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What's a good way to create lineart, going from pencil drawing to coloring in PS?

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squarenity Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
I want to create small pictures that looks something like these: [link].

I've got a pencildrawing

The question is: if I want to colour in the lineart digitally, what's a smart way to proceed? So far, I'm thinking of drawing in the lines with pens and then scanning it. But should I create vectors out of it, or just work with it in PS?

Any thoughts?
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MrFeline Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Student Digital Artist
If you have it Illustrator makes this really easy if a little time consuming. They way I like to do it is to cover the whole figure whatever in black with the pen tool making a silhouette, and then I use white to create the negative shapes inside. This method gives you tremendous control over your line width shape etc. The pieces you linked to look like they were done in Illustrator then sent over to photoshop for coloring, texturing, and cleaning up.
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puppy-dangerous Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
Lol you wanna know the super easy way?

Open it up, adjust the brightness and contrast as needed. Make it into a brush. Make a new file, stamp the lineart down.

Or use your 'color select' tool to select your lines, copy them, then paste onto a new layer.

Honestly, the best thing, and the way it will look best, is to do your rough on paper then scan it in and draw your finished work on a new layer.
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squarenity Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
Thanks for the wake up :) I agree, and I think that would be the way to go - if I wanted to stick to one size. I started to think about vectors because maybe I'd print the pictures in large formats later on. So I tried to figure out a way to be versatile while retaining some of the natural, hand-drawn expression in the drawings. Asking the question here has made me realize that I really need to decide what my goal is, in terms of finished products.

Anyway, thanks for taking the time to answer, and for keeping it simple.
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Rovanna Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012   Digital Artist
I just colour under the pencil sketch. Digital lineart is pretty, but I hate drawing it and I like the roughness of the pencil lines. :)
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ScribbleBees Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Lately, I've been going over sketches in pen, erasing the pencil beneath, scanning them, and adjusting the contrast for clean lines. Even if I had my tablet with me (which I currently don't), I'd probably still do it that way because then I can do my lines in the go, and I ink darkly enough and sketch cleanly enough that I don't usually have to do any major cleanup after scanning. Whatever suits you, though.
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squarenity Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
Yeah, I was kinda hoping not to have to do a lot of clean-up work... but in the end, it all comes down to what kind of expression I want in the picture, and that dictates what tools to use and how to apply them. But I think you make a good point any way: all the parts of the process are linked together, and doing the first steps well pays off later on. Some would call that a self-evident fact, but you don't really appreciate it until you've spent countless hours doing clean-up and do-overs.
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ScribbleBees Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Yeah, it's definitely something important to consider... though honestly, I'm just not one of those people who can pull gorgeous lines from a crazy-hectic sketch. If it's too messy, I get confused...
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squarenity Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
Hehe, I can relate to that. My photography teacher said that "if you take your time setting up the lights, camera and objects/persons properly, you don't have to spend hours in Photoshop later on cleaning up your mess." And I think the same applies to the process of sketching as well. Or maybe it gets better/easier when I reach a certain level of craftmansship, I dunno....
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CandyCadets Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
If you have Paint Tool SAI then I would really recommend using it.
I've only just started but the ability to create 'linework layers' s really handy. Plus you can paint under it and create layers just like photoshop! (:
Or you could alays use the pen tool in PS - similar effect.
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squarenity Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
I'm not familiar with Paint Tool, but I'll google it and check it out. Thx :) I'm a sucker for Photoshop though...
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CandyCadets Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah I only just started using it myself - but it has all the best qualities of illustrator and photoshop combined (:
And yeah I know right - I just got fed up with my lines not coming out clean enough (':
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MPsai Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012   Digital Artist
You could always use what you already have, just set the lineart to multiply and color under the layer.
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Naariel Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I would and I always do create a new layer with the lineart using the pen tool in photoshop.
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squarenity Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
Ok, but isn't that double the workload? The pen tool is a vector tool - it creates vector paths. Wouldn't it be easier to just "vectorize" the lineart in Illustrator?
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FriendlyHand Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I don't think it will vectorize very well in it's current state although it wouldn't hurt to try it and see.

Your best bets are probably (in no particular order):
1)create a new layer and use the pen tool
2)ink it manually and then scan it
3)if you have a digital tablet, make a new layer and use the brush or pencil tool to ink it.

you can still auto-vectorize it after any of those steps if you feel like it will improve the end result.
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squarenity Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
Thanks. Yeah, I agree that the automatic conversion, even if you tweak the settings as best you can, still end up being crude and "melted". I think I'm going for the manual inking, ---> scan ---> coloring. But you have given me a reality check here: maybe I should try to plan my next picture to be drawn with the Pen-tool instead of putting all the work into the manual inking...
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Naariel Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
>.>
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I don't have Illustrator. I only work in photoshop. I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THIS THING. Is there something that creates the lines for you?
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HMontes Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Professional General Artist
Yes, there are even stand alone programs that can vectorize drawings you have scanned in. The freeware Inkscape has a built-in vectorizing feature.
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Naariel Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Damn. so much time wasted.

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squarenity Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
*THIS GOES HERE: No, I don't think so Look below: the way that you are doing it, is a way of gaining control over the lineart instead of trusting the computer to do it. I think I was looking for a easy way out - but there isn't, I guess...
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squarenity Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
No, I don't think so :) Look below: the way that you are doing it, is a way of gaining control over the lineart instead of trusting the computer to do it. I think I was looking for a easy way out - but there isn't, I guess...
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FriendlyHand Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Hi,
The automatic vector features mentioned can be used with some success depending on the source image. Organic and stylized black and white art can work pretty well. Fonts come out a little wonky. Small, multicolored or blurry images may convert poorly. Crisp overlapping lines tend to melt and bend together. Manual vector work is usually superior. "Converted" vector art often ends up with unwanted squiggles and artifacts or over simplification, melting, or merging of the shapes.

examples: [link]
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