the elbow then wrist easier? And will do, thanks for answering
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Tetchist Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
drawing from the elbow is not for everyone. I draw exclusively "from the wrist" and I turned out just fine. one of my professors years back remarked that I was just "one of those people who can make it work for them"

it's all up to the individual.
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xJessie-chan Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Ahh, a new tip. Thanks for responding
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Professional General Artist
How long it takes just depends on how quickly/easily you personally pick it up. There's no set time frame for this stuff, honestly. I couldn't tell you how long it took me exactly. I'm pretty sure I picked up the technique my first year in art school. As already mentioned, it's easier to do if you're working larger. Not something I focus on doing small sketches or detail work on a larger piece. But doing a gesture drawing on an 18x24 sheet, it's definitely the way to go.
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xJessie-chan Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, ok I'm still learning there isn't a time frame for learning art in general, if you don't mind me asking what did you study in art school? I'm in my first year of high school and I'm already thinking about applying to art colleges and stuff. And what is gesture drawing???
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Professional General Artist
Well, you're way ahead of me when I was a freshman in high school. :lol:

I majored in printmaking in art school, but my school had a first year foundation program, so you didn't start your studio program until 2nd year. Foundation programs differ in structure from school to school, but they typically include some kind of life drawing component. And that was the main focus of my 1st semester for the first month or so. I also took a figure drawing workshop my 2nd semester. I was also required to take a certain number of credit hours of drawing classes for my studio program.

A gesture drawing is a very quick drawing, usually under 2 minutes, where you just focus on the pose or gesture of the figure. They're often used as an exercise to loosen your up, and it's easier to loosen up when you use your whole arm, rather than working from the wrist. How you hold your tool also makes a difference.
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xJessie-chan Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow, sounds like a ton of work and dedication. And difficult at the same time if you're just starting out O_O Thanks for the thorough explanation, I really appreciate it
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pauscorpi Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012
Well, with me it was a bit weird - when I was yonger, I could not fathom how you can draw from your elbow, but then I was not iterested in art anyway. Once I decided to do art, I kind of got the hand of a few things at the same time alsmost right away. I don't know how to described - some combination of being really focused bout the task at hand and it just 'clicking' in how you think about it. But yes, practise makes perfect. Just think you have to get it done.
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xJessie-chan Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow that's great! When did you start drawing?Thanks for responding and for the helpful advice
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Mew-Sumomo Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student General Artist
The only times when I don't use my wrist and only use my elbows are if I'm drawing or cutting precise shapes. Or if I'm just working very large.
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xJessie-chan Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Larger works? Like what?
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Mew-Sumomo Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Student General Artist
Like, anything 24x36" or larger that requires a lot of large shapes/lines/strokes.
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xJessie-chan Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow, that's very large. Thanks for replying!
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african-artist Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I've gotten really used to using my elbow. It helps distribute line weight properly and prevents you from getting carpal tunnel.
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xJessie-chan Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
What's carpal tunnel? I forget...and thanks for responding.
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african-artist Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
the nerves in your wrist start straining too much. that's about it lol
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xJessie-chan Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Ooh ok, thanks for answering :)
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african-artist Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
You're welcome!
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xJessie-chan Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
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TakemaKei Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
its a condition on your wrist. I dont know the specifics but it requires a surgery. So.. not a good thing at all.
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xJessie-chan Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
For some otherworldly reason I thought it had to do with lack of oral hygiene O_o boy was I off.. Thanks for answering!
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TheNecco Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student General Artist
Practice makes perfect. Working with your elbow prevents you from planting your palm on the paper and smudging your drawing
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xJessie-chan Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I do that now, I always thought it was a lefty thing for some reason. Thanks for responding
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opiumtraum Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
Drawing with your elbow works fine when you're working fairly large...but if you're working on a small scale, you'll have to scale your movements down. Ultimately, you'll do what you need to to pass in school- then you'll get out of school & unlearn a bunch of stuff that never suited you to begin with.
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xJessie-chan Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I guess that goes for all types of schooling. Thanks for responding ^.^
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CinderBlockStudios Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
How long? It takes as long as you can manage to consciously move your arm verses your wrist. Come to think of it I don't "draw with my elbow" all that much anyway, I use my fingers.
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xJessie-chan Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
He (Feng Zhu) said it was good for drawing straight lines..? Idk... I'll work at it. Thanks for responding
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CinderBlockStudios Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
hrm...(*grabs pencil and does normal thing)...holy crap I do use it for that!
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xJessie-chan Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yay! You draw like that without your knowing? Nice :)
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ArtofJefferyHebert Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Not long, drawing will look like trud for a few tries but muscle memory kicks in and things smooth out.
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xJessie-chan Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
^.^ thanks for responding
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