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Advice for hiding line art?

:iconknightfawkes:
KnightFawkes Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I learn best by seeing, so reading helps me very little, but here we go. I start off with basic line art, try doing some detail work, and then end up semi-disgusted with what up looking at because I'm left with these thick black lines cutting through my work. It looks very cartoon-ish. The paintings I've watched on youtube usually just speed through the covering up part, or just don't cover it up. I don't bother weighting my lines anymore either, since I'm going to see them at any rate. I'm using SAI. Please and thank you.
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:iconmercury-crowe:
Mercury-Crowe Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Professional Artisan Crafter
You don't cover them up.

You make new layers.

Then you delete the layer with the lines.

Open a new file. Go to Layer>new layer

This gives you a transparent layer you can draw on without disturbing the layer underneath.

You can adjust the opacity to make it lighter, then make a NEW layer to 'ink' on and delete or hide the layer underneath.

To color lineart, make a new layer below the current one.
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achipps Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Learn to do other things with your lines so you can get rid of them. Right now you use them to divide sections of you art so it shows shapes.

On a side with shadows it is fine for the lines to be black, because that side is shaded anyway. When there is a side light only hitting on side of the shape it is better if it is the color of that light. If you take out lines then you need to replace them with light and shaded areas.

It looks like your art is heading away from lines, so at some time you might want to start drawing silhouettes and drawing details or draw details until they show you where the edges are. Both ways work, but the second way would be quicker.
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Tales-of-Haven Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013
put them on a separate layer in the beginning, then just delete the layer when you're done.
SAI does have layers, yes?
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:iconrobertthem:
Robertthem Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Student Digital Artist
You can color them with the local color, and if you can still see the lines you can try to blend the edges.
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:iconknightfawkes:
KnightFawkes Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Local as in, with the base/flat layer?
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Robertthem Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Student Digital Artist
The "local color" would be the color next to the line. Sorry, I don't know how to word it in a more understandable way.
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:iconknightfawkes:
KnightFawkes Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Like taking the finished picture and essentially 'dragging' the color over to cover the line? Or would you do it before finishing? Sorry, I just don't know where this step should be in the process.
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:iconrobertthem:
Robertthem Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Exactly, this would be the last step.
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:iconknightfawkes:
KnightFawkes Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you bunches. :)
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:iconrobertthem:
Robertthem Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Student Digital Artist
No problem :D
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Jade-Abarai-Kat Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
you can try making you lines a different color other then black, for instance if you are coloring in skin make the base outline a darker shade of the skintone you are using
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KnightFawkes Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks, but wouldn't it still look like the original line art? I want to hide it as much as I can, almost to the point where it looks like I used none, or can you not do that with SAI's tools?
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Jade-Abarai-Kat Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
it might be harder with Sai's tools, you could also change the opacity or just mov the colored layer on top of the line art layer
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:iconknightfawkes:
KnightFawkes Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Something about the way I'm coloring leaves gaps where the lines are. Most of the time I select areas to erase/color respectively, since I don't have a steady hand to get smooth edge, but it seems like no matter how I select, there's always things missing. Shading, highlights, occasionally the base color. This probably has more to do with me, as an artist, than the program, but there you go. :)
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Jade-Abarai-Kat Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
well if you have the line art about the layer you are coloring in you could just be coloring it in like a coloring book, staying in the lines. You might want to change the opacity of the actually lineart layer itself that way you can see through it
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:iconknightfawkes:
KnightFawkes Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you. :)
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:iconjade-abarai-kat:
Jade-Abarai-Kat Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
your welcome and good luck
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shininginthedarkness Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013
Put the lines on a different layer?
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:iconknightfawkes:
KnightFawkes Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
they start on a different layer, but my problem is, when I'm coloring, the area 'under' the lines, stays blank. So I can't just remove them. Is there a way to blend them in that I'm missing?
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