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My digital art tips (photoshop) / AMA

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straightx Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Hope this will help some of you out there! Also my apologizes that these are photoshop specific.

I find that lots of digital artist struggle with muddy values when doing full renderings. I find that the biggest factor to this lies under shape dynamics. In some cases it's better to just turn it off but if you're like me and still want it on. Change the minimum diameter to something like 40%. This will help a lot with blending. Next many digital artist talk about how hard it is to sketch in photoshop. I found that turning off opacity jitter and leaving on flow jitter creates better sketches.

Now I might sound like a nobody but if anyone has any questions I'll be more than happy to answer them.
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CielBendall Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013   Digital Artist
I would also recommend ctrl+paint and the blog "Muddy colors" (Alongside people already mentioning IFX and CA.org.) These places are an amazing resource for digital painting.

You have to dig too, but youtube can provide some good results.
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brandongroce123 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013  Student Digital Artist
dammm Self-Epidemic why are u so angry? He's just offering his help, and you blown him up? He is just trying to be nice and help, regardless of his experience he has something to offer people that don't know anything. Your just honestly being rude.
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Matsuemon Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013
The answer, I'm afraid, is simple. Self-Epidemic is an angry, insecure, immature child who must drag others down to make herself feel better. Probably also loves the attention, which is why she keeps flaming forums like this. Bad attention is better than no attention. Obviously doesn't like herself much so can't stand seeing others not miserable. And the real funny part?? She has a donation button on her page!! WOW. We need to stop responding to this thread so she can go attack someone else.
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FriendlyHand Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
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phoenixleo Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013
I may not know a lot of shape dynamics, since I don't have a tablet to see how it actually works but even if it is set to a low number, I see no reason how it affects anything to have muddy colours. Some could be intentionally using a 'muddy' palette and while it might feel like it's toned down, it will have a different look and feel to it and might as well be striking in the way it is seen related to other colours and have some bright colours as focal point. And when I did sketch or flesh out anything in photoshop without using any scans, a normal round brush or any other brush does it well to get the basics in. There's no need to even try out any opacity jitters.
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kaber13 Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I've been working in photoshop for about 10 years. DIgital painting for about 6 years. I'm fairly knowledgable but I still have a long way to go in regards to painting. Especially since I've had no formal training. I constantly push to learn and hone my craft by searching out tutorials online and studying others work. I offer advice when asked and critique when I can. I direct to other forums like CA.org, pixlebrush and imaginefx.com so others can learn from the masters as well.

I appreciate your enthusiasem and one can learn much from critiquing others works but do not think you are yet worthy of teaching others a better way. There are many different styles and ways of working and while some are better than others there is still more than one way.

That said your instruction is vauge. You talk of muddy values. Shape dynamics has little to do with values. Opacity might but values are not a function of photoshop but of basic painting education. Others explain it so much better than I. See [link] for instance.
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Ageen Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Wow, I see some strong reactions here.
I think it's acctually good that you're exploring program's options and sharing what suits you. I feel like sometimes even the very best and in all ways great deviants forget that the site is for everybody.
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Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Perhaps you should see it from a beginners point of view, you come in here asking for help, he says sure! Then he tells you to use the smudge tool, instead of sitting them down ( not literally, ofc ) and explaining light, reflective light, depth, form, shape, anatomy, without those key elements, all he is doing is teaching them a bad technique, That is bad. It is NOT a good thing to show a beginner.

If he actually wanted to help, he could go into the thumbshare and say "do any of you want a critique". Much better, this, is ignorant and self righteous.
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Ageen Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I can tell how this is wrong in a way, but I am a fan of expresing an opinion in a way that leaves no one offended in any way.

No he knows there was another way to do things :)
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Tetchist Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
"I am a fan of expresing an opinion in a way that leaves no one offended in any way."

lol
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Ageen Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Did you feel offended by any thing I have said?
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Tetchist Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
oh boy, this again.
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Holly-Mellor Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Hey there, it's nice that you have good intentions to help to people who may not be at the same level as you. However, people can take this the wrong way and even highly skilled individuals can be criticised for trying to give help. Although the person may have had a point, there is no class in being so outwardly aggressive towards others and is uncalled for. I've seen it many times from the same individual so I wouldn't take it to heart, I suppose it's just part of her personality (what an ugly trait to have huh?).

If you want to help people post on threads they make in the digital art forum and help people directly who ask for it.
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straightx Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Yeah I'll be doing that in the future x]
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Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Talk to me, if you have an issue.

Also have you seen their work? Their ability is lacking, they have a self righteous attitude of OMG I'M AMAZING AT PHOTOSHOP!! My problem is, all he will succeed in doing is teaching people the WRONG techniques. There are professionals out there. He is not one, and should not be trying to tell people what to do until he can blend, shade, form, create anatomy and depth himself. He'll never actually be able to help.
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Holly-Mellor Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I don't believe his manner came across self righteous, he has good intentions. However, yes you do have a point and perhaps the skill level isn't there just yet. That doesn't give you a one way ticket to complete bitch.

Quite ironically, it's YOU that is self righteous. Speaking to people so aggressively and arrogantly..perhaps you should look self-righteous up in the dictionary because your actions define it perfectly.
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WindHydra Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
LOL teh ironing of self righteousness! Who's more self righteous, someone who offer help, or someone who highjack others' threads (multiple times) to "help" newbs from being given wrong information?
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Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
You amuse me <:

Who said I was a bitch, because I said he wasn't good enough, he was the one who over reacted.
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Holly-Mellor Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I wish I could say the same about your posts, but they are everything but amusing. The point is, there is no class or professionalism scouring the forums looking for people to belittle. Your aggressiveness infers you do this only to draw attention to yourself and not for a more noble reason. At your age I would of imagined parental teachings such as humility and respect should of long been engrained...obviously not.
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Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
So I should act the way YOU deem appropriate, I'm sorry I didn't kiss his ass and tell him he is wonderful. If you don't like me, fucking block me. Like I care.
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Holly-Mellor Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Not how I deem appropriately, no. More like what is generally accepted as a good way to treat other people. Remember that saying, treat others how you want to be treated? It's okay though, don't worry! There is plenty of time to learn how to speak to people properly, most of the time that learning is when your 10 years old but you obviously need a little longer.
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straightx Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Yeah that sums up my thoughts lol.
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Tetchist Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
how long have you been using photoshop?
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straightx Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Student Digital Artist
10 years strong! I was brought into photoshop from my uncle and he taught me the basics. I started using photoshop for art about 6 years ago.
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Tetchist Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I think you may not be qualified to make this kind of thread.
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Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
So why on earth do you not know how to paint yet?
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AnaDalle Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
ok, you paint decently, but in terms of social skills you don't have fu***ng manners. So many years living in this world and still not know how to socialize like a normal person?...
bleh, stinks.
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Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Awh thats nice dear :)
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AnaDalle Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
yep, not like you :heart: u need better sex dear :jackdirt:
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Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
You should stop jumping on the band wagon, I don't give a shit if you think I'm nice or not, why would I care if you agree or not, no skin of my back.
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AnaDalle Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
hoo hoo, seems that someone struck a chord! sorry dear, go find someone experienced, but with that attitude is going to be difficult to find a partner...
good luck!
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Tetchist Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
why are you being a such a dick? you're not so hot yourself, so this whole business of abusing the crap out of this guy and trying to jack his thread is just disgusting.

quit being so damn petty and make your own thread for other people to insult you on.
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Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I'm being a dick because he needs a slap in the face, thinking he is all it is obnoxious.
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Tetchist Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS FAR MORE OBNOXIOUS, PETTY, AND ARROGANT.

so chill out.
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Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah okay, hypocrite :P
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Tetchist Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
haha
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Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Why would you assume you are even good enough to do an "ask me anything". I don't think you are, btw.
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Matsuemon Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
We are all here to learn from each other and share. I always listen to advice of other artists, even if they aren't "at my level" because they may know one or two tips that I don't know, which can help me out. If you don't agree with how this person presented the offer, there are many more mature, considerate, diplomatic ways of letting them know. Your way is just malicious and makes you sound childish and nasty.
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Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Boo hoo.
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straightx Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I have a pretty vast knowledge of photoshop and I just want to help people out any way I can.
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Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
You shouldn't, you still make mistakes, and you can pass on those mistakes. Guide them to professionals. You aren't going to help them.
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Tetchist Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
professionals still make mistakes, of course.

though they're paid to make less :la:
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Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Mistakes, maybe, but they do understand anatomy, form, colour, depth, so when they do fuck up, they know -why-.
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Tetchist Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
that's the theory, anyway.
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Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
They wouldn't be professional if they couldn't. Anyway, this guy doesn't even know how to blend.
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Tetchist Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
plenty of crappy pros out there. just sayin'.
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straightx Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Every artist makes mistakes even professionals. Sometimes all it takes to solve a problem is a second pair of eyes.
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Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
but you aren't asking to critique, you are saying LOOK AT ME, I KNOW PHOTOSHOP AMAZINGLY WELL.

I've been using photoshop since I was 14, 8 years almost now. I still wouldn't do what you are.
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operaghost Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013  Professional
And I've been using PS since 1997 - and I do plenty of mistakes. And if you look PS magazines and their guildse - even their magazines (i.e. [link] ) do not have all in-all perfect images and yet they are supposed to be pinnacle of PS - savvy people. But regardles sof skill, payroll and so on - art is very subjective matter and it is pointless to argue about rights and wrongs of ones skills and programs etc.
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straightx Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I'm curious as to why you are so butt hurt. All I'm doing is offering my help to anyone that wants it.
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