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clutch pencil vs mechanical?

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vAmPiBaT Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
which is better and give reasons please

ive only used mechanical but i find them too thick
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Hurricanrana Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2011
I'm with everybody else who uses .5 lead. I use Pentel twist-erase pencils ([link]) and they're perfect for my needs.
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DoubleDown009 Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
i like regular pencils more. although, i use pencils ranging from 5h to 5b, so i can get as detailed or dark or light as i need. plus, the tips stay sharp for a good amount of time.
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Miskui Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2011  Student Filmographer
I go to art school for computer animation and mechanical pencils are outlawed.
Mechanical pencils - when sketching - make the drawing look stiff because the line is constant throughout the entire image. This makes it appear flat. My Traditional Animation teacher took my mechanical pencil out of my hand laughing and said, "Oh no, not this. No - you can't do THAT!"

Even though you have to keep sharpening a regular pencil, the line quality is outstandingly better. There's more flow. So although mechanical pencils are nice, unsharpenable, and smooth and constant - comparing my drawings of mechanical and wooden pencils side by side - mechanical pencils will never capture movement as a old-fashioned wooden one. But if you're doing finishing detail at the very end and need to get into hard to reach areas - a mechanical pencil will work.
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egypturnash Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
Mechanical pencils are too thick? What, do you draw on postage-stamp sized images with a magnifying glass? Loosen up and draw bigger, grab a wooden pencil and address the paper with the side of the point instead of the tip, get your whole arm into it. Unless you like the idea of future you having carpal tunnel issues, in which case go get yourself a #000 Rapidiograph pen and go wild.

Me, I carry a mechanical pencil in my kit for when I want to do little doodles, but I won't go smaller than a .5mm. I used to have a clutch pencil in a drafting kit I inherited from my father, and it was interesting but it was a lot less convenient than a mechanical - you gotta carry around the crazy sharpener, which gets filled with super-fine graphite dust that can make a ginormous mess.
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Debit Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I have been using 0.5 and 0.7mm mechanical pencils for quite some time. I use them for work, school, and drawing. In case of drawing, I use them only to make light outlines which will be coverd with either ink or paint later on. I like using them mainly due to convenience -- I can use them for just about everything plus they do not require pencil sharpner.
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135711cal Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2011
I will use either, but I prefer mechanical. I like the 0.7 anything finer and I break it.
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narutokunobessed Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2011  Student General Artist
Wow Ive acatually never heard of clutch pencils. Although it looks just about the same as a wodden pencil pretty much. Its looks pretty classier though.

ive only used mechanical but i find them too thick
Then you been using the wrong lead sizes or pressing too hard, cause there are many sizes of mechanical. What my friend does to make it even pointier, she gets another piece of paper and rubs it on paper to make it a slant on top.
Kind of like this pic only pointier. See the slant and the top? That is the point you want to make, but a little sharper then that.
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african-artist Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
I love wooden pencils. With a passion. They just feel more natural and comfortable in my hand, and you can see your uh... usage by the way they go down? I don't know, I think it's a measure of pride when I use up a particular pencil and have to start with a new one.
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Griffingirl Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2011
I use a mixture of both.It just what I have at the time. If I find a good brand of wooden pencil I use it like crazy. I find their lines easier to erase. I am still unsure what I feel is better.
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Kevari Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
.5 mechanical because I get really annoyed really fast by pencils. I HATE sharpening them, especially the ones that break all the time.
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PhantasmaStriker Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2011
I use a 0.5 mechanical pencil.
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vAmPiBaT Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i think ill have to look for a 0.2 i can only get .7
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Mystic-Serat Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2011   Artist
What you use that give you thick lines? Do you use a 0.7 or 0.9mm?

I like both equally though I work with my mechanical pencil more than my clutch pencils because I hate resharpening if I want fine, crisp lines. And the clean up, oh the clean up (pencil shavings). So far, I keep my clutch pencils handy for shading or layouts. My mechanical pencils are there if I feel lazy and not to pencil dance to get a picture done.

I'm loving my 0.5 and 0.3 mm pencils, I'll need more lead for the bastards soon.
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atlantisart4 Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2011   Traditional Artist
0.9 is totally going to give you thicker and blacker lead.
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Mystic-Serat Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2011   Artist
True, a friend of mine has one, I'm also think on picking up a few for myself. Most stores don't have much variety as far as the pencil lead goes.
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atlantisart4 Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2011   Traditional Artist
Michael's and Hobby Lobby have a great selection!
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Mystic-Serat Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2011   Artist
The Hobby Lobby I usually go to seems to be lacking in the leads ranging from the 5h-9h or from b-9b, I'll look into Michael's this time around.
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atlantisart4 Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2011   Traditional Artist
Yeah, a lot of my favorite art supplies come from there! They carry awesome brands!
Hobby Lobby?
In Minneapolis (where I live) they have a good selection, but maybe that varies with the kind of store you go to. Sorry about that one!
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Mystic-Serat Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2011   Artist
The one I go to has an excellent selection in sketchbooks, watercolor books, etc. drawing pencils, but it mostly has home accent stuff. The other store, Meiniger's has a broader selection of supplies, but I don't like catching the bus or driving there.
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atlantisart4 Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2011   Traditional Artist
You can always order online if you know exactly what you are looking for!
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SithDagger Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2011  Student Digital Artist
Mechanical Pencil = good for constant lines.
Personally I love my clutch pencil, it can get a very fine tip, it does wear down, but I carry my sharpener with it.
The reasons I like a clutch over traditional wooden are because the overall weight and the length of the pencil remain the same, I get most of the convenience of a mechanical pencil, but I get a thicker lead that I can do more with.
Its easier for me to shade with the side of a 2mm lead then a 0.5mm lead.
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Bunnylicious Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Mechanical pencil all the way. You don't need to deal with sharpening it and 0.5mm is lovely and very thin.
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xX-Aura-Xx Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2011
Yet the lead breaks like mad whenever I apply pressure. I prefer wooden pencils because of this.
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Bunnylicious Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
How hard are you pressing? That never happens to me unless I seriously overdo it.
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xX-Aura-Xx Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2011
I'm used to being a tad rough with my other pencils, but it just doesn't feel right if I'm barely touching the paper.
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2lazy2talk Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
this :thumbsup:
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2011  Professional General Artist
Mechanical too thick? Really? I don't know what kind you're using, but I use 0.5mmm, and it's pretty fine. They make leads down to 0.2mm.

Anyway, I have a clutch pencil that I inherited, but I haven't really had the chance to use it yet. The ones I've seen hold a thicker lead than mechanical pencils do. I more typically use wooden pencils in varying grades for roughs and sketching, then mechanical for finer lining and detail work. I have used the 0.5mm mechanical lead for shading small areas, and it works fairly well as long as the marks are light and tones are built gradually with lots of cross-hatching.
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vAmPiBaT Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
the thing is when you sharpen a regular pencil its much finer than a mechanical
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mare-of-night Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2011
You can get the mechanical lead to come to a point, too. Scribble on some scrap paper while holding the pencil at an angle, and the lead gets more worn on one side than the other, making the tip sharper.
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2011  Professional General Artist
OK, but a wooden pencil point eventually wears down and is more time-consuming and wasteful to sharpen.
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