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Digital drawing/painting programs...don't want to spend an arm & a leg.

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SwtJennJennD Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Professional General Artist
I am fairly new to digital creating, and have used Photoshop in the past for photo finishing.
That being said- I am looking for a good digital drawing/painting program for my mac...

I create most of my artwork on my iPad with Procreate, but still love creating using my wacom. I bought Sketchbook pro and am totally unhappy with it.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

I have looked at the prices of some of these and couldn't believe how expensive they are. I know you get what you pay for, but I'm just a hobbyist.
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Matsuemon Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013
Hey Jenn,
Photoshop Elements is a good choice, especially if you've already had experience with the full version. GIMP is also very good, and FREE! They just did a huge update recently, so it's worth checking out. If you don't need any of the filters and photo-editing tools, and have used traditional media before, then Corel Painter is great. But it's a bit expensive, of course, unless you get it cheaper on Ebay or Amazon, which I did. As someone else mentioned, Manga Studio is very good, but if you don't need any vector drawing tools or the comic tools, it made not be right for you.
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Pichoochoo Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You can download Paint Tool SAI -->[link]
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SwtJennJennD Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Professional General Artist
Thanks. I'll try it out.
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jornas Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Try looking into manga studio 5.
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achipps Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
When ever you buy something make sure it has Photoshop.

I used ever version of Photoshop with demos and Limited Editions that came with other things like scanners, tablets, or computer software. The limited editions are the full versions, with a limited license, but even the full version only allows one user. So it is the same thing. Photoshop Elements does everything an artist needs, and there are a few things it don't do, but that don't effect an artist. I think Photoshop Elements is always under $100, but anything you can buy around $100 and get Photoshop Limited Edition is a real bargain.
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captianjames Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012
Autodesk sketch book is like 40 or 30 bucks depending on where u go.
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SwtJennJennD Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Professional General Artist
I used the free (lite) version of Sketchbook and liked it well enough- but once I started working with Procreate on my iPad, I realized how limited it is. Too bad I realized that after I bought the full version. For $30- it is ok; had Copic colors, but not my favorite I guess. I just wish I could get Procreate to play well with other programs- but that's another thread all together.
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captianjames Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012
hmmmm i see i think that it's all preference really and what you need im not crazy about autodesk sketch book i prefer using photoshop or just doing it by hand then using adobe illustrator to do vector inking. However, I'm really getting into doing 3d models and then taking them into photoshop or something and work off of that.
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Hai-Etlik Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012
Besides GIMP and MyPaint, you might want to take a look at Inkscape to round out your toolset with vector graphics.
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SwtJennJennD Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Professional General Artist
I'll check out Inkscape. Thanks.
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operaghost Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012
Most people using PS do not even use it's complex features, so any alternative - which many have been already mentioned would give you as good results. And the most common effects used (blends, glows etc) can be done also on the free programs or low budget programs. Photoshop is just one the most expensive, complex and known one.
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SwtJennJennD Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Professional General Artist
I think that can be said of most higher end programs.
Like I said- I used PS years ago in a digital photography class, solely to retouch and edit digital photos. I went on the PS website last night & got totally overwhelmed by the choices in packages. Even with the 'student/teacher' discounted package pricing, I can't believe how expensive the software is. If I decide to ever do PS, it will be well down the road.
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zomgmad Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Hobbyist
I highly recommend GIMP. It's free and open source. My viewpoint on GIMP is that it has/will have every feature other paid programs like Photoshop have, except you'll have to wait a little longer. A great trade-off in my opinion, since it doesn't cost anything.
I hear Paint Tool Sai is also good, and it's much cheaper than Photoshop (I believe Sai is only around forty dollars, but I may be wrong), but it only works on PCs, and I have a mac so I don't have firsthand experience.

If I were you, I would download some free programs, and possibly free trials of paid programs, and test them out. Figure out which one you like best, and if it's a paid program, try to find a free/cheaper program with similar features. For example, GIMP recently introduced a Smooth Stroke option, similar to Sai's Stabilizer. Best of luck!
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SwtJennJennD Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Professional General Artist
BEFORE the most recent GIMP update, I wouldn't have recommended GIMP to anyone. I found the use of the non-native terminal very aggravating, as well as the clumsy interface. Maybe it was because I was used to PS, but anyway- the new updated GIMP is MUCH better.

Our school's digital art teacher used to use GIMP, and dumped it because of the issues I mentioned. I am going to mention Mypaint and GIMP for her to use again.
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zomgmad Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Hobbyist
Yeah, GIMP is much better now. n__n
That's awesome that you have a digital art teacher. My school only has one digital art class, and we don't really learn any techniques, we just get simple project assignments that we have to complete in Photoshop. x__x It's good practice, I guess, but I'd really like to actually learn something instead of just using skills I've had for years.
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SwtJennJennD Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Professional General Artist
Well, I am the 'other' art teacher at our school. She just teaches one digital art class- it is more of a "here's a packet with instructions, do this project". The kids keep bugging me to teach a digital photography class, but I don't have room for it in my schedule. TBH, I've learned more using the internet and youtube than I did in my digital art class in college.

Seems to be the norm unfortunately.
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zomgmad Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Hobbyist
Oh, that's neat! :)
Yeah, I've definitely learned a lot from the internet. I'm a tutorial junkie. xD
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SwtJennJennD Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Professional General Artist
Thanks. I even use Youtube tutorials in the classroom.
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zomgmad Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Hobbyist
Neat! I'm not a big youtube fan, as video format just doesn't work well with my brain, but I'm sure your students enjoy that. My ceramics teacher used Youtube videos often last year.
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SwtJennJennD Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Professional General Artist
Thanks. AS long as it is a stand-alone program and not something that I have to be connected to the internet for- as this way I can use it when I'm not at a wifi place.
I've played around with new GIMP and like it.
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geekysideburns Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012   Digital Artist
First of all, what's your spending budget for a program?
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SwtJennJennD Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Professional General Artist
Well, I would LIKE to keep it under $100- as I am just doing this as a hobby and really could use the $ to upgrade my computer instead. I think I might have found a solution. I have been playing around with a trial version of Painter and think it might fit the bill.
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wezenbeesje Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012  Professional General Artist
Maybe you can search for oekaki. Those are online drawing boards and they have different free programs to choose from. But then you need to delete the old java if you have the new one.
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ImagoMouse Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
i use MyPaint, you can draw and paint in it and you have no size limit there so you can make huuuge paitings :) , and it's free
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SwtJennJennD Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Professional General Artist
Thanks. Is it online?
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ImagoMouse Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
yes :) you just have to download it <[link]>
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i-stamp Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012
If you have Photoshop, use it. It works great for drawing and painting. But if it doesn't fit your work flow, some other options are Gimp, Paint Tool SAI, Open Canvas for the low end of the spending range. Any Corel product will most likely be vastly cheaper than Adobe products as well, because Adobe is the industry standard.
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phoenixleo Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012
You can use photoshop for drawing and painting as well.  Or try Paint tool Sai or Corel Painter. 
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HeavenhairSixes Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I do fine with GIMP. Which is free.
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FranzNacion Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Photoshop should be fine.
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SwtJennJennD Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Professional General Artist
I've used photoshop in college, but don't have access to it now. I JUST downloaded the trial version of Painter Lite, and it seems to have promise. Thanks everyone.
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